Topic: LET'S FIGHT.
playwithmeoooolala's photo
Fri 08/29/08 06:58 PM

Scientific studies continue to find evidence to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic. If you adopt a child, he or she is either straight or gay according to genetics, not according to how they are raised. You just know. I didn't have to decide whether I liked girls or guys, I just liked guys. Nobody influenced me as to what I should like. Gay people who adopt (I know some) do not try to influence their children's sexuality. If they were of the twisted mindset that they would do that, I would hope they would never get the approval to adopt.

theres so much we don't know. medically you can be born with both sets of genitals. no one has the right to say You are wrong. No one has the right to judge you.

playwithmeoooolala's photo
Fri 08/29/08 07:01 PM

Oh ,..PULEEEZE..you keep getting off the subject. I realize you are out of ammo so just admit that I have won the debate and you are done...lol
Those are circumstances that are out of controll of the people who have tried to do the right thing and raise the kids right. Accidents DO happen and some kids are mentally challenged and think they need a sex change. That is NOT what I am talking about. I am talking about the PARENTS(cough.cough) that willingly get into a gay relationship and don't think about the ramifications that they are causing in their family and bloodlines. I can see the kids in 40 years tracing the bloodlines back to....nothingness.


i'm not getting off the topic at all. i'm merely responding to your comments, highlighting points you are trying to make which have no bearing on the actual examples you are giving, but rather rest solely on the issue of your lack of tolerance toward homosexuality.

i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.

i can be in a lesbian relationship and still continue my bloodline if i so wish. i can find a male partner to impregnate me, or i can go to the sperm bank and get artificially inseminated.

if you don't accept the lifestyle, that's fine. but don't try to sugarcoat your reasons by offering up examples like 'no bloodlines, etc.'. just call a spade a spade.

oh, and as far as waving the white flag, i can argue about this til the sun comes up, for there is no right or wrong answer, just different thought processes. i may give up, but only because there is only so much one can say over and over and over and over.


i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.



you must not investigate things. or read medical studies.

playwithmeoooolala's photo
Fri 08/29/08 07:01 PM

Oh ,..PULEEEZE..you keep getting off the subject. I realize you are out of ammo so just admit that I have won the debate and you are done...lol
Those are circumstances that are out of controll of the people who have tried to do the right thing and raise the kids right. Accidents DO happen and some kids are mentally challenged and think they need a sex change. That is NOT what I am talking about. I am talking about the PARENTS(cough.cough) that willingly get into a gay relationship and don't think about the ramifications that they are causing in their family and bloodlines. I can see the kids in 40 years tracing the bloodlines back to....nothingness.


i'm not getting off the topic at all. i'm merely responding to your comments, highlighting points you are trying to make which have no bearing on the actual examples you are giving, but rather rest solely on the issue of your lack of tolerance toward homosexuality.

i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.

i can be in a lesbian relationship and still continue my bloodline if i so wish. i can find a male partner to impregnate me, or i can go to the sperm bank and get artificially inseminated.

if you don't accept the lifestyle, that's fine. but don't try to sugarcoat your reasons by offering up examples like 'no bloodlines, etc.'. just call a spade a spade.

oh, and as far as waving the white flag, i can argue about this til the sun comes up, for there is no right or wrong answer, just different thought processes. i may give up, but only because there is only so much one can say over and over and over and over.


i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.



you must not investigate things. or read medical studies.

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 08/29/08 09:06 PM
I may sound like an asshole here...I am sometimes..
I have gay and lesbian friends...one of my lesbian friends has 4 kids from "before she went'dyke'" in her own words,even she said two gay people shouldn't, out of common sense...
No, it doesnt mean the kid will be gay as well....

However, think of it this way....would you want to have gay parents of the same sex?
It would make you feel a little odd wouldn't it..
Everyone has their own opinion, and we are all entitled to that...It is my opinion that gay should not be allowed to marry, as it is the opinion of my lesbian and gay friends as well...
Being gay, is cool, but to demand equality in marriage is simply wrong...it was never designed, for that...

Call me an asshole if you want to, look at my screen name....LOVE ME IF YOU CAN...

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 08/29/08 09:07 PM


Scientific studies continue to find evidence to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic. If you adopt a child, he or she is either straight or gay according to genetics, not according to how they are raised. You just know. I didn't have to decide whether I liked girls or guys, I just liked guys. Nobody influenced me as to what I should like. Gay people who adopt (I know some) do not try to influence their children's sexuality. If they were of the twisted mindset that they would do that, I would hope they would never get the approval to adopt.

theres so much we don't know. medically you can be born with both sets of genitals. no one has the right to say You are wrong. No one has the right to judge you.


Called a hermaphrodite

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 08/29/08 09:09 PM


Oh ,..PULEEEZE..you keep getting off the subject. I realize you are out of ammo so just admit that I have won the debate and you are done...lol
Those are circumstances that are out of controll of the people who have tried to do the right thing and raise the kids right. Accidents DO happen and some kids are mentally challenged and think they need a sex change. That is NOT what I am talking about. I am talking about the PARENTS(cough.cough) that willingly get into a gay relationship and don't think about the ramifications that they are causing in their family and bloodlines. I can see the kids in 40 years tracing the bloodlines back to....nothingness.


i'm not getting off the topic at all. i'm merely responding to your comments, highlighting points you are trying to make which have no bearing on the actual examples you are giving, but rather rest solely on the issue of your lack of tolerance toward homosexuality.

i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.

i can be in a lesbian relationship and still continue my bloodline if i so wish. i can find a male partner to impregnate me, or i can go to the sperm bank and get artificially inseminated.

if you don't accept the lifestyle, that's fine. but don't try to sugarcoat your reasons by offering up examples like 'no bloodlines, etc.'. just call a spade a spade.

oh, and as far as waving the white flag, i can argue about this til the sun comes up, for there is no right or wrong answer, just different thought processes. i may give up, but only because there is only so much one can say over and over and over and over.


i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.



you must not investigate things. or read medical studies.


You must not know too many gay people...all of the gay and lesbians i know have been with members of the opposite sex and decided they wanted same sex relationships....why dont you go do some research.

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Fri 08/29/08 09:13 PM

devil I think 2 hot lesbians should adopt medevil
slaphead rofl surprised :angel: :thumbsup: waving shades

no photo
Fri 08/29/08 09:36 PM
as long as the child is loved and in a safe environment
then I see no problem with it

papersmile's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:08 PM
You must not know too many gay people...all of the gay and lesbians i know have been with members of the opposite sex and decided they wanted same sex relationships....why dont you go do some research.


you must be right.

i only live in the 2nd largest (or is it the largest now?) city in north america with the highest population of gays. i couldn't possibly know any gay people, haha.

i only was extremely involved in the curriculum development of the draft resource guide for teachers in secondary schools in toronto on the subject of homsexuality, lesbianism and homophobia, which involved consultation with hundreds of experts, both medical personnel as well as advocates for their particular group.

we ALL 'decide' what sort of relationship we enter. but we don't 'decide' to be gay. of course nothing has been proven, whether it's genetic, choice, or as a friend of mine (and former 'just say hi' member) insists - a disease. i don't think i'd have to do much further research as it'd be plastered over every form of media if it were medically discovered and proven that genetics and/or environment played absolutely no part and that being gay was a conscious decision, a choice.

most gay people who have been with their opposite sex have probably been so because they either felt pressure to be 'normal' and attempted to fit into the standards that society dictated and/or are bisexual.

hinkypoepoe's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:17 PM
Edited by hinkypoepoe on Fri 08/29/08 10:22 PM

:heart: How many of you folks here feel that a same sex marriage
should adopt the same sex child and try to raise them with all the right values of BOTH SEXES???

In other words do YOU think two men can raise a male child to VIEW life from a normal out-look.:heart:
And or,,Two women who raise a daughter?:heart:


2 Women or 2 men or a man and a goat or a woman and a donkey can not raise a child and expect that child to have the same point of view on life as a child brought up in a home with a male roll module and a female roll model. Nature does not work that way. The child will either lack discipline or lack compassion or lack some other required emotion that needs to be nurtured. I know people will say that a same sex couple can do just as good of a job as a traditional family but I don’t agree. Single parent families are even worse. To many men in our society want to hit it and quit it and they leave a innocent soul with one parent who has to struggle to survive and is unable to raise that child properly. I know women take off to but not nearly as much as men do.



MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:19 PM
bigsmile Who cares?bigsmile

papersmile's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:27 PM
bigsmile Who cares?bigsmile


that is probably the best post in this entire thread!

i guess "I" care because i don't think that any person, based solely on their sexual orientation, should be denied any right that is awarded to a heterosexual person.

and, on that note, there's really nothing more that i am able to say. it's an issue that i happen to feel very passionately about, but neither am i willing to try change anyone's mind as i realize the subject can be personally sensitive, as well as against the beliefs of major religions.

all i can do to contribute is to remain open-minded and raise my own children to be tolerant of those who are different from them.

hinkypoepoe's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:51 PM

bigsmile Who cares?bigsmile


that is probably the best post in this entire thread!

i guess "I" care because i don't think that any person, based solely on their sexual orientation, should be denied any right that is awarded to a heterosexual person.

and, on that note, there's really nothing more that i am able to say. it's an issue that i happen to feel very passionately about, but neither am i willing to try change anyone's mind as i realize the subject can be personally sensitive, as well as against the beliefs of major religions.

all i can do to contribute is to remain open-minded and raise my own children to be tolerant of those who are different from them.


Very well spoken...very well spoken.

playwithmeoooolala's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:59 PM



Oh ,..PULEEEZE..you keep getting off the subject. I realize you are out of ammo so just admit that I have won the debate and you are done...lol
Those are circumstances that are out of controll of the people who have tried to do the right thing and raise the kids right. Accidents DO happen and some kids are mentally challenged and think they need a sex change. That is NOT what I am talking about. I am talking about the PARENTS(cough.cough) that willingly get into a gay relationship and don't think about the ramifications that they are causing in their family and bloodlines. I can see the kids in 40 years tracing the bloodlines back to....nothingness.


i'm not getting off the topic at all. i'm merely responding to your comments, highlighting points you are trying to make which have no bearing on the actual examples you are giving, but rather rest solely on the issue of your lack of tolerance toward homosexuality.

i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.

i can be in a lesbian relationship and still continue my bloodline if i so wish. i can find a male partner to impregnate me, or i can go to the sperm bank and get artificially inseminated.

if you don't accept the lifestyle, that's fine. but don't try to sugarcoat your reasons by offering up examples like 'no bloodlines, etc.'. just call a spade a spade.

oh, and as far as waving the white flag, i can argue about this til the sun comes up, for there is no right or wrong answer, just different thought processes. i may give up, but only because there is only so much one can say over and over and over and over.


i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.



you must not investigate things. or read medical studies.


You must not know too many gay people...all of the gay and lesbians i know have been with members of the opposite sex and decided they wanted same sex relationships....why dont you go do some research.

If you did research you would know there is two sides to every fence

PacificStar48's photo
Sat 08/30/08 12:10 AM
I have seen many long term same sex couples and some I would consider much preferable to the heterosexual parents that sometimes pass as normal from the outside persona they project but are hateful,disinterested, manipulative, and discourageing to their children on every level. Does that mean all same sex parents are good parents? No but I tend to believe the ones who go through the procedures required to adopt have made a bigger effort to think through and prepare for a child's need's than folks who just can make their own. Do I think kid's who have non-traditional family structures have greif to look forward to? Yea but if not for their parents it will be something else and that just doesn't make a good enough reason to deprive a child from having a family by adoption.

playwithmeoooolala's photo
Sat 08/30/08 12:12 AM



Oh ,..PULEEEZE..you keep getting off the subject. I realize you are out of ammo so just admit that I have won the debate and you are done...lol
Those are circumstances that are out of controll of the people who have tried to do the right thing and raise the kids right. Accidents DO happen and some kids are mentally challenged and think they need a sex change. That is NOT what I am talking about. I am talking about the PARENTS(cough.cough) that willingly get into a gay relationship and don't think about the ramifications that they are causing in their family and bloodlines. I can see the kids in 40 years tracing the bloodlines back to....nothingness.


i'm not getting off the topic at all. i'm merely responding to your comments, highlighting points you are trying to make which have no bearing on the actual examples you are giving, but rather rest solely on the issue of your lack of tolerance toward homosexuality.

i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.

i can be in a lesbian relationship and still continue my bloodline if i so wish. i can find a male partner to impregnate me, or i can go to the sperm bank and get artificially inseminated.

if you don't accept the lifestyle, that's fine. but don't try to sugarcoat your reasons by offering up examples like 'no bloodlines, etc.'. just call a spade a spade.

oh, and as far as waving the white flag, i can argue about this til the sun comes up, for there is no right or wrong answer, just different thought processes. i may give up, but only because there is only so much one can say over and over and over and over.


i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.



you must not investigate things. or read medical studies.


You must not know too many gay people...all of the gay and lesbians i know have been with members of the opposite sex and decided they wanted same sex relationships....why dont you go do some research.



thats what i was saying. i did not say i haven't read or heard ANY scientific/medical evidence that homosexuals and lesbians willingly become that way.

Gams's photo
Sat 08/30/08 12:16 AM

I......oops...wrong room...look at the time:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:


laugh laugh laugh

usernamefayou's photo
Sat 08/30/08 12:32 AM
Edited by usernamefayou on Sat 08/30/08 12:33 AM
People don't have values anymore. lol

I'd usually be more than happy that there are two guardians versus one no matter their gender in case one of them goes crazy.

Many times the traditional couple situation is far worse than a same sex one.

bad_girl's photo
Sat 08/30/08 12:57 AM
Good answer


Many times the traditional couple situation is far worse than a same sex one.

boneyjoe's photo
Sat 08/30/08 01:10 AM


I......oops...wrong room...look at the time:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:


laugh laugh laugh
yep,,,,,,,as far as your kids,,,,i feel like they will luv ya or hate ya forth way you raised them,,,,,,,