Topic: LET'S FIGHT.
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Sun 08/24/08 11:25 AM

ok.. just a small thought here...
i wont be offering up my opinion on this one.. as i dont have ont yet.. this is somethin i wanna think about before i offer an opinion..


it was most of the time strait parents that brought up the gay child... so why would you think that a gay parent would have a problem raising a strait child??


this is just a question.

I've questioned many gay people and MOST were sexually abused by a family member at a young age.
NOW,,hearing this first-hand from a gay man,,,THAT in it's self disturbs me greatly!
NO,,,I did NOT SAY "ALL" WERE,,,,,lol,ok,,,JUST alot of the ones who I have asked or talked to..
So in thought, THEM MEN learned to be GAY, through an insane adult.....and in stead of getting the proper attention at THAT time it was sweeped away or hidden by them because of shame.
So looking NOW at life through their minds,,,what REAL chance
did they have to feel a NON-ABUSIVE life?:heart:

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Sun 08/24/08 11:30 AM
Hmmmmm I can see that this is going to develope into a fight now, & noting the topic headline, I am out of this thread.

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Sun 08/24/08 11:31 AM

IAM4U, I agree to disagree. Everyone is entitled to their opinions whether they differ from mine or not.

It just irratates me sometimes when people think because someone is gay, they wouldn't be a great parent. The same way that in divorces many believe that the children should be with the mother not the father. My opinion the children should be with the better parent.
:heart: bigsmile YOU are entitled to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you want to here,wink..

Now as for children and which parent to be with,,,,,,lol,
THATS another story......lol
I do feel that """"ALOT"""" of parents SHOW lack of reasoning as to breaking-up before their kids fully grow-up to like 17 or 18.
In other words,,MANY parents I have known will MESS-AROUND on their other half,,and NEVER THINK FIRST about the effects of their actions if found out,,,,in their childrens minds....
SO A PERSON is no-longer HAPPY in their marraige,,,then GET A DIVORCE,,,,THEN FIND A LOVER,,,not FIND ONE FIRST,,and ALL that MIGHT go alone with it BEFORE you divorce....wink.:heart:

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Sun 08/24/08 11:32 AM

Hmmmmm I can see that this is going to develope into a fight now, & noting the topic headline, I am out of this thread.
noway ????
Not by MY key strokes,lol:wink: :heart: drinker

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Sun 08/24/08 12:23 PM


Hmmmmm I can see that this is going to develope into a fight now, & noting the topic headline, I am out of this thread.
noway ????
Not by MY key strokes,lol:wink: :heart: drinker

No fighting here, just discussing our opinionsflowerforyou

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Sun 08/24/08 12:28 PM



Hmmmmm I can see that this is going to develope into a fight now, & noting the topic headline, I am out of this thread.
noway ????
Not by MY key strokes,lol:wink: :heart: drinker

No fighting here, just discussing our opinionsflowerforyou
Thank You PLK, My thoughts too,,wink..loldrinker

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Sun 08/24/08 02:58 PM


ok.. just a small thought here...
i wont be offering up my opinion on this one.. as i dont have ont yet.. this is somethin i wanna think about before i offer an opinion..


it was most of the time strait parents that brought up the gay child... so why would you think that a gay parent would have a problem raising a strait child??


this is just a question.

I've questioned many gay people and MOST were sexually abused by a family member at a young age.
NOW,,hearing this first-hand from a gay man,,,THAT in it's self disturbs me greatly!
NO,,,I did NOT SAY "ALL" WERE,,,,,lol,ok,,,JUST alot of the ones who I have asked or talked to..
So in thought, THEM MEN learned to be GAY, through an insane adult.....and in stead of getting the proper attention at THAT time it was sweeped away or hidden by them because of shame.
So looking NOW at life through their minds,,,what REAL chance
did they have to feel a NON-ABUSIVE life?:heart:


wow...

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Sun 08/24/08 04:03 PM

devil I think 2 hot lesbians should adopt medevil


How about one hot girl who kisses other girls when drinking tequilla?

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Sun 08/24/08 04:13 PM
why do so many people focus on the parents for this topic? I went to school with a guy who had lesbian parents and wether or not it was right or wrong is irrelevant when it comes to how bad it mixed him up as a kid. Not to mention what the poor guy went through when his friends found out about his "moms". Yup, you guessed it, he ran away from home about a thousand times, battled substance, spent time in jail, and tried to commit suicide! I believe that people have a right to exist as they are but where children are concerned, its not about whats best or what should be allowed for the parents. To many people overlook what effect it has on kids!

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Sun 08/24/08 04:16 PM

why do so many people focus on the parents for this topic? I went to school with a guy who had lesbian parents and wether or not it was right or wrong is irrelevant when it comes to how bad it mixed him up as a kid. Not to mention what the poor guy went through when his friends found out about his "moms". Yup, you guessed it, he ran away from home about a thousand times, battled substance, spent time in jail, and tried to commit suicide! I believe that people have a right to exist as they are but where children are concerned, its not about whats best or what should be allowed for the parents. To many people overlook what effect it has on kids!


Didn't they say that about divorced parents in the 50's too, but now it's not so bad.... Your friend was screwed up, and whomever his mothers loved had nothing to do with it... It was his own insecurities, and his own addiction problems, not his moms....

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Sun 08/24/08 04:22 PM

why do so many people focus on the parents for this topic? I went to school with a guy who had lesbian parents and wether or not it was right or wrong is irrelevant when it comes to how bad it mixed him up as a kid. Not to mention what the poor guy went through when his friends found out about his "moms". Yup, you guessed it, he ran away from home about a thousand times, battled substance, spent time in jail, and tried to commit suicide! I believe that people have a right to exist as they are but where children are concerned, its not about whats best or what should be allowed for the parents. To many people overlook what effect it has on kids!
I know people from traditional households who have the same problems.

Who are we gonna blame that on?

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Sun 08/24/08 04:24 PM

why do so many people focus on the parents for this topic? I went to school with a guy who had lesbian parents and wether or not it was right or wrong is irrelevant when it comes to how bad it mixed him up as a kid. Not to mention what the poor guy went through when his friends found out about his "moms". Yup, you guessed it, he ran away from home about a thousand times, battled substance, spent time in jail, and tried to commit suicide! I believe that people have a right to exist as they are but where children are concerned, its not about whats best or what should be allowed for the parents. To many people overlook what effect it has on kids!
Thank you for your views here as they run with my own..

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Sun 08/24/08 04:25 PM

I......oops...wrong room...look at the time:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:


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Sun 08/24/08 04:26 PM


why do so many people focus on the parents for this topic? I went to school with a guy who had lesbian parents and wether or not it was right or wrong is irrelevant when it comes to how bad it mixed him up as a kid. Not to mention what the poor guy went through when his friends found out about his "moms". Yup, you guessed it, he ran away from home about a thousand times, battled substance, spent time in jail, and tried to commit suicide! I believe that people have a right to exist as they are but where children are concerned, its not about whats best or what should be allowed for the parents. To many people overlook what effect it has on kids!
Thank you for your views here as they run with my own..
Well of course because no one from a traditional household has ever grown up and had problems.

If only it were that simple.

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Sun 08/24/08 04:31 PM

why do so many people focus on the parents for this topic? I went to school with a guy who had lesbian parents and wether or not it was right or wrong is irrelevant when it comes to how bad it mixed him up as a kid. Not to mention what the poor guy went through when his friends found out about his "moms". Yup, you guessed it, he ran away from home about a thousand times, battled substance, spent time in jail, and tried to commit suicide! I believe that people have a right to exist as they are but where children are concerned, its not about whats best or what should be allowed for the parents. To many people overlook what effect it has on kids!


So if I am getting what you mean, all drug addicts, runaways, and ex con's were raised by gays? shocked what shocked

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Sun 08/24/08 04:33 PM
I'm so tired of people blaming everyone else for their own insanity... GROW THE F8CK UP, DEAL WITH YOUR ISSUES AND BE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY.

My parents did a good job raising me and my 3 brothers, we weren't rich and we grew up on a farm, I have a brother who is a retired police officer, one that is studying to be a preist, and me (whatever it is that I am) and one that is an active alcoholic, he makes up stories about my parents (both are deceased now) Yes, my parents made mistakes, but they loved us, and we never went hungry or unclothed and we were NEVER beaten....but the way he tells it, he was a poor mistreated child..... Addiction is a disease, and if someone is an addict or can't handle their own issues, it's their problem not anyone else's...

I know a guy from Turkey who's father stole and his (the child's) toe was cut off because of it, he was a DM for a company I used to work for, (now out of business) he started his own company has a BEAUTIFUL wife who is a Ford model and 2 gorgeous children, he should be pissed but he isn't....

"Oh my parents are gay, I'm so screwed up...blah blah blah"... Get over it.

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Sun 08/24/08 04:37 PM

I'm so tired of people blaming everyone else for their own insanity... GROW THE F8CK UP, DEAL WITH YOUR ISSUES AND BE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY.

My parents did a good job raising me and my 3 brothers, we weren't rich and we grew up on a farm, I have a brother who is a retired police officer, one that is studying to be a preist, and me (whatever it is that I am) and one that is an active alcoholic, he makes up stories about my parents (both are deceased now) Yes, my parents made mistakes, but they loved us, and we never went hungry or unclothed and we were NEVER beaten....but the way he tells it, he was a poor mistreated child..... Addiction is a disease, and if someone is an addict or can't handle their own issues, it's their problem not anyone else's...

I know a guy from Turkey who's father stole and his (the child's) toe was cut off because of it, he was a DM for a company I used to work for, (now out of business) he started his own company has a BEAUTIFUL wife who is a Ford model and 2 gorgeous children, he should be pissed but he isn't....

"Oh my parents are gay, I'm so screwed up...blah blah blah"... Get over it.
Do you need someone to talk to?
You seem to have alot of anger in you today.
I can TALK about anything,,but I HATE to fight or yell if its just in our own THOUGHTS as to any out-comes of thinking about life..:heart: flowerforyou :wink:

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Sun 08/24/08 04:39 PM


I'm so tired of people blaming everyone else for their own insanity... GROW THE F8CK UP, DEAL WITH YOUR ISSUES AND BE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY.

My parents did a good job raising me and my 3 brothers, we weren't rich and we grew up on a farm, I have a brother who is a retired police officer, one that is studying to be a preist, and me (whatever it is that I am) and one that is an active alcoholic, he makes up stories about my parents (both are deceased now) Yes, my parents made mistakes, but they loved us, and we never went hungry or unclothed and we were NEVER beaten....but the way he tells it, he was a poor mistreated child..... Addiction is a disease, and if someone is an addict or can't handle their own issues, it's their problem not anyone else's...

I know a guy from Turkey who's father stole and his (the child's) toe was cut off because of it, he was a DM for a company I used to work for, (now out of business) he started his own company has a BEAUTIFUL wife who is a Ford model and 2 gorgeous children, he should be pissed but he isn't....

"Oh my parents are gay, I'm so screwed up...blah blah blah"... Get over it.
Do you need someone to talk to?
You seem to have alot of anger in you today.
I can TALK about anything,,but I HATE to fight or yell if its just in our own THOUGHTS as to any out-comes of thinking about life..:heart: flowerforyou :wink:


I'm not fighting with anyone, and if you don't think gay couples should adopt then if you are gay, don't adopt... but don't blame a gay couple for someone else's issues....

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Sun 08/24/08 04:47 PM
My son had a friend who at 14 he took his own life,,We had talked from time to time but NEVER about his parents or his personal life,(his mom was gay and lived with her lover). Now what was in his mind I don't know,why she allowed him to have and shoot w/o supervision,,I don't know?
I just know he was VERY to him self and she seemed very nice and caring. But he is not here to tell us what he felt?
And i'm NOT saying that he done it because of THEM being GAY,,its just an unanswered story that I personally always wondered about.
Parents can be perfect in all ways and still have their children do, and be ANYTHING,,,All im saying is DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT GAY PARENTS LIFE STYLES DO NOT INFLUENCE THEIR CHILDREN TO SEE GAY LIFE A "BETTER" LIFE THAN A STRAIGHT LIFE!
And this is JUST talking about all the what if's and our own thoughts of tomorrow's adults...:heart:

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Sun 08/24/08 04:57 PM

My son had a friend who at 14 he took his own life,,We had talked from time to time but NEVER about his parents or his personal life,(his mom was gay and lived with her lover). Now what was in his mind I don't know,why she allowed him to have and shoot w/o supervision,,I don't know?
I just know he was VERY to him self and she seemed very nice and caring. But he is not here to tell us what he felt?
And i'm NOT saying that he done it because of THEM being GAY,,its just an unanswered story that I personally always wondered about.
Parents can be perfect in all ways and still have their children do, and be ANYTHING,,,All im saying is DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT GAY PARENTS LIFE STYLES DO NOT INFLUENCE THEIR CHILDREN TO SEE GAY LIFE A "BETTER" LIFE THAN A STRAIGHT LIFE!
And this is JUST talking about all the what if's and our own thoughts of tomorrow's adults...:heart:


You are correct, we DON'T know, and who his mother loved is not a factor in his demise... It could be poor parenting, it could be lack of interest in the child, it could be a million things, but to say it was or even to infer that it was because his mom liked women over men in a relationship is purely upserd...

I wish there were statistics to see how many teen suicides happened in families of same sex parents vs traditional marriages...Cuz I'd be willing to bet that statistically it's the same or tipped to the traditional side.... I'm saying percentile here, I know there is only like what 10% of the population that is gay.

If you're screwed up, you're screwed up, and there is no one to blame but yourself... if you can't handle life, go see a shrink... if you don't... then you are asking for a life of doom.