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"We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country." Barack Obama, August 28, 2008 very simple. Just causeit feels good, doesnt mean yuo should do it. |
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ya..I got an idea. stop putting briany spears or her sister on the cover of magazines so that every teenage little girl can think their kind of life is so cool.
media manipulation against the youth is what i call it |
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ya..I got an idea. stop putting briany spears or her sister on the cover of magazines so that every teenage little girl can think their kind of life is so cool. media manipulation against the youth is what i call it please be more specific into what that has to do with the idea of abortion and when a human being should be consdered a humanbeing? |
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Edited by
catwoman96
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stopping teenage pregnancies is what it had to do with.
making abortion a pointless argument. i mean I am just guessing, but i would assume that the majority of people that abort children are either young or dumb. (or both- as being young u make mistakes) This is the biggest issue. educate and rid the smut magazines off of the grocery store shelves. take a 16 year old girl living in a mansion saying how happy she is to have her child..that can be sold in the same place they sell playboy as far as Im concerned. |
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Abortion is just Murder and you would think the liberals would be against it, They are against Lethal Injections, the war in Iraq and any other form of Cruelty, but when it comes to a baby, they have no soul, they are heartless and want the option to Kill something that has yet gotten to know life. Not all Liberals are against lethal injections, and many are against the war in Iraq because it began on false pretences. Who are we to judge others on this moral issue? In my opinion, that is between the person and their self, and their God, or whatever they choose to call it. 
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Abortion is just Murder and you would think the liberals would be against it, They are against Lethal Injections, the war in Iraq and any other form of Cruelty, but when it comes to a baby, they have no soul, they are heartless and want the option to Kill something that has yet gotten to know life. Not all Liberals are against lethal injections, and many are against the war in Iraq because it began on false pretences. Who are we to judge others on this moral issue? In my opinion, that is between the person and their self, and their God, or whatever they choose to call it. Even liberals Beloved Bill Clinton Believed Saddam had WMD..... Liberals are all for saving peoples live except for the unborn, they have no problem killing them. |
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abortion is just wrong.
supporting it is equally wrong. its murder plain and simple. how the heck can somebody who talks about "an american dream" support killing unborn children. its ironic to the core. |
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abortion is just wrong. supporting it is equally wrong. its murder plain and simple. how the heck can somebody who talks about "an american dream" support killing unborn children. its ironic to the core. 
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* Think I posted in the wrong forum, here's my question. Originally posted in Lindy's thread.*
my question is a simple one, why are so many people interested and focused on taking the rights away from "women who chose" to have abortions? An individuals rights begin at birth until the umbilical cord is severed it (embryo/fetus) is considered part of the mother. Part of her body, therefore her choice. no? |
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abortion is just wrong. supporting it is equally wrong. its murder plain and simple. how the heck can somebody who talks about "an american dream" support killing unborn children. its ironic to the core.  What dream? What do you mean? And how is it ironic?
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* Think I posted in the wrong forum, here's my question. Originally posted in Lindy's thread.* my question is a simple one, why are so many people interested and focused on taking the rights away from "women who chose" to have abortions? An individuals rights begin at birth until the umbilical cord is severed it (embryo/fetus) is considered part of the mother. Part of her body, therefore her choice. no? you said it exactly fran. no. |
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Edited by
daniel48706
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abortion is just wrong. supporting it is equally wrong. its murder plain and simple. how the heck can somebody who talks about "an american dream" support killing unborn children. its ironic to the core. What dream? What do you mean? And how is it ironic? I suppose each american has his own "dream". A good job, a good family, a picket fence, 2 dogs and a cat. money in the bank to be a lifelong bachelor to serve the country to better america good family values death is an act of either God, murder, or in some cases surival. to question rather a 3 week old fetus has a life is stupidity in my opinion. I view it as extremly hypocritical that one can support family values, american values...but yet say its okay for a women to go to the doctor and have her baby removed from her body. the choice should be do i have sex? do i understand the risks involved. not anything else |
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the choice should be do i have sex? do i understand the risks involved. not anything else Thank you!!!!!! Finally someone who sees the real issue at hand here. Dont get me wrong I am not saying abortion is not an issue, as it is a very serious one. But so far as women having a choice of what to do, that choice is has to be made long before a child is even in the picture. If you do nto wanna have children, use birth control, whatever form you are most comfortable with. If that doesnt work then look at adoption. And just to keep people from jumping forward about rape, incest and all that other side squabbles.... yes Rape is a nasty perverted thing that needs to be punished. however, if a rapist impregnates a woman at the same time, then that is one more thing to hold the guy accountable for. As far as incest, I think most of us woudl agree that most of that would be rape in most cases as well, and not choice. and for the one that will get me bashed from here to eternity, lol, the womans life? once again, birth control or abstinancy. If you CHOOSE to have sex, then you CHOOSE to deliver the baby to term if a baby results. |
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the choice should be do i have sex? do i understand the risks involved. not anything else Thank you!!!!!! Finally someone who sees the real issue at hand here. Dont get me wrong I am not saying abortion is not an issue, as it is a very serious one. But so far as women having a choice of what to do, that choice is has to be made long before a child is even in the picture. If you do nto wanna have children, use birth control, whatever form you are most comfortable with. If that doesnt work then look at adoption. And just to keep people from jumping forward about rape, incest and all that other side squabbles.... yes Rape is a nasty perverted thing that needs to be punished. however, if a rapist impregnates a woman at the same time, then that is one more thing to hold the guy accountable for. As far as incest, I think most of us woudl agree that most of that would be rape in most cases as well, and not choice. and for the one that will get me bashed from here to eternity, lol, the womans life? once again, birth control or abstinancy. If you CHOOSE to have sex, then you CHOOSE to deliver the baby to term if a baby results. I just love all this self-righteous, finger-pointing, sanctimonious crap...women do not get pregnant by themselves, there are a WHOLE slew of reasons why a woman ends up with an unwanted pregnancy, and unless you are that woman, you are NO ONE to judge or control her actions... Plain and simple...against abortion? DONT HAVE ONE!! AND DONT presume you have the right to impose your dogmatic values on me.. If you are a man who is against abortion, then keep your penis in your pants.. since thats half of the problem right there... |
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* Think I posted in the wrong forum, here's my question. Originally posted in Lindy's thread.* my question is a simple one, why are so many people interested and focused on taking the rights away from "women who chose" to have abortions? An individuals rights begin at birth until the umbilical cord is severed it (embryo/fetus) is considered part of the mother. Part of her body, therefore her choice. no? you said it exactly fran. no. took the easy way out, I see. An (embryo/fetus) individual has no rights until it's born and the umbilical cord is severed until then it is a part of the mother's body to do with as she choses. (not agree/nor condemning) her choices, but ultimately it is her choice. she may not make the right choice (according to you) she may make the wrong choice (again according to you) she may not make the choice you'd want her to make but ultimately is her choice why condemn and judge another persons legal right to make personal decisions? |
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"We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country." Barack Obama, August 28, 2008 very simple. Just causeit feels good, doesnt mean yuo should do it. wouldnt it be nice if men abided by this instead of expecting women to... 
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the choice should be do i have sex? do i understand the risks involved. not anything else Thank you!!!!!! Finally someone who sees the real issue at hand here. Dont get me wrong I am not saying abortion is not an issue, as it is a very serious one. But so far as women having a choice of what to do, that choice is has to be made long before a child is even in the picture. If you do nto wanna have children, use birth control, whatever form you are most comfortable with. If that doesnt work then look at adoption. And just to keep people from jumping forward about rape, incest and all that other side squabbles.... yes Rape is a nasty perverted thing that needs to be punished. however, if a rapist impregnates a woman at the same time, then that is one more thing to hold the guy accountable for. As far as incest, I think most of us woudl agree that most of that would be rape in most cases as well, and not choice. and for the one that will get me bashed from here to eternity, lol, the womans life? once again, birth control or abstinancy. If you CHOOSE to have sex, then you CHOOSE to deliver the baby to term if a baby results. I just love all this self-righteous, finger-pointing, sanctimonious crap...women do not get pregnant by themselves, there are a WHOLE slew of reasons why a woman ends up with an unwanted pregnancy, and unless you are that woman, you are NO ONE to judge or control her actions... Plain and simple...against abortion? DONT HAVE ONE!! AND DONT presume you have the right to impose your dogmatic values on me.. If you are a man who is against abortion, then keep your penis in your pants.. since thats half of the problem right there... Actually it is less than one percent the problem. The attitude you just showed is the entire problem at it's heart. many women (I am not sying all) think that because it is their body then they can go out and have sex whenever they want to, then blame the man when they get pregnant, have an abortion without consulting theowuld be father about what he wants (and yes I know that sadly this IS legal). You say a man should keep his penis in his pants right? Well a woman should keep her legs crossed (in the case of consentual sex). i agree the man needs to take responsibility. hwoever, that does nt aleviate you fromt aking responsibility as well. |
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Edited by
daniel48706
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* Think I posted in the wrong forum, here's my question. Originally posted in Lindy's thread.* my question is a simple one, why are so many people interested and focused on taking the rights away from "women who chose" to have abortions? An individuals rights begin at birth until the umbilical cord is severed it (embryo/fetus) is considered part of the mother. Part of her body, therefore her choice. no? As of right now I am not condemning her, cause as you said it Is (sadly) her legal right to choose. I am stating that that legal "right" should be revoked. And then yes she shoul be condemened towhatever local law deems proper for murder. you said it exactly fran. no. took the easy way out, I see. An (embryo/fetus) individual has no rights until it's born and the umbilical cord is severed until then it is a part of the mother's body to do with as she choses. (not agree/nor condemning) her choices, but ultimately it is her choice. she may not make the right choice (according to you) she may make the wrong choice (again according to you) she may not make the choice you'd want her to make but ultimately is her choice why condemn and judge another persons legal right to make personal decisions? |
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"We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country." Barack Obama, August 28, 2008 very simple. Just causeit feels good, doesnt mean yuo should do it. wouldnt it be nice if men abided by this instead of expecting women to... whyfor you singleing me out symbel? You specifically quoted my posts, and replied to my posts, but you conveniently have not commented on the posts or to the women who I qupted, backing my arguments up. AndI never said women alone should say n to sex if they dont want children. both men AND women should say no. Plain and simple if you (male or female) do nto want the responsibility of delivering a baby intot his world (no matter the process in delivering) then you should not drop your pants. |
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