Topic: Chavez crackpot Remarks..
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Mon 09/29/08 07:10 PM
stop worrying about Right wing Left wing and start focusing on right and wrong and maybe the country will get back on its feet...

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Mon 09/29/08 08:13 PM
Some good things done by Hugo Chavez........................ -- Transform sclerotic bureaucratic state institutions making them more efficient, transparent and honest while allowing greater citizen participation in them.

-- Reform the civil service and eliminate entrenched corruption that's a major uncorrected problem.

-- Advance the "ideals of social justice and economic independence" by continuing to build a new social and economic model based on equitably distributing national wealth through investments in health care, education and social security.

-- Modernize financial sectors including banking and insurance and reform tax policy assuring those paying too little are taxed fairly.

-- Upgrade science and technology benefitting all sectors of society and the nation in areas of education, health, the environment, biodiversity, industry, quality of life, security and national defense including state and local community co-responsibilities for the nation's defense.

-- Improve citizen and judicial security by modernizing and reforming public health, prisons, identification, migration regulations and the judiciary.

-- Upgrade the nation's infrastructure, transport and all public services including home construction, telecommunications and information technology.

-- Structurally improve and developmentally enhance the nation's military.

-- Establish territorial organization norms in states and communities relating to voting and constituency size.

-- Allow greater state control of the nation's vital energy sector including nationalizing oil production in the Orinoco Oil basin, arranging equitable joint ventures with private investors, taking state control of electricity and gas production, and restructuring tax rates making them fairer.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/3/opedne_stephen__070222_hugo_chavez_s_social.htm

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Mon 09/29/08 08:14 PM

Some good things done by Hugo Chavez........................ -- Transform sclerotic bureaucratic state institutions making them more efficient, transparent and honest while allowing greater citizen participation in them.

-- Reform the civil service and eliminate entrenched corruption that's a major uncorrected problem.

-- Advance the "ideals of social justice and economic independence" by continuing to build a new social and economic model based on equitably distributing national wealth through investments in health care, education and social security.

-- Modernize financial sectors including banking and insurance and reform tax policy assuring those paying too little are taxed fairly.

-- Upgrade science and technology benefitting all sectors of society and the nation in areas of education, health, the environment, biodiversity, industry, quality of life, security and national defense including state and local community co-responsibilities for the nation's defense.

-- Improve citizen and judicial security by modernizing and reforming public health, prisons, identification, migration regulations and the judiciary.

-- Upgrade the nation's infrastructure, transport and all public services including home construction, telecommunications and information technology.

-- Structurally improve and developmentally enhance the nation's military.

-- Establish territorial organization norms in states and communities relating to voting and constituency size.

-- Allow greater state control of the nation's vital energy sector including nationalizing oil production in the Orinoco Oil basin, arranging equitable joint ventures with private investors, taking state control of electricity and gas production, and restructuring tax rates making them fairer.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/3/opedne_stephen__070222_hugo_chavez_s_social.htm


Does this mean, that your moving there?

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Mon 09/29/08 08:15 PM
pretty please?

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Mon 09/29/08 08:21 PM
I would think that if you guys would condem a man like Hugo Chavez you would at least do a little research to at least know what you are talking about.

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Mon 09/29/08 08:22 PM
no thanks

I'm sure you'll do it for us

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Mon 09/29/08 08:26 PM

no thanks

I'm sure you'll do it for us
Not verry academic of youlaugh

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Mon 09/29/08 08:28 PM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Mon 09/29/08 08:28 PM
yeah I'm a rebel

if you ever came up with someting empirical I would listen. but it's mostly other peoples opinion presented as fact

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Mon 09/29/08 08:31 PM

yeah I'm a rebel

if you ever came up with someting empirical I would listen. but it's mostly other peoples opinion presented as fact
I report you decide, but at least I do a little homework

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Mon 09/29/08 08:36 PM
oooo you sound FOXy now!

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Mon 09/29/08 08:43 PM
Its fairly typical on this forum to just talk smack and have little or no real imformation beyond the propaganda.

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Mon 09/29/08 08:52 PM
I like to talk smack with small little subtle references that usually goes over everyone's heads

but it's gratifying when one or two people get it and laugh with me

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Mon 09/29/08 09:30 PM
i`m hungry, who wants pizza?

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Mon 09/29/08 09:32 PM
speaking of smack talkers

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Mon 09/29/08 09:32 PM

stop worrying about Right wing Left wing and start focusing on right and wrong and maybe the country will get back on its feet...


and that sums it all up for me

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Mon 09/29/08 09:35 PM
You’d think George Bush would get down on his knees and kiss Hugo Chávez’s behind. Not only has Chávez delivered cheap oil to the Bronx and other poor communities in the United States. And not only did he offer to bring aid to the victims of Katrina. In my interview with the president of Venezuela on March 28, he made Bush the following astonishing offer: Chávez would drop the price of oil to $50 a barrel, “not too high, a fair price,” he said—a third less than the $75 a barrel for oil recently posted on the spot market. That would bring down the price at the pump by about a buck, from $3 to $2 a gallon.

But our President has basically told Chávez to take his cheaper oil and stick it up his pipeline. Before I explain why Bush has done so, let me explain why Chávez has the power to pull it off—and the method in the seeming madness of his “take-my-oil-please!” deal.

Venezuela, Chávez told me, has more oil than Saudi Arabia. A nutty boast? Not by a long shot. In fact, his surprising claim comes from a most surprising source: the U.S. Department of Energy. In an internal report, the DOE estimates that Venezuela has five times the Saudis’ reserves.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_intv0706

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Mon 09/29/08 09:39 PM
beware rattlesnakes bearing gifts

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Mon 09/29/08 09:43 PM
But the ascendance of Venezuela within OPEC necessarily means the decline of the power of the House of Saud. And the Bush family wouldn’t like that one bit. It comes down to “petro-dollars.” When George W. ferried then-Crown Prince (now King) Abdullah of Saudi Arabia around the Crawford ranch in a golf cart it wasn’t because America needs Arabian oil. The Saudis will always sell us their petroleum. What Bush needs is Saudi petro-dollars. Saudi Arabia has, over the past three decades, kindly recycled the cash sucked from the wallets of American SUV owners and sent much of the loot right back to New York to buy U.S. Treasury bills and other U.S. assets.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_intv0706

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Mon 09/29/08 09:45 PM

speaking of smack talkers

smack? wow, been years since i did a line of that...lol

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Mon 09/29/08 09:46 PM
who are you gonna bash when he's gone

You're not gonna have George Bush to kick around anymore