Topic: RACISM ----- WHAT'S YOUR VIEW?
wouldee's photo
Wed 09/17/08 01:35 AM

yup.

things can't stay gray as we age.

right and wrong are as different as black and white.

and reliving the past in grays is made worse when choosing to walk with someone that hasn't learned that black and white make gray, and they really need to know that, for discernment sake.

Now, carrots and cauliflower say this too,

but I say it like this.

did anyone feel me?

or feel only uncomfortable?


ah..... gotta listen to ourselves and our feelings, huh?

peace, out.


flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile



papersmile's photo
Wed 09/17/08 03:46 AM
Edited by papersmile on Wed 09/17/08 03:47 AM
1954

May 17 - The U.S. Supreme Court overturns the doctrine of “separate but equal” in Brown v. Board of Education, ruling that segregation in public schools is impermissible. Thurgood Marshall served as attorney for the NAACP.



eventually i'll get to reading this forum in its entirety. however, i had to stop at this point and comment.

the toronto district school board has gone ahead with plans to have a completely black school, black students, black teachers, black-based curriculum.

i'm not working at the board any longer, so i'm not as close to this issue as i could have been, had i been privy to the trustees' decisions and comments. rather i am just reading about it in the news and having conversations with former employees. however, i see it as taking a step backward and negating all that was achieved by the above decision.

sure, the point of the school is to keep black people in school and graduate. ultimately that is the goal, however you go about achieving it. my concern is that i can't help but see segregation and the highlighting of differences rather than similarities.

papersmile's photo
Wed 09/17/08 03:49 AM
AS A DARK SHADED PERSON, HOW MANY PERSON WILL ACCEPT MY FRIENDSHIP?
OR AS A LIGHT SHADED PERSON, HOW MANY WILL ACCEPT YOUR FRIENDSHIP?
LOOK INTO IT, ARE DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER?


i'm still stuck on the first page, haha


i wouldn't accept, or deny, friendship by or from a person who defined their very being based on the colour of their skin

to me, friendship is a lot deeper than surface

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 09/17/08 06:05 AM
We are all within the human race....I don't care if your black, white, green, red, brown.

Teaching the children is the ticket......and letting people get off their high horse about the injustice in their races........


Just get over and


Love everyone......thats it....tyvm

OrangeCat's photo
Wed 09/17/08 07:18 AM
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

luckycharm89's photo
Wed 09/17/08 07:42 AM

Unfortunately It's still alive. and it is working both ways.think


Exactly what I was going to say...it's definitely two-sided. But it's all ridiculous either way.

no photo
Wed 09/17/08 08:07 AM
Racism is the belief that a particular race is superior or inferior to another, that a person’s social and moral traits are predetermined by his or her inborn biological characteristics. Racial separatism is the belief, most of the time based on racism, that different races should remain segregated and apart from one another.

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We are different, and there is nothing wrong with recognizing, acknowledging, celebrating, being proud of it, and learning to live among others...it is sheer hypocrisy to try to live as "one happy family", we are different and that should never be denied..HOWEVER...to say one is better than the other, to justify the subordination of another because of ones skin or place of origin, should be abolished and looked upon as a horrific sin against the creator, who made us all in his image....

bergeia's photo
Wed 09/17/08 12:53 PM
i mostly agree symbel but i still dont like people. no one is better or worse thana nyone else, theyre all ****ty, lol. :)

warmachine's photo
Wed 09/17/08 01:01 PM
I'm reminded of a joke- I'm not racsist, I own a color T.V.

Wasn't that Archie Bunker?

bergeia's photo
Wed 09/17/08 01:08 PM
lol i loved archie. lol

warmachine's photo
Wed 09/17/08 02:00 PM

lol i loved archie. lol


drinker

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Wed 09/17/08 06:14 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 09/17/08 07:02 PM


i judge humanity by its actions, that speaks volumes. dont tell me i cant hate, i have that emotion and i like it.


Hate is a valid emotion when it based upon something rational. You are more than free to hate. Probably not the best thing in the world for you but it is understandable!

Irrational hate based upon a lack of knowledge and experience is foolish. Do we agree?

I agree.

Racism is stupid. There. That's my view.

OK, so all joking aside...

Here's a lovely debate or maybe a socialogical exploration, because more often than not, any debate supposedly about racism ends up being about something completely different. We're not going to end this discussion at any point during human existence. As long as there is a concept of race, there will be racism. As long as we are human we will create a reason of why we are superior to someone else.

I don't have a problem with racism as a concept or ideal or whatever you want to call it as long as it doesn't infringe on my safety and basic rights as a resident of planet earth. Hate me or love me, I really don't care. Pull a gun on me or try to hang me and we might have a problem. Of course, we'd have a problem with that even if your reason was because I was in the wrong place at the right time and not the color of my skin.

The problem with racism isn't the hatred of another race. If we said I hate you and let you go on your merry way who would care? It is how that hate or in some cases just this idea that one race is better and therefore should have more opportunity oppresses the other race(s). Not hate, but just as killing to the soul. Hate me and I'll ignore you and we all go to work tomorrow, kiss our kids good night, pay our bills and go on. If only it were that easy.

The fact will always be that there are people who won't like you for a lot of reasons. Most of these people won't ever lay eyes on you. Can you change that? Does it even matter? Not really, if it were only about hate.

I don't like cauliflower. I hate it, one might say. I therefore choose to not eat it, not buy it or grow it or have anything to do with cauliflower when I can help it. If somehow a stray floret crosses my path, I leave it be. I don't stab it repeatedly screaming with my eyes rolled back. I leave it alone. If somehow it gets into my mixed vegetables I don't get rid of the rest of the vegetables. I eat them and leave the cauliflower. Not all vegetables are bad so no reason not to enjoy my carrots.

This chick is bent right? Not really, it's just that I could hate all vegetables because I hate cauliflower. That would be within my rights I would think. I could boycott cauliflower growers or sabotage their crops. I could go around and commit produce murder or refuse services to anyone having to do with cauliflower. Why not take them out too, after all, they are contributing to this evil cauliflower plot.

I could take this to an even more insanely satirical level, but my point is it is not my hatred of cauliflower that matters. It's what I do with my hatred of cauliflower. And what are we to do about those actions or re-actions? That is the debate I think is more interesting.

Is it possible for racism to exist and not affect the people beyond a base level opinion or conjecture? Is racism the cause or the effect? Does it ever end or does it give way to a new way of establishing superiority? As in, by not being preceived as racist, we are therefore better than you? If racism doesn't go away, do we care if it is wrong?

I don't know the answers, but I still have my carrots.

I'll leave the cauliflower for the rest to decipher.

Excellent point and most wonderfully illustrated!

no photo
Thu 09/18/08 11:47 AM

I'm reminded of a joke- I'm not racsist, I own a color T.V.

Wasn't that Archie Bunker?


In those days he was called a biggot...yet, despite his narrow vision of humanity, he was honest about who he was and how he felt and because of that he was able to have honest relationships with others who were not like himself, everyone knew where the stood with Archie....

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/18/08 12:37 PM
Yeah, you might have thought he was an A-hole, but he was a straight forward honest a-hole. Now everyones politically correct, which has just made for a nation of liars. It's no wonder than nobody trusts the person across from them...

bergeia's photo
Thu 09/18/08 12:46 PM
no wonder everyone wants to vote obama too. just so they can lie and say "hey im not racist! i voted for obama! im progressive!"

Giocamo's photo
Thu 09/18/08 04:01 PM
Archie's best was..." One black family on your block is a novelty, and two's a ghetto "...

Quikstepper's photo
Thu 09/18/08 05:55 PM

I don't think that you are been rude... someone ask me earlier to explain the purpose of posting this this discussion.

There are no specific topic for discussion... just share your opinion of RACISM and i'm sure that some will find interest in what you say and my want to follow up on it.

So that ho wthe discussions come about.



Here's what I think of racism...at one time it was neccessary to elevate various people to equal status with the rest of society.

I think all sorts of people have come along way & it's used in a very twisted way to keep people divided. It's become a political mess (my definition) because why bring these things up for election purposes when these politicans we elect don't do anything for the average American anymore.

I think instead of waiting for someone to hand something to us on a silver platter we need to get out there & be our own agents of change. I personally would love to see the nurse, the teacher, the firefighter, the cop, the conductor... run for election. I'd vote FOR them because I consider them to be "one of us." The heck with our physical differences. That & a dime won't get yu a cup o coffee anymore. I'm tired of seeing lawyers & wealthy people run for office. Aren't you?

I think that's why there is such an attraction to SARAH PALIN. She's down home unlike hollywood stuffed shirts & the carreer politicans & all their lobbyist pals.

EMIT's photo
Thu 11/06/08 10:06 AM
Hello,everyone, it's good to se that we are able to share our opinions dispite our own deferences, thanks for keeping this topic.

Remeber when i post this topic, i didnt meant for persons to arrogantly agree or disagree, i dint do it find out who are racists or to encourage it, i thought that it would be a good idea to find someone to talk with about my or oue opinions.

So , keep the good communication going, i'm sure that whatever you have to say, even if you believe that it makes no sence at all, some, yes, someone will find in interetsing and may want to follow up on it.

Remember that this is a debating topic, so no one will ever have control of it, it doesb't matter how strong your opinion may be, so let's have some fun, and again thanks for sharing your opinions.

Have a great day.
What is your opinion on the matter of a shaded President for America?

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Thu 11/06/08 08:00 PM


Have a great day.
What is your opinion on the matter of a shaded President for America?

I don't give a rat's behind what color he is. I would have gladly voted for Colin Powell or Conoleezza Rice on the Republican side and I wouldn't have voted for any number of white men on the Democratic side.
I'm sure Obama will serve with pride for America and I hope that if the race issue has importance it will be because in some way Obama's election soothes hundreds of years of wounds that should have never happened in a supposedly Christian culture.

Winx's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:03 PM

Archie's best was..." One black family on your block is a novelty, and two's a ghetto "...


I just don't see the humor in that.