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 OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad? And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple..... Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal  Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids.. I'm not going to go beyond this post in an debating. What do you mean you are "worried about our future generations of kids.." Worried of what? What do you think is going to happen to the children from such relationships? You just loaded the gun and aimed it at your foot. Go ahead and pull the trigger. |
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 Very interesting that some wish NOT to even speak here as it MIGHT really tell more about them,? I guess? But THANKS for all the replies and we ALL will share different out-looks as to this question,wink.. 
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Edited by
Lakeman
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This world is gettin really fcked up. I will always be on the side of a NORMAL relationship between opposite sexes. This thread just brought ole Tim McGraw's song to mind.
"Back When" Don't you remember The fizz in a pepper Peanuts in a bottle At ten, two and four A fried bologna sandwich With mayo and tomato Sittin' round the table Don't happen much anymore We got too complicated It's all way over-rated I like the old and out-dated Way of life Back when a hoe was a hoe Coke was a coke And crack's what you were doing When you were cracking jokes Back when a screw was a screw The wind was all that blew And when you said I'm down with that Well it meant you had the flu I miss back when I miss back when I miss back when I love my records Black, shiny vinyl Clicks and pops And white noise Man they sounded fine I had my favorite stations The ones that played them all Country, soul and rock-and-roll What happened to those times? I'm readin' Street Slang For Dummies Cause they put pop in my country I want more for my money The way it was back then Back when a hoe was a hoe Coke was a coke And crack's what you were doing When you were cracking jokes Back when a screw was a screw The wind was all that blew And when you said I'm down with that Well it meant you had the flu I miss back when I miss back when I miss back when Give me a flat top for strumming I want the whole world to be humming Just keep it coming The way it was back then Back when a hoe was a hoe Coke was a coke And crack's what you were doing When you were cracking jokes Back when a screw was a screw The wind was all that blew And when you said I'm down with that Well it meant you had the flu I miss back when I miss back when I miss back when |
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This world is gettin really fcked up. I will always be on the side of a NORMAL relationship between opposite sexes. This thread just brought ole Tim McGraw's song to mind. please define "normal" for me..... and how you would propose that "normal" relationships work... |
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Edited by
papersmile
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Fri 08/29/08 04:26 PM
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How many of you folks here feel that a same sex marriage should adopt the same sex child and try to raise them with all the right values of BOTH SEXES??? In other words do YOU think two men can raise a male child to VIEW life from a normal out-look. And or,,Two women who raise a daughter? first off, define 'normal'. secondly, don't men and women have the same values, in that they are either good values or bad values? or did you mean raise them with typical gender-appropriate attitudes? to me, nothing is more important than the love, attention and guidance of loving, nurturing, good-example-setting role-models, be them men, women, fathers and/or mothers, certainly not the sexual orientations of the people close to them. |
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This world is gettin really fcked up. I will always be on the side of a NORMAL relationship between opposite sexes. This thread just brought ole Tim McGraw's song to mind. please define "normal" for me..... and how you would propose that "normal" relationships work... There are PLENTY of great relationships out there between men and women. The only ones that we hear about are the unhappy squawkers that are pointing fingers at each other and blaming each other for the failed relationship. The happy ones are content and DON'T make a lot of noise. A man and a woman that have similar values and ideals stick to the marriage vows and make it work. |
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This world is gettin really fcked up. I will always be on the side of a NORMAL relationship between opposite sexes. This thread just brought ole Tim McGraw's song to mind. please define "normal" for me..... and how you would propose that "normal" relationships work... There are PLENTY of great relationships out there between men and women. The only ones that we hear about are the unhappy squawkers that are pointing fingers at each other and blaming each other for the failed relationship. The happy ones are content and DON'T make a lot of noise. A man and a woman that have similar values and ideals stick to the marriage vows and make it work. There are plenty of great relationships out there between women and women or men and men as well. |
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we wont know for 30 years. we really dont know the effects things will have until a team investigates and does surveys......
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I think there is alot worse things then being gay. I mean.... a man and woman can raise a kid and mess them all up. If there is love and knowledge there will be growth.
I think the kid my be judged for the parents choise of being gay and out of the closet. But..... that happens to so many kids about so many other things. I really cant say that iether one is better than the other. |
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How many of you folks here feel that a same sex marriage should adopt the same sex child and try to raise them with all the right values of BOTH SEXES??? In other words do YOU think two men can raise a male child to VIEW life from a normal out-look. And or,,Two women who raise a daughter? first off, define 'normal'. secondly, don't men and women have the same values, in that they are either good values or bad values? or did you mean raise them with typical gender-appropriate attitudes? to me, nothing is more important than the love, attention and guidance of loving, nurturing, good-example-setting role-models, be them men, women, fathers and/or mothers, certainly not the sexual orientations of the people close to them. The gender-appropriate attitudes are important to give the child a balanced dose of both male and female guidance. Men are from mars and women are from Venus...lol. Giving ALL the rearing from one side will make the child unbalanced when he is thrown out into society. Heaven forbid tha the first confontration with a female would be in a school playground...lol. All hell would break loose. |
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The gender-appropriate attitudes are important to give the child a balanced dose of both male and female guidance. Men are from mars and women are from Venus...lol. Giving ALL the rearing from one side will make the child unbalanced when he is thrown out into society. Heaven forbid tha the first confontration with a female would be in a school playground...lol. All hell would break loose. hmmmm, i'm a girl yet most of my childhood was spent climbing trees and playing football. what if a parent dies while a child is in infancy and the widowed parent never remarries and only has one gender which influences them? many, if not most, gay/lesbian couples are distinctly more male/female in their thinking and in their mannerisms. besides, who says that the gender-appropriate issues need to come from the parents anyway, and can't be something demonstrated by playing with their peers? |
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How many of you folks here feel that a same sex marriage should adopt the same sex child and try to raise them with all the right values of BOTH SEXES??? In other words do YOU think two men can raise a male child to VIEW life from a normal out-look. And or,,Two women who raise a daughter? first off, define 'normal'. secondly, don't men and women have the same values, in that they are either good values or bad values? or did you mean raise them with typical gender-appropriate attitudes? to me, nothing is more important than the love, attention and guidance of loving, nurturing, good-example-setting role-models, be them men, women, fathers and/or mothers, certainly not the sexual orientations of the people close to them. The gender-appropriate attitudes are important to give the child a balanced dose of both male and female guidance. Men are from mars and women are from Venus...lol. Giving ALL the rearing from one side will make the child unbalanced when he is thrown out into society. Heaven forbid tha the first confontration with a female would be in a school playground...lol. All hell would break loose. So, what about a child who is brought up only by a single mother? Or a single father? |
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I see the word "normal" thrown around alot, and I get the impression that is a misnomer for "socially accepted behavior"...50 years ago, inter-racial marriages were not only considered un-normal, they were illegal and the debate still goes on to this day, whether its "healthy" for a child of one race/ethnicity to be raised by someone of a different race/ethnicity.
The problem isnt with the child or the family, the problem is with society that is so quick to judge, label and condemn any behavior that deviates from that which is socially accepted ie.NORMAL so I say...subvert the dominant paradigm..none of it really matters anyways... |
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The problem isnt with the child or the family, the problem is with society that is so quick to judge, label and condemn any behavior that deviates from that which is socially accepted ie.NORMAL Exactly 
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*backs out of the room quickly*
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lol...no need to run Mary...lol.
All I am saying is that the child will be more balanced and ready to face the world with a male AND female in the house. I am not talking about the family that has a tragedy and looses a parent. That can be fixed by injection of another person into that relationship to offsett the problem. Kids need both sides of the spectrum to get the whole picture of what's going on with the world or they will take a back seat to the rest!!! 
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That can be fixed by injection of another person into that relationship to offsett the problem haha, sometimes that might cause more problems than those which you are suggesting |
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The problem isnt with the child or the family, the problem is with society that is so quick to judge, label and condemn any behavior that deviates from that which is socially accepted ie.NORMAL Exactly Thumbs down...The act of a gay marriage is against the Bible for one thing...Another is that you are setting the child up for failure... releasing him into a world where he will be labeled or disgraced by the public. I guess if ya live in California you will have the best chance at this garbage but most states still consider NORMAL as being a husband and wife marriage. You can argue all day with me and it won't matter. That's my story...and I'm stickin' to it!! |
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That can be fixed by injection of another person into that relationship to offsett the problem haha, sometimes that might cause more problems than those which you are suggesting Thats where its the parents responsibility to choose correectly and shelter her baby from the idiots out there |
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Edited by
papersmile
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Fri 08/29/08 05:40 PM
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Thumbs down...The act of a gay marriage is against the Bible for one thing...Another is that you are setting the child up for failure... releasing him into a world where he will be labeled or disgraced by the public. I guess if ya live in California you will have the best chance at this garbage but most states still consider NORMAL as being a husband and wife marriage. You can argue all day with me and it won't matter. That's my story...and I'm stickin' to it!! and if i'm not christian and don't believe in the bible, shall i follow what you preach just because YOU believe it? oh, and i'm a member of the public, yet "I" wouldn't disgrace a person who had gays or lesbians as parents. haha, and i don't want to argue about it. personally i think that so long as gays and lesbians are treated with dignity and respect, and are awarded the same benefits that heterosexual couples are, a person does not have to agree with, or even accept, their lifestyle. Thats where its the parents responsibility to choose correectly and shelter her baby from the idiots out there poppycock. sometimes, no matter the quality and the character of the new partner, the child (or the adult) resist and problems are caused. |
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