continued from another post,

"this may get a tad heated"

Quickstepper:

Q says:

Who knows what it will take for each person to make the decision to fully surrender to God Tribo. It's all about individual choices. Every-one's life experiences are different & so results vary...but we are the only ones in the way of God's move. That's the truth Tribo.

TRIBO REPLIES"

for you its the truth - but it does not answer my question - either the spirit of god teaches all the same truth or he does not. To me it is evident he does not or the body would not be divided - i can see it no other way quickie.

you talk of surrender - that is not what god/Jesus promised - he promised that when the spirit of truth came it would give everyone of the believers "AL TRUTH" i have never seen this happen in my life nor do i think it will - Why? because its not possible, it's a story, no more no less. Even the apostles argued and rebuked over what god meant to do with the gentiles. So what hope does one have as an unbeliever to want to get into your faith? And which sect will he/she become and what set of truths will they believe and yadda,yadda,yadda.

In the beginning was A god, and A god said, who am i? and my god responded - you are who you are. And A god replied I am that i am? and my god said - you got it buddy. and he found out he could create things ans so he did not knowing what would happen and at first he felt it was good, and then he found out differently and he he said the heck with it and went on to better things, Tribo chpt 1 to be continued ------------

Q:



The Spirit of God teaches everyone the same truth. Yes... everyone WILL experience the same revelation... the vary comes from the differing levels of faith.

If someone has trouble with belief then they won't be in agreement with God's word. Like the person who calls themself a Christian but steals. Why is he stealing if he's a Christain is anyone's guess but it doesn't make God a liar.

It's all about what man believes but nevertheless...God remains the same & we only recieve from Him when we surrender control to Him.

TRIBO:

your still missing what I'm saying Q


I'm not talking of such things as Christians stealing - I'm talking of things of god not being understood to be the same by all. wouldee made the statement that only those of you who had ""the spirit"" could know >>>the truth<<< correct?

what I'm getting at is that even when you have this spirit you don't agree on the words of god, this is not about you - it's about gods ability through his spirit of truth that is to lead you in ALL TRUTHS not leading you to see ALL TRUTHS the same - do you get it yet??


Either what Jesus said to the apostles was true or it was not! i say it is not! why? because i see no proof of it - i see disagreement of people who claim to have the spirit of truth even on here. also when i was in the faith, so how can this be if the spirit according to Jesus was to teach in ALL truths, not just the core tenants?

i believe your all listening to your own minds conditioned by years of reading and praying and hanging out with other's of your faith. the ""talks"" you say you have ""with god"" are your own voices not his or his spirits. if this is not true then do me a favor ask him the questions i ask of you and get back to me with the spirits answers OK?

no it's not about wanting to hear what i want Q, it's about reading what god says and responding to what i consider a lie. Either Jesus is lying when he states the spirit of truth will teach you ""ALL truth"" or he did!

what i see and hear with my own eyes and ears is that he did not! Christians are all over the place with there beliefs, so what good is the holy spirit doing then?

like i said if anyone who claims to speak with god through Jesus by having the spirit of god of absolute "TRUTH" - then please ask him the questions I'm asking and get back with the answers, if there in line with the word and not spoken as quotes from the word, maybe i will believe them, couldn't hurt right??

so that's the challenge OK - tell me why the spirit of truth has neither now or before now taught all of you the same? i don't want your answers remember - just ask the holy spirit to tell you and then relay that info here - alright? thnx

God Tribo? Hey, if I go to heaven, how many virgins do I get?

tjhrer ios mnmo gfpod, jkust imagfionmaruy gftriernds

Are we having fun yet?

i will as soon as you get your butt over here

No, of course not. Why would you say such a thing?

You're not taking about that biblical doctrine again are you?

Of course that's full of lies.

But that doesn't make God a liar.

The Bible has nothing to do with God, it was written by men. It's the men who wrote the Bible who are liars Tribo.

God wrote the universe. If you want to know God read the universe.

Become a scientist. They are the only true followers of God Tribo.

All else is false doctrines written by superstitious bigoted male-chauvanistic men who love to spread brotherly hate under the lie that it somehow represents brotherly love.

Surely you don't think God would want to spread brotherly hate do you? Clearly the book has nothing to do with God.

God is not a liar, but I have heard that Satan is the Father of all lies.


JB

james majyk man wrote:

Become a scientist. They are the only true followers of >>God Tribo<<


GOD TRIBO REPLIES:

you follow me james?? god tribo??? hmmm? i didn't know i had any followers, nor that i was god???



i'm only talking of the mythical god james not the real god, the universal quantum field or prime source or my god, just trying to find out if the holy spirit will tell me about the god of the book. -

The holy spirit is the same spirit that talks through those Ouija boards. They always lie. They never tell people the same things.

JB

i had a >>squeegee board<< once when i was a kid your right didn't work.

Oh they work. It depends on who is touching them though.

I could not get them to work at all but my little sister evokes the spawn of Satan with them.. LOL

And they tell crazy lies sometimes.

I think they channel the subconscious of some people. My sister did not purposely make them say things. She was terrified of them. They totally freaked her out. She was very supersticioius.

But for me, they just go in circles. I don't know what that means.

JB

Okay back to the subject, sorry if I hijacked the thread.

IF, as wouldee says, a truly BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN communicates with God via the HOLY SPIRIT why don't all Born again Christians agree with each other about what the real truth is?

Better yet, what truth are they referring to exactly?

That is the question we are waiting to hear the answer to.

JB

JB

JB, i think they all believe in the main tenents of the faith - that jesus is god and that he was born of a virgin and that he became man to save us from our sins by dieing on the cross as the ultimate sacrifice and rose from the dead and decended into hell and then ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of god and that if he is accepted in to their hearts that they will be forgiven their sins and live eternally with him in heaven. or more basically the >apostles creed< or other later ones.

but jesus states that he will send the comforter aka the holy spirit to indwell them and teach them in >>all truths<< of his word, that's what i'm discussing here not the tenents - but the rest of what is written either in the old or new testament.

Either he has or he has not - i say he has not because of what i or anyone can plainly see of the faith itself - they are divided over issues and therefore not all who claim to have the spirit do - or - god is a liar.

so i'm merely asking those who claim they talk to or with god daily to ask the holy spirit to tell me why this is so?? i think that's fair don't you?

The biblical story doesn't even work as a myth.

Seriously, you'd be better off reading Alice in Wonderland, or The Wizard of Oz. They are a bit more consistent.

Actually james i think it does fit the myth catagory well.

myth
One entry found.

myth




Main Entry: myth
Pronunciation: \ˈmith\
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek mythos
Date: 1830
1 a: a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon b: parable, allegory
2 a: a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society <seduced by the American myth of individualism — Orde Coombs> b: an unfounded or false notion
3: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence
4: the whole body of myths


i'll let you pick which one you like best.I personaly like #3

i do think that the wizard of oz has the greatest line on powerful gods of myth's though

"don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain! The great and terrible OZ has spoken!!

I guess you're right Sam. There's nothing that says that a myth has to make sense.

I responded to this on the other thread - do I have to post it on this one too?

NO.... God is not a liar. <--period

I've heard it all now, c'mon, God doesn't speak through a Ouija board, If God chooses to speak to you, you will know, there will be no doubts

Tribo...

You just don't like the answer Tribo... No matter. Let God be true & every man a liar.

God's word is true every bit regardless of if men agree or disagree.

The only thing that gets in the way of God is humans. Why do you want to blame God for the choices we make?????