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Topic: Why guys won't date single moms????
Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:06 AM

well if they are sharing toys..would you really want another kid to raise??



If they are sharing their toys their mama did her job right the first time around...:banana:

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Tue 09/30/08 10:08 AM
Is it too early to start drinking before chatting????huh drinker smokin

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Tue 09/30/08 10:08 AM
surprised shocked scared rofl holy crap!!!! Look at those wicked witch boots!!!

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:09 AM







nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!




You are making the critical error of passing your inability to learn to making it other people's mistakes.

1) You can only be brainwashed if you can't think for yourself.
2) Nobody forced you to drive 50 miles, 45 times. That is nobody's fault but your own. If he only met them 9 times out of 45 times, you should have learned after the first 5 drives what the pattern would be. If he really wanted to see the kids, he would have driving 50 miles to see them.
3) I don't sympathize for you if you stayed with him and allowed him to do all those things to you. If you are looking for sympathy, look somewhere else. You are all about responsibility, yet, when it comes to personal responsibility for yourself, you blow it off.
4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.


Again, a mean and uncalled comment. Why the hate?

She can think for herself and she has the ability to learn.

Methinks that you may do well with a psychology class and learn more about abused women and what happens to them psychologically while they are being abused.

Computers can't teach about life, you know.


really it may be tasteless or mean to make that comment but i think a lot of people think that when it comes to abuse. i mean sounds to me like a person with low self esteem got with a violent person with low self esteem and a god complex. i think the average person would have left the relationship long before many of those things happened.
however seeing as they did happen and she felt that she couldnt leave no one made the guy do the **** he did to her. all things considered id kick the **** out of him for her...

Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:09 AM

surprised shocked scared rofl holy crap!!!! Look at those wicked witch boots!!!


They are hot aren't they?

Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:09 AM


well if they are sharing toys..would you really want another kid to raise??



If they are sharing their toys their mama did her job right the first time around...:banana:


true..but if the guy starts complaining cause he didn't get the toy he wants..that's a different story..hahahaha

DeniseC86's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:09 AM

Is it too early to start drinking before chatting????huh drinker smokin



never too early for a drink! ooops maybe thats the alcoholic showing drinker drinks

Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:09 AM

Is it too early to start drinking before chatting????huh drinker smokin


depends on your view of early drinking...drinker

Amagurl's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:10 AM


surprised shocked scared rofl holy crap!!!! Look at those wicked witch boots!!!


They are hot aren't they?


I want a pair..but at 6ft. they would make me look like a transvestite..hahaha

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:10 AM
Edited by Winx on Tue 09/30/08 10:12 AM








nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!




You are making the critical error of passing your inability to learn to making it other people's mistakes.

1) You can only be brainwashed if you can't think for yourself.
2) Nobody forced you to drive 50 miles, 45 times. That is nobody's fault but your own. If he only met them 9 times out of 45 times, you should have learned after the first 5 drives what the pattern would be. If he really wanted to see the kids, he would have driving 50 miles to see them.
3) I don't sympathize for you if you stayed with him and allowed him to do all those things to you. If you are looking for sympathy, look somewhere else. You are all about responsibility, yet, when it comes to personal responsibility for yourself, you blow it off.
4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.


Again, a mean and uncalled comment. Why the hate?

She can think for herself and she has the ability to learn.

Methinks that you may do well with a psychology class and learn more about abused women and what happens to them psychologically while they are being abused.

Computers can't teach about life, you know.


really it may be tasteless or mean to make that comment but i think a lot of people think that when it comes to abuse. i mean sounds to me like a person with low self esteem got with a violent person with low self esteem and a god complex. i think the average person would have left the relationship long before many of those things happened.
however seeing as they did happen and she felt that she couldnt leave no one made the guy do the **** he did to her. all things considered id kick the **** out of him for her...



Do you have a background in psych.? What you have said it not always the case.

Quite often the woman feels that she doesn't have the choice to leave, especially if she is a stay-at-home mom with no money of her own.

And there are the women that fear for their lives if they leave. And more.


Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:21 AM









nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!




You are making the critical error of passing your inability to learn to making it other people's mistakes.

1) You can only be brainwashed if you can't think for yourself.
2) Nobody forced you to drive 50 miles, 45 times. That is nobody's fault but your own. If he only met them 9 times out of 45 times, you should have learned after the first 5 drives what the pattern would be. If he really wanted to see the kids, he would have driving 50 miles to see them.
3) I don't sympathize for you if you stayed with him and allowed him to do all those things to you. If you are looking for sympathy, look somewhere else. You are all about responsibility, yet, when it comes to personal responsibility for yourself, you blow it off.
4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.


Again, a mean and uncalled comment. Why the hate?

She can think for herself and she has the ability to learn.

Methinks that you may do well with a psychology class and learn more about abused women and what happens to them psychologically while they are being abused.

Computers can't teach about life, you know.


really it may be tasteless or mean to make that comment but i think a lot of people think that when it comes to abuse. i mean sounds to me like a person with low self esteem got with a violent person with low self esteem and a god complex. i think the average person would have left the relationship long before many of those things happened.
however seeing as they did happen and she felt that she couldnt leave no one made the guy do the **** he did to her. all things considered id kick the **** out of him for her...



Do you have a background in psych.? What you have said it not always the case.

Quite often the woman feels that she doesn't have the choice to leave, especially if she is a stay-at-home mom with no money of her own.

And there are the women that fear for their lives if they leave. And more.




dont have to have a degree to know that is someone is kickin your a$$ or putting a gun to your head you get the f*ck out!!

you always have a choice. and seeing how she is still alive she made the wrong choice to not go to the cops and since she said they didnt help she made the wrong choice by not getting out of town.

she also insinuated she didnt have children before he violated her so the stay at home mom thing seems mute.

but if there are any stay at home moms reading... let this be a lesson, get a job and a baby sitter, cause nothing is worth your independence especially if it just the price of a greyhound bus ticket holding you in a f*cked situation

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:23 AM










nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!




You are making the critical error of passing your inability to learn to making it other people's mistakes.

1) You can only be brainwashed if you can't think for yourself.
2) Nobody forced you to drive 50 miles, 45 times. That is nobody's fault but your own. If he only met them 9 times out of 45 times, you should have learned after the first 5 drives what the pattern would be. If he really wanted to see the kids, he would have driving 50 miles to see them.
3) I don't sympathize for you if you stayed with him and allowed him to do all those things to you. If you are looking for sympathy, look somewhere else. You are all about responsibility, yet, when it comes to personal responsibility for yourself, you blow it off.
4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.


Again, a mean and uncalled comment. Why the hate?

She can think for herself and she has the ability to learn.

Methinks that you may do well with a psychology class and learn more about abused women and what happens to them psychologically while they are being abused.

Computers can't teach about life, you know.


really it may be tasteless or mean to make that comment but i think a lot of people think that when it comes to abuse. i mean sounds to me like a person with low self esteem got with a violent person with low self esteem and a god complex. i think the average person would have left the relationship long before many of those things happened.
however seeing as they did happen and she felt that she couldnt leave no one made the guy do the **** he did to her. all things considered id kick the **** out of him for her...



Do you have a background in psych.? What you have said it not always the case.

Quite often the woman feels that she doesn't have the choice to leave, especially if she is a stay-at-home mom with no money of her own.

And there are the women that fear for their lives if they leave. And more.




dont have to have a degree to know that is someone is kickin your a$$ or putting a gun to your head you get the f*ck out!!

you always have a choice. and seeing how she is still alive she made the wrong choice to not go to the cops and since she said they didnt help she made the wrong choice by not getting out of town.

she also insinuated she didnt have children before he violated her so the stay at home mom thing seems mute.

but if there are any stay at home moms reading... let this be a lesson, get a job and a baby sitter, cause nothing is worth your independence especially if it just the price of a greyhound bus ticket holding you in a f*cked situation



Again, you have no idea what the cycle of abuse does to a woman or man's psyche. It wouldn't hurt to read up on it.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:28 AM
Edited by Winx on Tue 09/30/08 10:33 AM
Why are you two talking about and putting down a woman that is on this thread? AND it's off topic.:angry:



Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:28 AM




Again, a mean and uncalled comment. Why the hate?

She can think for herself and she has the ability to learn.

Methinks that you may do well with a psychology class and learn more about abused women and what happens to them psychologically while they are being abused.

Computers can't teach about life, you know.



Please take out all the emotional attachment to the words: "She can't think for herself" Okay. We have a sentence.

Prove: She can't think for herself.

Case 1:
Given: She knows it is wrong to hit people.
Given: She was hit by a person
Given: she knows it is unacceptable to cheat in a relationship
Given: She knows he cheated on her 29 times.
Given: She knows it is a crime to rape people
Given: She was raped


Outcome: She stayed in the relationship.
That is incorrect thinking. The desired outcome was not positive. It is the opposite outcome of what she wanted. Therefore there was a flaw in her judgement. The flaw was "She didn't think for herself". You said she did think for herself.
Therefore, I am proving she "can't" think for herself.


Given: She knows that only 1 out of 5 times she drives 50 miles to see the kids, the father shows up
Given: 50 miles is a long drive for a 20% probability for an appearance.
Given: The father has two legs, access to a bus or friends, he can come see the kids on his own.

Outcome: She kept driving 50 miles, 45 times to expect different results and blames the father for not being there.
That is not correct thinking. The whole situation could have been avoided after the first 10 drives. I do not know the intentions for the other 35 drives. IF* the intentions are compelling enough to drive 35 times, then the argument is mute because 45 drivings would have a higher cause than just for the children to meet their father. IF* she stayed home after the first 10 visit, the children would have lost out on 4 days of visitation with an abusive, bad influence that they could live without. She would have saved time and gas money, too.
I do not see where she was thinking for herself in this situation either.





I actually feel sorry for you.flowerforyou


and i feel sorry for you.



Whatever for?rofl

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:31 AM

Why are you two talking about and putting down a woman that is on this thread? AND it's off topic.




Nobody is putting down a woman.

DeniseC86's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:31 AM


lets look at it from the design point of view shall we:


It seems as if the program has a loop in it, (she stayed in the relationship). However, all you had to do is add another module (She got out eventually) and the outcome is officially positive.




I'm not sure you can say that since the negative effects of being abused are still abundant to this day.



the important thing is she got out. Theres always going to be negative side effects from everything that happens to a person. If got their heart broken many times they are hesitant to get n2 another relationship. If you get food poisoning then you will be hesitant to eat that particular food again. We all take things from our experiences and carry it on with us. Ultimately, she learned a lesson, tho at a terrible price.

DeniseC86's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:34 AM
Edited by DeniseC86 on Tue 09/30/08 10:35 AM
I will say to each his or her own...now lets make a campfire and sing the campfire song song.


C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E S-O-N-G...it would help if you just sing along!!!! bum bum bum... (sorry my son was watching spongebob this morning)

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:35 AM











nad yet the woman raises the child (not in all cases but in alot) and the man walks away with his every other weekend visitation.... NICE.

Do you have kids?



The man only gets the weekend visitation if the mommy is nice and lets him or if he pays for the time through child support.
i DROVE my kids 50 miles one direction every weekend to see their dad... he did NOT pay child support...
has never paid...

he would email me and tell me where and when to meet him.. of the 45 times i drove them in.. he saw them exactly 9!!!!!
SxBoY.. i like you.. but you are starting to pizz even me off here!

dont always blaim the mom.. my ex beat and raped me on a regular basis.. he cheated on me with 29 girls in the time of 6 years.. he brainwashed me to beleve that i could never find better...

i finaly got the strength to leave after he held a gun to my head once... he broke in my house and raped me.. and a few weeks later after he found out that i was preg.. he came back and tried/threatened to cut the baby out of my stomach..
his gf at the time lied for him and so the cops did nothing.. and STILL i tried to let him see his kids..

i did NOTHING wrong.. stood up and take care of my kids...
love every one of them.. they are MINE!!!

but i have to put up with attitudes like you are presenting EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE!!!




You are making the critical error of passing your inability to learn to making it other people's mistakes.

1) You can only be brainwashed if you can't think for yourself.
2) Nobody forced you to drive 50 miles, 45 times. That is nobody's fault but your own. If he only met them 9 times out of 45 times, you should have learned after the first 5 drives what the pattern would be. If he really wanted to see the kids, he would have driving 50 miles to see them.
3) I don't sympathize for you if you stayed with him and allowed him to do all those things to you. If you are looking for sympathy, look somewhere else. You are all about responsibility, yet, when it comes to personal responsibility for yourself, you blow it off.
4) I don't see how you can relate my attitude to a person that abused you and cheated on you 29 times. That's a little overboard.


Again, a mean and uncalled comment. Why the hate?

She can think for herself and she has the ability to learn.

Methinks that you may do well with a psychology class and learn more about abused women and what happens to them psychologically while they are being abused.

Computers can't teach about life, you know.


really it may be tasteless or mean to make that comment but i think a lot of people think that when it comes to abuse. i mean sounds to me like a person with low self esteem got with a violent person with low self esteem and a god complex. i think the average person would have left the relationship long before many of those things happened.
however seeing as they did happen and she felt that she couldnt leave no one made the guy do the **** he did to her. all things considered id kick the **** out of him for her...



Do you have a background in psych.? What you have said it not always the case.

Quite often the woman feels that she doesn't have the choice to leave, especially if she is a stay-at-home mom with no money of her own.

And there are the women that fear for their lives if they leave. And more.




dont have to have a degree to know that is someone is kickin your a$$ or putting a gun to your head you get the f*ck out!!

you always have a choice. and seeing how she is still alive she made the wrong choice to not go to the cops and since she said they didnt help she made the wrong choice by not getting out of town.

she also insinuated she didnt have children before he violated her so the stay at home mom thing seems mute.

but if there are any stay at home moms reading... let this be a lesson, get a job and a baby sitter, cause nothing is worth your independence especially if it just the price of a greyhound bus ticket holding you in a f*cked situation



Again, you have no idea what the cycle of abuse does to a woman or man's psyche. It wouldn't hurt to read up on it.flowerforyou


i dont need to. i dont beat women. i am a nice guy contrary to all the s#it being thrown at me in this forum. i know right from wrong. and i dont allow myself to become a victim.

if you think there is some logical psychoanalytical reason that a woman would stay there then i mean i find that disturbing. im not saying we should blame her but we certainly shouldnt lead her to believe it wasnt her fault in some way.

i know this is a small stretch of a analogy but follow me. if a black kid goes to school in the ghetto and he fails every class. people will be quick to blame society. all that does is tell the kid, its not your fault you failed you where destiny to fail because you live here in the ghetto. if that kid live in the suburbs they would get him a tutor. big difference! really it the kids fault for not passing. it is going to take the kid to realize it was his fault so he knows he also has the power to pass. you control your own destiny.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:37 AM

surprised shocked scared rofl holy crap!!!! Look at those wicked witch boots!!!
holy crap just look as thosedrool :smile:

the_mind_flayer's photo
Tue 09/30/08 10:39 AM


surprised shocked scared rofl holy crap!!!! Look at those wicked witch boots!!!
holy crap just look as thosedrool :smile:


Are they real?!

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