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Topic: what does Obama believe?
voileazur Joined Sun 03/11/07 Posts: 2140	Tue 09/02/08 09:21 AM Edited by voileazur on Tue 09/02/08 09:22 AM
Can't expect to have a quality debate, with such a dishonest, loaded, and moralisticaly misleading question. I'v already figured out that there is no debate or discussion on this channel. Just a lot of dirt slinging. True enough 'quiet'!!! I've come to a similar conclusion long ago. But don't you think that confronting some of these hosts, acting in pure bad faith, might help change the end result? While it won't turn every thread into a great debate, it might provide a few good ones, as opposed to none!!! So, what would turn it into a good debate? Remaining ... OPEN MINDED (accepting that they're are several legitimate sides to any question, especially true for the host!), ... CIVIL, and ... RESPECTFUL of the opposing sides of any DEBATING QUESTION PROPOSED.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Tue 09/02/08 09:31 AM
The US is 24th in Infant Mortality...That's a crime...So much for your We Have the Best Health care in the world... When it comes to Americans' specific attitudes about the legality of abortion, public opinion is somewhat more conservative than its attachment to these labels would suggest. Nearly 6 in 10 Americans (58%) think abortion should either be limited to only a few circumstances or illegal in all circumstances. Just 4 in 10 (41%) think it should be legal in all or most circumstances. http://archive.redstate.com/stories/culture/life_issues/abortion_polls_show_shift_toward_pro_lifers So are you suggesting that since a majority are leaning Pro Life, that's the way it should be for everyone? Democracy has to be something more than 2 wolves and a sheep sitting down and voting on what's for dinner. YUP I think abortion should be considered a crime nowadays there are many other ways to prevent pregnancy.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Tue 09/02/08 09:38 AM
Can't expect to have a quality debate, with such a dishonest, loaded, and moralisticaly misleading question. I'v already figured out that there is no debate or discussion on this channel. Just a lot of dirt slinging. True enough 'quiet'!!! I've come to a similar conclusion long ago. But don't you think that confronting some of these hosts, acting in pure bad faith, might help change the end result? While it won't turn every thread into a great debate, it might provide a few good ones, as opposed to none!!! So, what would turn it into a good debate? Remaining ... OPEN MINDED (accepting that they're are several legitimate sides to any question, especially true for the host!), ... CIVIL, and ... RESPECTFUL of the opposing sides of any DEBATING QUESTION PROPOSED. I'd like to add, separating fact from opinion to the mix. Nicely put voileazur!

Marine1488 Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 323	Tue 09/02/08 06:27 PM Edited by Marine1488 on Tue 09/02/08 06:28 PM
Marine you have yet to answer what your personal course of action will be to take care of ALL of these infants that you will be dooming countless women to carry and deliver full term. Daniel had the guts to say yep, he indeed doesn't care and it "isn't his problem" even though he had a hand in creating it. Got an answer for it yet? Or do you require more time? We are waiting with baited breath. Do I look like a daycare? Sorry it took so long to respond to your question but I work for a living. Take care of your own and I will take care of mine. Its all about responsibility. I promise none of mine will be paid for or hindered by you. Can I expect any less? I think so because you already have the simple solution which is abortion then you can go about your life with your so called mistake. Feel better? Go look in the mirror and see if your happy? Telll yourself whatever you like to make it by. But in the end you already know what you did. Now live with it.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Wed 09/03/08 04:35 AM Edited by Krimsa on Wed 09/03/08 04:37 AM
Marine you have yet to answer what your personal course of action will be to take care of ALL of these infants that you will be dooming countless women to carry and deliver full term. Daniel had the guts to say yep, he indeed doesn't care and it "isn't his problem" even though he had a hand in creating it. Got an answer for it yet? Or do you require more time? We are waiting with baited breath. Do I look like a daycare? Sorry it took so long to respond to your question but I work for a living. Take care of your own and I will take care of mine. Its all about responsibility. I promise none of mine will be paid for or hindered by you. Can I expect any less? I think so because you already have the simple solution which is abortion then you can go about your life with your so called mistake. Feel better? Go look in the mirror and see if your happy? Telll yourself whatever you like to make it by. But in the end you already know what you did. Now live with it. Please sir leave personal insults out and simply address the issues. You don't seem to understand that "your own" will not only be the rug rats you are responsible for creating but those of EVERY single woman in this country you will now condemn to carrying an unwanted pregnancy. What do you expect to happen to those children exactly? We have already established that adoption is certainly not the answer. Some of those babies might be adopted but many wont. You also have yet to address the issue of what will be done about the mothers who are drug addicted.The babies will be born compromised in some capacity due to this and may not be adopted or be adoptable. Not to mention that you are STILL forcing that woman to go through a nine month pregnancy and labor! What gives you the right to tell HER or anyone else what they are able to do with their own physical being? Nothing.We aren't living in the 1800s where men just totally controlled EVERY facet of a woman's life and could beat and rape his wife with impunity because she was to be considered HIS property. Im sensing you would prefer to regress back into those dark ages and then you could simply string up the likes of women like me who choose to speak out. Just think, you would not be forced to spend hours online answering to me for your lack of humanity because I would be knocked up and barefoot somewhere.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Wed 09/03/08 05:38 AM
Marine you have yet to answer what your personal course of action will be to take care of ALL of these infants that you will be dooming countless women to carry and deliver full term. Daniel had the guts to say yep, he indeed doesn't care and it "isn't his problem" even though he had a hand in creating it. Got an answer for it yet? Or do you require more time? We are waiting with baited breath. Do I look like a daycare? Sorry it took so long to respond to your question but I work for a living. Take care of your own and I will take care of mine. Its all about responsibility. I promise none of mine will be paid for or hindered by you. Can I expect any less? I think so because you already have the simple solution which is abortion then you can go about your life with your so called mistake. Feel better? Go look in the mirror and see if your happy? Telll yourself whatever you like to make it by. But in the end you already know what you did. Now live with it. Are you assuming that any woman who supports choice will go out and get an abortion to suit her needs?