Topic: Why guys won't date single moms????
Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:28 AM


yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?
yours does visitiation?? neat... mine droped off the face of the earth.. and before thta his gf didnt want him seeing the kids so he didnt



ahh the truth comes out. hell hath no whineyness like a woman scorned

Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:28 AM

i just meant that condoms don't always work. sometimes that .01% kicks in during sex. now where in God's name did I put my "don't know anything about the world because I'm a stupid woman who has a child" hat at?


my kiddo was the result of a broken condom...never regretted it.

DeniseC86's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:29 AM





i think we are making this a men against women thing instead of a reality thing. it is sad that it is deteriorating into a name calling shout fest.





we have been free to name call this entire time???? damn I miss all the fun. Can't start now tho, people would try to judge me winking



you're just a single mom...ohhh snap..LMFAO



ouch! that hurt deep! i think i will go to my free check tree, pick a check, wash it off, and go drown my sorrows in a beer bottle. then rush off and have unprotected sex so I can get pregnant and grow another free check tree in my backyard. YAY!!! Dreams do come true! drinks rofl


hey mamma..can I borrow one of those free checks..I need to get my hair done..rofl



still waiting for my fairy godmother to come back from getting milk. she's been gone for almost 4 years now...should I be worried?

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:29 AM




nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.


Weekend visitation is the law.

Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:29 AM






i think we are making this a men against women thing instead of a reality thing. it is sad that it is deteriorating into a name calling shout fest.





we have been free to name call this entire time???? damn I miss all the fun. Can't start now tho, people would try to judge me winking



you're just a single mom...ohhh snap..LMFAO



ouch! that hurt deep! i think i will go to my free check tree, pick a check, wash it off, and go drown my sorrows in a beer bottle. then rush off and have unprotected sex so I can get pregnant and grow another free check tree in my backyard. YAY!!! Dreams do come true! drinks rofl


hey mamma..can I borrow one of those free checks..I need to get my hair done..rofl



still waiting for my fairy godmother to come back from getting milk. she's been gone for almost 4 years now...should I be worried?


only if she ran off with the guy who had the government cheese..

DeniseC86's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:30 AM


i just meant that condoms don't always work. sometimes that .01% kicks in during sex. now where in God's name did I put my "don't know anything about the world because I'm a stupid woman who has a child" hat at?


my kiddo was the result of a broken condom...never regretted it.



mine too, and again he's the BEST DAMN BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER!!!

izzie's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:30 AM
Edited by izzie on Tue 09/30/08 09:32 AM




nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!

Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:30 AM



i just meant that condoms don't always work. sometimes that .01% kicks in during sex. now where in God's name did I put my "don't know anything about the world because I'm a stupid woman who has a child" hat at?


my kiddo was the result of a broken condom...never regretted it.



mine too, and again he's the BEST DAMN BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER!!!


my kiddo shows me everyday why having her made me a better person!

izzie's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:31 AM



yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?
yours does visitiation?? neat... mine droped off the face of the earth.. and before thta his gf didnt want him seeing the kids so he didnt



ahh the truth comes out. hell hath no whineyness like a woman scorned
and yet.. i started out being nice in thisthread till you started putting people down...


*tina.. enjoying the show?? lol**

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:31 AM



yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?
yours does visitiation?? neat... mine droped off the face of the earth.. and before thta his gf didnt want him seeing the kids so he didnt



ahh the truth comes out. hell hath no whineyness like a woman scorned


She wasn't scorned as much as the children were hurt.

Keep talking. It's funny.

Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:32 AM




nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.


Hey Genious... child support and visitation are two seperate issues, you cannot keep a man from visitation if he doesn't pay child support.

and If you are having relations with a woman who would be so selfish to not allow HER child to see the father, then that was your mistake...

Luckily I don't have the issues that alot of women have with the fathers of their children, mine pays support and sticks to visitation for the most part, but he is the "fun time dad" I do all the work and he gets the adoring loving girl that he gets to take to all the fun places. Brings her home sick because he didn't know how to take care of her while in his care....


no photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:34 AM
I don't have kids. I made a deliberate and conscious decision, at age 21, that I would never be a parent. Everyone I have been involved with since that time is aware of this decision, and the vast majority of them have tried to get me to change my mind. That's one of the many reasons I am no longer with those people.

But my reality is that I know what's best for me. My being a parent would not be a good thing for anyone involved, regardless of how many people commit themselves to my ultimate "domestication." It's not going to happen.

This does not mean that I have anything at all against mothers, single or otherwise. Or fathers, either. I have friends who are parents. I like most of their kids.

But it's not the lifestyle for me.

Let's not make a bigger deal out of this than it really is. It's a choice, a preference, a decision. That's all.

And I'm not one of those guys who says "I just don't want to have to take care of another man's kids." It isn't even that -- I don't want to take care of anybody's kids, not even my own, were there hypothetically any in existence. And that's why there aren't any.

I just don't want that element in my life.

And I know this position limits the number of people I could get involved with -- but the people on the other side of that boundary are people I would never be happy with, anyway.

It has nothing to do with you, your effectiveness as a parent, your self-worth, your needs, your attitudes, your beliefs....it has to do with me knowing who I am and what works for me. And sometimes that doesn't always mesh well with other people's belief systems. And I'm OK with that.



Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:35 AM

I don't have kids. I made a deliberate and conscious decision, at age 21, that I would never be a parent. Everyone I have been involved with since that time is aware of this decision, and the vast majority of them have tried to get me to change my mind. That's one of the many reasons I am no longer with those people.

But my reality is that I know what's best for me. Being a parent would not be a good thing for anyone involved, regardless of how many people commit themselves to my ultimate "domestication." It's not going to happen.

This does not mean that I have anything at all against mothers, single or otherwise. Or fathers, either. I have friends who are parents. I like most of their kids.

But it's not the lifestyle for me.

Let's not make a bigger deal out of this than it really is. It's a choice, a preference, a decision. That's all.

And I'm not one of those guys who says "I just don't want to have to take care of another man's kids." It isn't even that -- I don't want to take care of anybody's kids, not even my own, were there hypothetically any in existence. And that's why there aren't any.

I just don't want that element in my life.

And I know this position limits the number of people I could get involved with -- but the people on the other side of that boundary are people I would never be happy with, anyway.

It has nothing to do with you, your effectiveness as a parent, your self-worth, your needs, your attitudes, your beliefs....it has to do with me knowing who I am and what works for me. And sometimes that doesn't always mesh well with other people's belief systems. And I'm OK with that.





it is always a great thing to stand by your beliefs.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:36 AM
Denise,

You're doing well for yourself.flowerforyou

Don't pay attention to the guys that are acting like fools on this thread.



Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:38 AM
But I thought that the guys on this thread are the voice of the males of the species..laugh

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:39 AM





nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!




You are making the critical error of passing your inability to learn to making it other people's mistakes.

1) You can only be brainwashed if you can't think for yourself.
2) Nobody forced you to drive 50 miles, 45 times. That is nobody's fault but your own. If he only met them 9 times out of 45 times, you should have learned after the first 5 drives what the pattern would be. If he really wanted to see the kids, he would have driving 50 miles to see them.
3) I don't sympathize for you if you stayed with him and allowed him to do all those things to you. If you are looking for sympathy, look somewhere else. You are all about responsibility, yet, when it comes to personal responsibility for yourself, you blow it off.
4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.

Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:39 AM
Ladies- why are we argueing with these men who are not single fathers? They have NO idea what sacrifices we make on an hourly basis.

There is a difference in saying "I chose to not have or be involved with someone with children" and when others say "You are damaged goods because you have children"

Let's not try teaching pigs to sing here, it will only upset us and irritate the pig.

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:40 AM

I don't have kids. I made a deliberate and conscious decision, at age 21, that I would never be a parent. Everyone I have been involved with since that time is aware of this decision, and the vast majority of them have tried to get me to change my mind. That's one of the many reasons I am no longer with those people.

But my reality is that I know what's best for me. My being a parent would not be a good thing for anyone involved, regardless of how many people commit themselves to my ultimate "domestication." It's not going to happen.

This does not mean that I have anything at all against mothers, single or otherwise. Or fathers, either. I have friends who are parents. I like most of their kids.

But it's not the lifestyle for me.

Let's not make a bigger deal out of this than it really is. It's a choice, a preference, a decision. That's all.

And I'm not one of those guys who says "I just don't want to have to take care of another man's kids." It isn't even that -- I don't want to take care of anybody's kids, not even my own, were there hypothetically any in existence. And that's why there aren't any.

I just don't want that element in my life.

And I know this position limits the number of people I could get involved with -- but the people on the other side of that boundary are people I would never be happy with, anyway.

It has nothing to do with you, your effectiveness as a parent, your self-worth, your needs, your attitudes, your beliefs....it has to do with me knowing who I am and what works for me. And sometimes that doesn't always mesh well with other people's belief systems. And I'm OK with that.





at the risk of bringing my bad vibes to your comment.

i absolutely agree with what you said and live my life the exact same way.

izzie's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:42 AM

4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.
i will leave the rest of what you said alone.. because i feel bad for your narrowmindedness..

but this one i will correct you on..

i didnt mean for you to think that i was comparing you with him...

i was saying that your self ritious attitude in this thread is the attitude i have to put up with..


DeniseC86's photo
Tue 09/30/08 09:42 AM

Ladies- why are we argueing with these men who are not single fathers? They have NO idea what sacrifices we make on an hourly basis.

There is a difference in saying "I chose to not have or be involved with someone with children" and when others say "You are damaged goods because you have children"

Let's not try teaching pigs to sing here, it will only upset us and irritate the pig.



i'm with you on that