Topic: LET'S FIGHT.
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Sun 08/24/08 10:01 AM

flowerforyou Heres the thing...if your against that kind of stuff...then whats the solution for all the kids that are in our adoption system...since alot of people are against abortion, we have a ton of kids with no parents...someone needs to adopt themflowerforyou


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plk1966's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:01 AM

:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


I have several gay couple friends that have children. The women are called momma with their first name attached, so if I was one of the women the child would call me Momma Patti. And the guys actually are they same way except the word daddy.

It is no different for a gay couple to raise a child of the same sex or opposite as it is for a single parent. A politician once said it takes a village to raise a child and this is soo true so what does the gender or sexual orientation of the parents matter as long as the child is loved and cared for.

cherry5's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:05 AM
i think theres a hell of alot more things in this world to be worried about than the sexual orientation of others. theres kids with only one parent and kids with no parents. just be happy that they have any one in their life at all

jnbuglady's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:13 AM
I agree with cherry5, isn't it more important to have a caring,loving,supportive,guiding parent,than what the sex of the parent is, come on, so many kids, people never know love, thats why this world is in the mess it is in.

Jules0565's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:13 AM

:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


You can't base it on ."who will they call mom or dad"..... when MOST of today's society are SINGLE PARENT homes.. what's worse???

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Sun 08/24/08 10:14 AM

devil I think 2 hot lesbians should adopt medevil
laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 08/24/08 10:15 AM


I......oops...wrong room...look at the time:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Chick.......chick,,,,,chicken.........wink,lol


You called? bigsmile

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Sun 08/24/08 10:16 AM


:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


Worried about our future generations? Why? Because they're going to be more tolerant and open than the older generations? That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
A generation is just 10 years, GOD'S words have been told for 1000's of years, yet in the past 20 years WE AS A PEOPLE have NOW thought to do whatever WE WANT.
And FEEL that "THIS" new CHANGE is a "GOOD THING"?
SEE "NOW" alot of people see the same sex as desire to do, or be.
And I think OK, thats their lives and "COOL".
But when you ask of me THINKING its ok for them to raise children that they CAN'T make themselves, and adotion is their only way of having children,,I feel that the childrens out-looks will be tainted through their own observations in growing-up.
I raised three kids and their all stright, and I have seen the devastation of my daughters husbands ex-wife (of four kids) turn to being in a gay relationship after their children were from ages 14 years old down to 4 years old.
Her new family has been through alot with their real mother's change in preferences. SO I have watched their feelings and their thoughts to see first hand how it has affected them.
And THATS WHY, I thought I'd run this post,,to ask...

plk1966's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:24 AM



:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


Worried about our future generations? Why? Because they're going to be more tolerant and open than the older generations? That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
A generation is just 10 years, GOD'S words have been told for 1000's of years, yet in the past 20 years WE AS A PEOPLE have NOW thought to do whatever WE WANT.
And FEEL that "THIS" new CHANGE is a "GOOD THING"?
SEE "NOW" alot of people see the same sex as desire to do, or be.
And I think OK, thats their lives and "COOL".
But when you ask of me THINKING its ok for them to raise children that they CAN'T make themselves, and adotion is their only way of having children,,I feel that the childrens out-looks will be tainted through their own observations in growing-up.
I raised three kids and their all stright, and I have seen the devastation of my daughters husbands ex-wife (of four kids) turn to being in a gay relationship after their children were from ages 14 years old down to 4 years old.
Her new family has been through alot with their real mother's change in preferences. SO I have watched their feelings and their thoughts to see first hand how it has affected them.
And THATS WHY, I thought I'd run this post,,to ask...


Straight people can raise gay children as well you know. A persons sexual orientation doesn't necessarily mean that they would be bad parents. Hell many straight people have screwed up their kids for life.

I don't mean to offend you but my take on what you are trying to day is that gay people can't not show a child what straight love is. Your children's observation growing up have nothing much to do with their sexual orientation. Many gay couples have raised loving straight children. Many straight people have raise loving gay people. It is all in how and what you teach your children. I think that most parents teach their children to be themselves, to be responcilbe, honest, caring people.

crm1068's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:30 AM
There are plenty of "normal" couples that have no business raising children. In my opinion orientation has nothing to do with parenting skills or lack thereof.

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Sun 08/24/08 10:35 AM
Touchy subject, one I usually avoid. I think there are many kids in confusing situations in homes of all backgrounds, & homosexuality isn't the problem, it's a symptom. I think the greatest problem facing kids today is overpopulation. From uterus to grave it affect every aspect of life. I think the reason we have more gays appearing in society is overpopulation. This is a natural way of slowing breeding, & is seen in animals living in over crowded conditions. There are scientific studies in the chemistry of a woman's body changing when she has carried multiple boy babies, & how this affects the sexuality of future baby boys she has.

I am not sure that being raised by a gay couple is the best situation, but then how many of us have the best situation? How do you define it? The more I think about it the more confused I become. I am sure a gay couple is capable of loving & teaching as much as anyone else. Perhaps the problem is how we deal with sexuality, the importance that is placed on it & how much infiormation kids get before they are ready to deal with it.

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Sun 08/24/08 10:45 AM




:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


Worried about our future generations? Why? Because they're going to be more tolerant and open than the older generations? That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
A generation is just 10 years, GOD'S words have been told for 1000's of years, yet in the past 20 years WE AS A PEOPLE have NOW thought to do whatever WE WANT.
And FEEL that "THIS" new CHANGE is a "GOOD THING"?
SEE "NOW" alot of people see the same sex as desire to do, or be.
And I think OK, thats their lives and "COOL".
But when you ask of me THINKING its ok for them to raise children that they CAN'T make themselves, and adotion is their only way of having children,,I feel that the childrens out-looks will be tainted through their own observations in growing-up.
I raised three kids and their all stright, and I have seen the devastation of my daughters husbands ex-wife (of four kids) turn to being in a gay relationship after their children were from ages 14 years old down to 4 years old.
Her new family has been through alot with their real mother's change in preferences. SO I have watched their feelings and their thoughts to see first hand how it has affected them.
And THATS WHY, I thought I'd run this post,,to ask...


Straight people can raise gay children as well you know. A persons sexual orientation doesn't necessarily mean that they would be bad parents. Hell many straight people have screwed up their kids for life.

I don't mean to offend you but my take on what you are trying to day is that gay people can't not show a child what straight love is. Your children's observation growing up have nothing much to do with their sexual orientation. Many gay couples have raised loving straight children. Many straight people have raise loving gay people. It is all in how and what you teach your children. I think that most parents teach their children to be themselves, to be responsible, honest, caring people.
SO,,if I understand YOU as well?
Then a child who was raised by a drunk or an abuser or a theif
or drug addict,,,,,will not be CHANGED by what they SEE, HEAR, FEEL, or WITNESS? Is THAT what your saying?
Because I have witnessed the four year olds questions as to who his mommy's lady friend is and the rejection of his mother from
the 14 year old son...Because her new lover looks so much like a man,,HE THOUGHT she was? ALL of THIS because one MOTHER decided to do what SHE wanted NOW,,instead of adapting her life's new preferences to adjust to her childrens minds first.
And OMG yes WE ALL can have our kids grow to be ALL KINDS of people good and bad.
But to OPEN the DOOR of sexual prefrences as you grow.
LIKE other kids making fun of your parents,,name calling,and so on.
ALL because MOST THINK and FEEL that their isn't any wrong in
doing that!!
I drive a truck for my living, I have HEARD and fought with MEN who come on my CB radio and ASK to SUCK another mans peter....
THIS IS WRONG!!! And I love women,but EVEN at THAT....
I am DAMM PICKY WHO I PLACE MY MOUTH ON!
So to say that a man who wishes to do "THAT" to ANYONE is ok to raise a child,,,,"WHAT DO YOU THINK"?
Im just being REAL with what I have lived and been around to hear and see, for 30 years on the road.

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Sun 08/24/08 10:48 AM

Touchy subject, one I usually avoid. I think there are many kids in confusing situations in homes of all backgrounds, & homosexuality isn't the problem, it's a symptom. I think the greatest problem facing kids today is overpopulation. From uterus to grave it affect every aspect of life. I think the reason we have more gays appearing in society is overpopulation. This is a natural way of slowing breeding, & is seen in animals living in over crowded conditions. There are scientific studies in the chemistry of a woman's body changing when she has carried multiple boy babies, & how this affects the sexuality of future baby boys she has.

I am not sure that being raised by a gay couple is the best situation, but then how many of us have the best situation? How do you define it? The more I think about it the more confused I become. I am sure a gay couple is capable of loving & teaching as much as anyone else. Perhaps the problem is how we deal with sexuality, the importance that is placed on it & how much infiormation kids get before they are ready to deal with it.
I fully agree with all this....and THAT its the FRAME-WORK of the parents thoughts and actions that MOLD their children,,,,but IN-THAT.....I worry..:heart:

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Sun 08/24/08 10:50 AM
Edited by littleredhen on Sun 08/24/08 10:52 AM





:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


Worried about our future generations? Why? Because they're going to be more tolerant and open than the older generations? That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
A generation is just 10 years, GOD'S words have been told for 1000's of years, yet in the past 20 years WE AS A PEOPLE have NOW thought to do whatever WE WANT.
And FEEL that "THIS" new CHANGE is a "GOOD THING"?
SEE "NOW" alot of people see the same sex as desire to do, or be.
And I think OK, thats their lives and "COOL".
But when you ask of me THINKING its ok for them to raise children that they CAN'T make themselves, and adotion is their only way of having children,,I feel that the childrens out-looks will be tainted through their own observations in growing-up.
I raised three kids and their all stright, and I have seen the devastation of my daughters husbands ex-wife (of four kids) turn to being in a gay relationship after their children were from ages 14 years old down to 4 years old.
Her new family has been through alot with their real mother's change in preferences. SO I have watched their feelings and their thoughts to see first hand how it has affected them.
And THATS WHY, I thought I'd run this post,,to ask...


Straight people can raise gay children as well you know. A persons sexual orientation doesn't necessarily mean that they would be bad parents. Hell many straight people have screwed up their kids for life.

I don't mean to offend you but my take on what you are trying to day is that gay people can't not show a child what straight love is. Your children's observation growing up have nothing much to do with their sexual orientation. Many gay couples have raised loving straight children. Many straight people have raise loving gay people. It is all in how and what you teach your children. I think that most parents teach their children to be themselves, to be responsible, honest, caring people.
SO,,if I understand YOU as well?
Then a child who was raised by a drunk or an abuser or a theif
or drug addict,,,,,will not be CHANGED by what they SEE, HEAR, FEEL, or WITNESS? Is THAT what your saying?
Because I have witnessed the four year olds questions as to who his mommy's lady friend is and the rejection of his mother from
the 14 year old son...Because her new lover looks so much like a man,,HE THOUGHT she was? ALL of THIS because one MOTHER decided to do what SHE wanted NOW,,instead of adapting her life's new preferences to adjust to her childrens minds first.
And OMG yes WE ALL can have our kids grow to be ALL KINDS of people good and bad.
But to OPEN the DOOR of sexual prefrences as you grow.
LIKE other kids making fun of your parents,,name calling,and so on.
ALL because MOST THINK and FEEL that their isn't any wrong in
doing that!!
I drive a truck for my living, I have HEARD and fought with MEN who come on my CB radio and ASK to SUCK another mans peter....
THIS IS WRONG!!! And I love women,but EVEN at THAT....
I am DAMM PICKY WHO I PLACE MY MOUTH ON!
So to say that a man who wishes to do "THAT" to ANYONE is ok to raise a child,,,,"WHAT DO YOU THINK"?
Im just being REAL with what I have lived and been around to hear and see, for 30 years on the road.
noway So what if it's a woman that's doing "that"? Is the problem the act or who's doing it? I am confused.

Ummm maybe this isn't the thread to be "confused" in. Geesh what have I gotten into here?embarassed

plk1966's photo
Sun 08/24/08 10:58 AM
If you teach you children to accept people for who they are and not what they are, this would be a much better world to live in.

Parents need to be responsible for their actions and words that their children see. Children do learn from example, but as parents it is our job to ensure any situation that occurs in our children lives is a learning experience, how the parent handles it and how they teach their childrento learn from it is the parents ultimate responsibility.

Iam4u, you agreed with littleredhen about the amount of gays appearing in society today. I think that we see more gays in society because homosexuality is no longer put inthe closet and forgotten. 30-40 years ago a gay man, wouldn't openly admit he was gay. He would marry a female, have a family and live his life in quiet misery.

As a parent I wish that my children will be happy and love whoever they wish no matter the gender. After all isn't your childs happiness the most important thing in this world.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 08/24/08 11:01 AM

:heart: How many of you folks here feel that a same sex marriage
should adopt the same sex child and try to raise them with all the right values of BOTH SEXES???

In other words do YOU think two men can raise a male child to VIEW life from a normal out-look.:heart:
And or,,Two women who raise a daughter?:heart:


What's normal? I mean honestly, what's normal to millions of people is completly odd to millions other's. Do I think that a same sex couple can raise a kid with both views, yes...and they will probably end up raising a more open child.

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Sun 08/24/08 11:03 AM






:wink: OK,,,but now I ask,,,WHO,,or WHAT would THAT child "call" his parents?? Who's Mom,,,and WHO'S dad?

And just to try and THINK in THAT, simplist form,,,I find it HARD to think that their viewing of their parents affections would seem MORE NORMAL,,than a male and female couple.....
Just as most of us older people seen gay life styles as NOT normal

:heart: Im NOT bashing,,im really worried about our future generations of kids..


Worried about our future generations? Why? Because they're going to be more tolerant and open than the older generations? That would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
A generation is just 10 years, GOD'S words have been told for 1000's of years, yet in the past 20 years WE AS A PEOPLE have NOW thought to do whatever WE WANT.
And FEEL that "THIS" new CHANGE is a "GOOD THING"?
SEE "NOW" alot of people see the same sex as desire to do, or be.
And I think OK, thats their lives and "COOL".
But when you ask of me THINKING its ok for them to raise children that they CAN'T make themselves, and adotion is their only way of having children,,I feel that the childrens out-looks will be tainted through their own observations in growing-up.
I raised three kids and their all stright, and I have seen the devastation of my daughters husbands ex-wife (of four kids) turn to being in a gay relationship after their children were from ages 14 years old down to 4 years old.
Her new family has been through alot with their real mother's change in preferences. SO I have watched their feelings and their thoughts to see first hand how it has affected them.
And THATS WHY, I thought I'd run this post,,to ask...


Straight people can raise gay children as well you know. A persons sexual orientation doesn't necessarily mean that they would be bad parents. Hell many straight people have screwed up their kids for life.

I don't mean to offend you but my take on what you are trying to day is that gay people can't not show a child what straight love is. Your children's observation growing up have nothing much to do with their sexual orientation. Many gay couples have raised loving straight children. Many straight people have raise loving gay people. It is all in how and what you teach your children. I think that most parents teach their children to be themselves, to be responsible, honest, caring people.
SO,,if I understand YOU as well?
Then a child who was raised by a drunk or an abuser or a theif
or drug addict,,,,,will not be CHANGED by what they SEE, HEAR, FEEL, or WITNESS? Is THAT what your saying?
Because I have witnessed the four year olds questions as to who his mommy's lady friend is and the rejection of his mother from
the 14 year old son...Because her new lover looks so much like a man,,HE THOUGHT she was? ALL of THIS because one MOTHER decided to do what SHE wanted NOW,,instead of adapting her life's new preferences to adjust to her childrens minds first.
And OMG yes WE ALL can have our kids grow to be ALL KINDS of people good and bad.
But to OPEN the DOOR of sexual prefrences as you grow.
LIKE other kids making fun of your parents,,name calling,and so on.
ALL because MOST THINK and FEEL that their isn't any wrong in
doing that!!
I drive a truck for my living, I have HEARD and fought with MEN who come on my CB radio and ASK to SUCK another mans peter....
THIS IS WRONG!!! And I love women,but EVEN at THAT....
I am DAMM PICKY WHO I PLACE MY MOUTH ON!
So to say that a man who wishes to do "THAT" to ANYONE is ok to raise a child,,,,"WHAT DO YOU THINK"?
Im just being REAL with what I have lived and been around to hear and see, for 30 years on the road.
noway So what if it's a woman that's doing "that"? Is the problem the act or who's doing it? I am confused.

Ummm maybe this isn't the thread to be "confused" in. Geesh what have I gotten into here?embarassed
My rebutle was to PLK,,Miss Hen,,not to you,wink..
BUT to your thoughts,,,at least a women,(hooker) WORKS doing that for money and though I don't use either one gay or hooker,,,I don't like ether of them on the road,,,but to ME..
THIS is just MY OWN FEELINGS,,no man should feel a DESIRE to
do this to JUST ANYONE....NOR a woman to another woman just ANYONE. If I FELT a NEED to go around doing THAT to just ANY LADY,,,and ASKING THEM STRANGERS if I could,,,,I feel I would NEED SOME MENTAL HELP. But THIS is only my thoughts of this,wink....:heart: :wink:

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Sun 08/24/08 11:11 AM

If you teach you children to accept people for who they are and not what they are, this would be a much better world to live in.

Parents need to be responsible for their actions and words that their children see. Children do learn from example, but as parents it is our job to ensure any situation that occurs in our children lives is a learning experience, how the parent handles it and how they teach their childrento learn from it is the parents ultimate responsibility.

Iam4u, you agreed with littleredhen about the amount of gays appearing in society today. I think that we see more gays in society because homosexuality is no longer put inthe closet and forgotten. 30-40 years ago a gay man, wouldn't openly admit he was gay. He would marry a female, have a family and live his life in quiet misery.

As a parent I wish that my children will be happy and love whoever they wish no matter the gender. After all isn't your childs happiness the most important thing in this world.
YES it is, but also their children...so I always TRY to guide and see things through both lights..
This subject is still a new transition with-in many states.
I was just wondering what MOST FOLKS thoughts were to this.
My o pion, is just THAT! And I don't ask for acceptance
just ideas as to the reactions caused by the question. wink.

izzie's photo
Sun 08/24/08 11:12 AM
ok.. just a small thought here...
i wont be offering up my opinion on this one.. as i dont have ont yet.. this is somethin i wanna think about before i offer an opinion..


it was most of the time strait parents that brought up the gay child... so why would you think that a gay parent would have a problem raising a strait child??


this is just a question.

plk1966's photo
Sun 08/24/08 11:23 AM
IAM4U, I agree to disagree. Everyone is entitled to their opinions whether they differ from mine or not.

It just irratates me sometimes when people think because someone is gay, they wouldn't be a great parent. The same way that in divorces many believe that the children should be with the mother not the father. My opinion the children should be with the better parent.