I could take a stab but he wants the folks that support the global flood theory to answer understandably. I feel like the annoying kid in class who’s always waving her arm to answer the questions. Those kind of kids always get beat up as soon as the bell rings.

I wonder does god stand behind his own theories?

be my guest K, no problem - figure out how many cubic gallons of water it would take to cover the entire earth surface to a depth of 30,000 ft, then how long it would take to evaporate that amount of water away, at a speed of evaporation at normal temps and wind current or if you like, you can use higher ones as long as you state what they are? then figure how much of the evaporate the atmosphere could hold before it would induce rain to precipitate once again. you can take into account basic ground water absorbtion also if you like and keep in perspective ground saturation points also. thnx

hmmm??

now even krimsa's not replying -

I got my Ark ready for 2012!

I got my Ark ready for 2012!

does having an ardv-ARK count?

Sorry - Red Sox playing the Yankee's in the Bronx.
I "stepped out for a mo...

Hey - a man has to have some diversions. Sox won by the way. Now where were we?...

Okay - so, what you are asking me to do is assume that the formation of the earth was exactly the way it is now before the rains came - am I right on this? I mean - what if Mount Arafat were 50,000 feet before the flood? Does it say how high Arafat was in the bible before the flood? (I honestly don't know) If it were 50,000 feet whe'd shrug ours shoulders, say Ahhh... and move onto the next conundrum.

Now it does say that "The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of 150 days the water had gone down, and on the 17th day of the 7th month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat. The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the 1st day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visable. (Gen 8: 3-5)

Then, another 40 days - then 7 days, then another 7 days, and the dove was gone. So - over 200 days - anyway. It doesn't say where it receded to - just that it did. I'm pretty sure a lot of it ended up in the North & South poles. Lots and lots of Ice up there. Wasn't it All Gore who said they're going to melt and flood the earth again? He must have - we gave him a Nobel prize and an Oscar for his prophesies, and probably a new car as well. I know - let's make him the president!

As to how much it rained in 40 days - seems to me he filled the oceans and seas with water in less than a day, did he not? Imagine what He could have done in 40!

Nope - they don't exist.

Now an AArdv-ark on the other hand....

now see that's the problem larry, the other hand! i'm left handed and your right handed.

that also counts mine has a entertainment center in it also a bar!

Well - actually, I'm left handed.

At least we can both admit we're abusive spellers.

So then your stating or believe that he suspended all laws of science we now hold true to perform this feat correct? such as the fact that today the reason why we have a constant amount of water is the cycling of water to water vapor which produces clouds that again become rain in a never ending cycle that keeps the water of the world constant correct?

your meaning of "recede" i to presume is to be taken as meaning - withdraw, diminish, decrease, retreat, correct? which also means a miricle since it happened so quickly as comparedd to normal evaporation would take place as to that amount of water right?

the oceans and seas were overflowing by a mile or so deep and and it just receded to where ever
just disappeared right? Concidering water just doesn't disappear then it has to be a miracle.

then this by far beats any others spoken of, the parting of the seas, the plagues, the raising of the dead, beats em all. Your faith is amazing i will say that - no more questions on this subject for me eljay, i couldn't begin to have one quintillionth of the faith you have.

And why shouldn't we have faith in a God who can do those things?

did i say you shouldn't??

Do we have a "constant amount" of water recycling through evaporation and rainfall? I'm not so sure we do. I'm sure we have no means of proving whether we do or not - however, I do know that there is a chemical breakdown of water into oxygen and Hydrogen when acted upon by heat. Some of the water is regenerated into steam - which condenses again back into water - and some of it breaks down into it's basic elements. I know this as an absolute fact - It was my science experiment in the 5th grade. (I got to light the hydrogen with a match - which nearly got me suspended. Man that stuff is volatile.) So - while I realize that there needed to be an awful lot of evaporating going on - it was not the only option available in getting rid of the water.



I don't mean anything by it - I just quoted the scripture. I do - however assume it means the same thing that you do. I'm not about finding new meanings to words. I'm not sure what would be considered "normal" evaporation over a 200 day period. But I would say that it is quite likely
that it was a miricle for this to have occured. I'd say raining enough water to cover the entire earth above all the mountain tops would suffice as a miricle as well.



When I see the images of the floods in the midwest raising to the roofs of houses - I find that pretty hard to believe as well. Hey - I live in the mountains. That's just not happening where I live. But - there it was, right there on my TV. Naturally - the flood is not something we can recreate in order to verify what happened to all that water. I don't have a good explination as to where it all came from in the first place.
Are we to contend that the flood didn't occur because it was - a miricle? Since we've no means to prove it - it has to remain a faith based occurance. I think that just goes without saying.



Oh no. Raising from the dead after three days. Nothing beats that. This can certainly be attempted through experimentation - and always doomed to fail. Being born of a virgin. Right there - impossible to prove. It's just not going to happen again. But I've seen the damage that can be done to an area after just a week of rain, and I've seen it rain in "buckets< - so much so, that visibility was no farther than my nose.

Anyway... I'll leave this now. Seems we've exhausted ourselves on this one.

Onwards and forwards Sancho! We've windmills to conquer. Where's Aldonza?

your right eljay,

not much else to explore there

so back to genisis 1,2,3, i will go -