Topic: Chavez crackpot Remarks..
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Sun 09/28/08 11:02 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 09/28/08 11:04 AM
hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?


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Sun 09/28/08 11:06 AM

hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever

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Sun 09/28/08 11:06 AM

What I gathered from what I saw on the news....

Venezuela and Russia are joining forces so to to build an alliance against the U.S. Russia and Venezuela are showing military force in the Caribbean as we speak. It was said that it is mostly to irritate the U.S., but I don't know. They also said that Venezuela is borrowing money from Russia to purchase weapons from Russia. Also that Russia is sharing Nuclear technology with Venezuela. Russia is also building more refineries to accommodate the oil from Venezuela to decrease their dependence on the U.S.


okay...so, Venezuela and Russia are doing business and have good diplomatic relations...now, why does that automatically mean it has ANYTHING to do with the US??...if I read your post correctly, you are saying Russia gets its oil from the US?? Wow, funny, I thought Russia got its oil from the middle east and now has smartened up a bit and is buying it from its new friend the Venezuelans....but again, how does this have ANYTHING to do with the US?? Jeeze you guys think its always all about you dont ya??? huh

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Sun 09/28/08 11:09 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 09/28/08 11:10 AM


hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever


so where do all those sources say is the oil that we supposedly invaded for?

EDIT: and I don't suppose they mention Halabja, or the mass graves, or the torure chambers built specifcally for pre-schoolers?

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Sun 09/28/08 11:16 AM
Oh and the deal about Chavez I don't know about this character but what I do know is from the people I talk to coming in from other countries they think the USA is a place to come, make as much money as possible, and go home.

Many leave their wives and children behind because they feel they are safer in the arms of grandparents than living in the once great cities of this country were slum lords rule.

They do not understand how we let criminals rule our communities, refuse to support churches, and dishonor our elderly making them live in subhuman conditions.

Many that do come here with families have no illusions that their countries were/are devastated by drug lords and dictators that the USA has subsidized or at bare minimum ignored or corporations that have abandoned their employees here to go there and work them like slaves.

It is only a matter of time when the massive number of immigrants get fed up with the baloney that is going on in this country and support a candidate like Chavez for President in this country. We like to think we can suppress them with denying them the right to be on the voting grid but they have more political clout than anyone seems to recognize.

If you look solely at the raw numbers that are in the military they could easily take over or at least turn it into shambles. They have already done it in the prison systems. The only reason they are not knocking down the walls there is they don't want to starve in and economy that is more or less collasped and couldn't absorb them if we wanted to. Why do you think so many go back to jail. It is free food, free medical,free clothes,free sex, free dope, free education, and free internal security. What we don't provide we allow in provided by family who predominently are on public dole so we are paying for it indirectly. All the while not requireing them to work a lick. We could have productive prison industries but we can not compeat with the cheap imported goods made by slave child labor in foreign countries. For that matter our kids are wanting for jobs because virtually all manafactureing has been taken over by cheap imports. Sad part about it you have to buy three imported rags/sticks to make up for what used to be quality USA garments/furniture.

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Sun 09/28/08 11:20 AM


hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever


ohhhhhhhh an undergrad just getting your feet wet?

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Sun 09/28/08 11:31 AM

EVERYTHING you know is googled

doesnt that scare you?
Um not realy you see I prefer to use more than one source and get information that is varifiable. I suppose I could go to the library and do the same thing but why waste all this information that is right at your fingertips? I tend to go with information and the scientific method and logic not folksy wisdom and hunches. It sorta cracks me up the disdain you have for facts and data. laugh

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Sun 09/28/08 11:32 AM



hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever


ohhhhhhhh an undergrad just getting your feet wet?


Oh and you are better what degree did you acquire..........mine is coming from the top 20 in the country.............so disqualify me since I lack experience but hey its all good I have the drive and ambition............sounds familiar?

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Sun 09/28/08 11:32 AM
Education is not to be totally ignored but until you get out in the world and do some traveling and actually mingle with some people; common and world leaders don't necessarily buy what you read in books. A lot of what you read in the hallowed halls is exactly what they wanted you to see. There is a lot of revisionist history and if you don't believe it talk to some of the old timers. What they will tell you will make you worried; very worried.

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Sun 09/28/08 11:33 AM
like I said leave off the little passive agressive insults

you REALLY don't wanna pick a flame war with me

I'll happily get booted to see the same happen to you

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Sun 09/28/08 11:34 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 09/28/08 11:36 AM




hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever


ohhhhhhhh an undergrad just getting your feet wet?


Oh and you are better what degree did you acquire..........mine is coming from the top 20 in the country.............so disqualify me since I lack experience but hey its all good I have the drive and ambition............sounds familiar?


my degree?
Physics and Liberal Arts


but the point of course was that most of your original statements were not even true and sounded just like a repetition of moveon.orgs talking points

and you never did tell me where all that oil went

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Sun 09/28/08 11:36 AM

like I said leave off the little passive agressive insults

you REALLY don't wanna pick a flame war with me

I'll happily get booted to see the same happen to you
I dont get the insults, you have insulted facts and information that is easily verifiable and offerd no proof of your own except " you think so" It seems there is only one person looking for an argument. You insulted a gal who is working for a degree and said she was " just getting your feet wet" I havent even come close to that type of insult. Realy some facts to back up your argument would be most welcome

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Sun 09/28/08 11:37 AM
laugh laugh

like I said leave off the little passive agressive insults

you REALLY don't wanna pick a flame war with me

I'll happily get booted to see the same happen to you


Oh threats are meaningless but you want to go for it lets do it...........i have balls......

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Sun 09/28/08 11:38 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 09/28/08 11:44 AM
nahhhh all I have are opinions

I don't live and die by the copy/paste function and feel no need to proselytize and preach my monomaniacal vision

I just get tired of hearing it from others who couldnt carry on a thirty second conversation without pasting someone elses thoughts to keep from having an original idea of their own


Tanzkity's photo
Sun 09/28/08 11:38 AM

Education is not to be totally ignored but until you get out in the world and do some traveling and actually mingle with some people; common and world leaders don't necessarily buy what you read in books. A lot of what you read in the hallowed halls is exactly what they wanted you to see. There is a lot of revisionist history and if you don't believe it talk to some of the old timers. What they will tell you will make you worried; very worried.


By the way you talk about traveling I came from a different country.............I have been to Egypt, France, Greece, Italy, Dubai, Holland, Denmark, Canada, and Tanzania..............so Im quite aware of the world................

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Sun 09/28/08 11:38 AM

laugh laugh

like I said leave off the little passive agressive insults

you REALLY don't wanna pick a flame war with me

I'll happily get booted to see the same happen to you


Oh threats are meaningless but you want to go for it lets do it...........i have balls......


wasn't talking to you

sorry

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Sun 09/28/08 11:40 AM





hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever


ohhhhhhhh an undergrad just getting your feet wet?


Oh and you are better what degree did you acquire..........mine is coming from the top 20 in the country.............so disqualify me since I lack experience but hey its all good I have the drive and ambition............sounds familiar?


my degree?
Physics and Liberal Arts


but the point of course was that most of your original statements were not even true and sounded just like a repetition of moveon.orgs talking points

and you never did tell me where all that oil went



haha you must be kidding I didnt know you could double major in that.............physics my dad did that but if you are a physics major you dont all of a sudden gravitate to liberal arts............jmo

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Sun 09/28/08 11:42 AM


Education is not to be totally ignored but until you get out in the world and do some traveling and actually mingle with some people; common and world leaders don't necessarily buy what you read in books. A lot of what you read in the hallowed halls is exactly what they wanted you to see. There is a lot of revisionist history and if you don't believe it talk to some of the old timers. What they will tell you will make you worried; very worried.


By the way you talk about traveling I came from a different country.............I have been to Egypt, France, Greece, Italy, Dubai, Holland, Denmark, Canada, and Tanzania..............so Im quite aware of the world................


sighhhhhhh

and I have been to

Caracas
Aruba
Curacao
Barranquilla
Rodman
Panama City
Olangapo
Phukett
Hong Kong
Singapore
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq
Dubai
Bahrain
Tokyo
Kagoshima
Pusan
Seoul

and so many places I forget them all. what does THAT have to do with anything?

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Sun 09/28/08 11:43 AM






hahaha I was there. I LIVED through it. I don't need the web to teach me what happened

where do YOU get your information?




I get mine through Newsweek, through books that you have to get from the library..........the library of Congress is also very informative...........but also because I am a political science major...............with a minor in international diplomacy..............but whatever


ohhhhhhhh an undergrad just getting your feet wet?


Oh and you are better what degree did you acquire..........mine is coming from the top 20 in the country.............so disqualify me since I lack experience but hey its all good I have the drive and ambition............sounds familiar?


my degree?
Physics and Liberal Arts


but the point of course was that most of your original statements were not even true and sounded just like a repetition of moveon.orgs talking points

and you never did tell me where all that oil went



haha you must be kidding I didnt know you could double major in that.............physics my dad did that but if you are a physics major you dont all of a sudden gravitate to liberal arts............jmo


hahaha you think people only go to school for four years and they are done? education is a lifelong thing

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Sun 09/28/08 11:44 AM

nahhhh all I have are opinions

I don't live and die by the copy/paste function and feel no need to proselytize and preach my monomaniacal vision

I just get tired of hearing it from others who couldnt carry on a thirty second conversation without pasting someone elses thoughts to jeep from having an original idea of their own


again I have no trouble with information that is easily verifiable and if you doubt the information seek it out for yourself in any way your comfortable with. Being a physics major this should be elementary:wink: