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Edited by
Johncenawlife316
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She should have first and for most been taught to walk away in any type of self defended type of class. When I was younger and took a different type of class the first and most thing they taught me was walk away first if that can be done at all best. It seem's your daughter is just at much fault as this boy, if not more. I mean what would you say if your daughter school called and they told you she killed this boy who was just playing around and just so happened to pinched her. If your reaction is the same then maybe your daughter shouldn't be going to school or learning MMA in the first place. Bottom line school is meant for learning as every body knows and your daughter was not in the right, either was this boy. Either way she was in the more wrong since this boy could have been more serious hurt and you could get sued and all for injurys etc. This is crazy and no body was really in the right here. Wow, you are SOOOO far off base here. I don't condone hitting in the slightest, but that little girl needed to teach that little punk his place. She was more in the wrong... how is a little kid pinching azz more right?? I'll buy her ice cream as I explain that hitting is wrong. Instead of embarrasing him physically she should embarras him emotionally from now on. It hurts more, and has more of a lasting effect. Neither kid was in the right as I had stated prevely. Plus She could have serious injured this boy just because he pinched her butt. Again neither party was in the right, however her daughter could have serious injured this boy by doing what she did to him over a simple pinched. Sure once again I'll say this neither party was right for doing what they did. OK, but she could have NIGHTMARES for weeks over this. Emotionally it could REALLY HURT HER!! She could hurt herself durring these nightmares she MAY very well have. Okay I just read you said your daughter was SEXUALLY ABUSED when growning up. I am sorry to hear that. Maybe she should be seeing a doctor for help if she isn't already doing so.  |
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DISCUSSION OVER!!!
TRUCE! I STAND BY HER. THATS THAT. NUFF SAID. |
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She should have first and for most been taught to walk away in any type of self defended type of class. When I was younger and took a different type of class the first and most thing they taught me was walk away first if that can be done at all best. It seem's your daughter is just at much fault as this boy, if not more. I mean what would you say if your daughter school called and they told you she killed this boy who was just playing around and just so happened to pinched her. If your reaction is the same then maybe your daughter shouldn't be going to school or learning MMA in the first place. Bottom line school is meant for learning as every body knows and your daughter was not in the right, either was this boy. Either way she was in the more wrong since this boy could have been more serious hurt and you could get sued and all for injurys etc. This is crazy and no body was really in the right here. Wow, you are SOOOO far off base here. I don't condone hitting in the slightest, but that little girl needed to teach that little punk his place. She was more in the wrong... how is a little kid pinching azz more right?? I'll buy her ice cream as I explain that hitting is wrong. Instead of embarrasing him physically she should embarras him emotionally from now on. It hurts more, and has more of a lasting effect. Neither kid was in the right as I had stated prevely. Plus She could have serious injured this boy just because he pinched her butt. Again neither party was in the right, however her daughter could have serious injured this boy by doing what she did to him over a simple pinched. Sure once again I'll say this neither party was right for doing what they did. OK, but she could have NIGHTMARES for weeks over this. Emotionally it could REALLY HURT HER!! She could hurt herself durring these nightmares she MAY very well have. Okay I just read you said your daughter was SEXUALLY ABUSED when growning up. I am sorry to hear that. Maybe she should be seeing a doctor for help if she isn't already doing so. SHE DOES EACH WEEK . THANK GOD FOR THAT! IT HAS HELPED A LOT! |
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The point is...."When in Rome"....
I teach my kid to follow school rules. Whether I agree or not. If I disagree, then I can home school. The fact is, I respect that the schools do what they have to do for the masses, and to protect themselves. I don't trust that my child should have to be involved in discussions further than that. He broke a rule. He got in trouble. Period. |
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Interesting to see people NEVER married, no kids, may not really understand the TRAMA abuse can cause a child; saying how this should be handled.
Understand it is THEIR OPINION, but it makes a big differance when it is your child & you are trying to help them overcome a MAJOR problem, in their head, from TEIR past. Been there, done that & I can understand why she struck out as she did. RIGHT or WRONG. Also know a good attorney would get her off if necc. SEXUAL child abuse leaves VERY deep scars, that stay ALL their life. Walk a mile in her moccasins. My wife lived to 52 & still had nightmares. |
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Interesting to see people NEVER married, no kids, may not really understand the TRAMA abuse can cause a child; saying how this should be handled. Understand it is THEIR OPINION, but it makes a big differance when it is your child & you are trying to help them overcome a MAJOR problem, in their head, from TEIR past. Been there, done that & I can understand why she struck out as she did. RIGHT or WRONG. Also know a good attorney would get her off if necc. SEXUAL child abuse leaves VERY deep scars, that stay ALL their life. Wlak a mile in her moccasins.
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She should have first and for most been taught to walk away in any type of self defended type of class. When I was younger and took a different type of class the first and most thing they taught me was walk away first if that can be done at all best. It seem's your daughter is just at much fault as this boy, if not more. I mean what would you say if your daughter school called and they told you she killed this boy who was just playing around and just so happened to pinched her. If your reaction is the same then maybe your daughter shouldn't be going to school or learning MMA in the first place. Bottom line school is meant for learning as every body knows and your daughter was not in the right, either was this boy. Either way she was in the more wrong since this boy could have been more serious hurt and you could get sued and all for injurys etc. This is crazy and no body was really in the right here. Wow, you are SOOOO far off base here. I don't condone hitting in the slightest, but that little girl needed to teach that little punk his place. She was more in the wrong... how is a little kid pinching azz more right?? I'll buy her ice cream as I explain that hitting is wrong. Instead of embarrasing him physically she should embarras him emotionally from now on. It hurts more, and has more of a lasting effect. Neither kid was in the right as I had stated prevely. Plus She could have serious injured this boy just because he pinched her butt. Again neither party was in the right, however her daughter could have serious injured this boy by doing what she did to him over a simple pinched. Sure once again I'll say this neither party was right for doing what they did. OK, but she could have NIGHTMARES for weeks over this. Emotionally it could REALLY HURT HER!! She could hurt herself durring these nightmares she MAY very well have. Okay I just read you said your daughter was SEXUALLY ABUSED when growning up. I am sorry to hear that. Maybe she should be seeing a doctor for help if she isn't already doing so. SHE DOES EACH WEEK . THANK GOD FOR THAT! IT HAS HELPED A LOT! Okay. Again sorry for everything. Best of luck to your family.
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Interesting to see people NEVER married, no kids, may not really understand the TRAMA abuse can cause a child; saying how this should be handled. Understand it is THEIR OPINION, but it makes a big differance when it is your child & you are trying to help them overcome a MAJOR problem, in their head, from TEIR past. Been there, done that & I can understand why she struck out as she did. RIGHT or WRONG. Also know a good attorney would get her off if necc. SEXUAL child abuse leaves VERY deep scars, that stay ALL their life. Walk a mile in her moccasins. My wife lived to 52 & still had nightmares. <-------- My NEW JSH DAD! 
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OK so gotta go to the school now. Thanks all !!
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DISCUSSION OVER!!! TRUCE! I STAND BY HER. THATS THAT. NUFF SAID. I support you on this 110%. If for whatever reason our paths cross, I'ma buy her an ice cream cone. |
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NO, not dad.
Just an "old sage' that has walked in alot of moccasins. More knowledge than I can stand sometimes. This one brings me to tears. God Bless & Protect our children. Child molestation should be a hanging offense. MY OPINION. I will trip the gate. Banana slpit here. |
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hi
to those of you who have never been sexually abused as a child, you DON'T know how deeply it affects you!! i say the  with you!!!! i do agree she should not have hit him in the throat. but do you truely understand what went through her mind? i can feel for her deeply. to this day i can't stand anyone sneaking up behind me. it scares the HECK out of me. that is to put is politely at best. takes me long time to get calmed down. it was so WRONG for him not to get in trouble. i would demand he get in trouble too. to my way of thinking the school is telling him it is ok to pinch anyone he wants and it is ok. yes, she needs to know not to go for the throat unless she is really threatened. but she probably did feel threatened given her abuse. give her a break. i know how schools punished the victim more than the abuser. i have seen it with my granddaughter. mom should go after the school, calming as possible, to see to it that he is punished to. just because he is abused by his parents doesn;t mean it is ok for him to abuse. children of abuse need to learn somewhere that it is wrong to abuse others. i truely feel for this boy, i do. but if he is not taught it if wrong now, as he grows up it won't be just a rump he goes after. if you see him being abused you need to report it ASAP!!! he needs someone to intervene now. i came upon a little boy is a locked car at the store in the winter. he was chewing on a bottle of fuel additive. you bet i called the police. the mom came out and started to raise heck saying she was in there only 5 min. it took police longer than that to get there. when she was showed the additive bottle she shut up fast. that child could have gotten very sick or died if i hadn't got involved. it was scary for me, but to this day i thank god i did. yes, children must be taught the right way to defend themselves, but they must be taught. abuse is abuse no matter what age the abuser is. so mom fight for your daughter and teach her the right way to defend herself from other children. you go, mom, take care of her the way you feel is best. abused children need all the help they can get. |
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 thank you for your views. though personally hanging is to fast. my idea of the perfect death is staked to anthill doused in honey. violent yes. but then as an abused child my ideas tend to want to inflict as much pain on these predators as possible. the scars still run very deep.
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thank you for your views. though personally hanging is to fast. my idea of the perfect death is staked to anthill doused in honey. violent yes. but then as an abused child my ideas tend to want to inflict as much pain on these predators as possible. the scars still run very deep. Yes I too have been thru sexual abuse. I think that is why she and I connected. All I ever wanted was to be loved... the right way. Thats all she ever wanted and needed. "Lord knows I lus Harpo, but I kill em dead foe I let him beat me." Hugs to you Summer! |
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DISCUSSION OVER!!! TRUCE! I STAND BY HER. THATS THAT. NUFF SAID. I support you on this 110%. If for whatever reason our paths cross, I'ma buy her an ice cream cone. Awww.... thank you! |
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There is a differance between justice & vengance.
Don't lower your self to that level. JUSTICE is enough. |
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 This kind of stuff makes a person not want to have kids.
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Well my take on this is I always told my kids never to start a fight. But if they were honest with me and told me the truth and if another hit them first that as far as I was concerned had ever right to defend themselves.
Now what happen with my son was he was playing football mind you no coach was in the locker room as there was suppose to be. This was in middle school one night after a football game. One of the kids came up to him started kicking his gear around he did not do anything but get his gear and put it up. He left the locker room and was walking across the school grounds in the back of the school. The kid that started it told his twin brother my son was messing with him instead the other brother came jumped on my son from behind. Well my son then gave them back what he deserved. The boys went home and told their mother my son started it for they had to account for their black eye ect... The mother proceeded to call the school the next day wanted my son expelled. I went in and talked to the Principal about the incident. Yes my son broke the rules I did agree with that but the Principal also agreed with me that he did not blame my son for defending himself. But in the long run the other two boys also were expelled. They also waved the $150.00 fine the police department normal charges. I explained to my son that regardless of the actions and I did back him for defending himself he still broke the school rules and had to be expelled also. But regardless the other little boy should not have pinched her either and he should also be expelled for his actions as well. Sorry I would have to go talk to the Principal and explain what happen and have them give you reasons for not expelling the other child as well. Regardless stand behind her for defending herself but try to explain why things happened as they did and the actions the little boy took. I’m sure it will not be easy to explain to a child in this situation. |
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Edited by
JusWannaSayHi
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Mon 08/11/08 01:14 PM
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*******************UPDATE*********************
Went to school where my daughter sat in office crying. I walked in and she RUNS to me screaming, " Mommy, He touched my bad place like my old dad did!" We then walked into the priciples office. My daughter kept interupting saying her rump hurt. I asked her if mommy could judt look to see if there was a bruse. OMG!!!!! THERE WERE F*#@!ing 6 bruses on her rump!!! 3 were as big as half dollars! The other three were smaller . THEY ARE BLACK!!! Well, I WENT CRAZY UP IN THERE! TRY TO PUNISH MY DAUGHTER FOR PROTECTING HERSELF! She said she told him to stop the first time and he laughed. She then told the principle and I both that she told the teacher when this happened , but was told it was not good to be a tattle tale! GOES TO SHOW THAT EVEN WHEN YOUR RIGHT ABOUT TELLING THE TEACHERS SOME JUST DON'T GIVE A ST!T! THIS HAPPENED ON THE PLAY GROUND! THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THE LITTLE BOY HAS DONE THIS. PRINCIPLE STATES THEY HAD PLENTY OF PROBS WITH HE AND HIS FAMILY LAST YEAR OVER THIS TYPE OF STUFF!!! SO JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHO MAY HAVE BEEN CONCERNED OR JUST WANTED TO BASH HER FOR WHAT SHE DID....... SHE WAS 100% IN THE RIGHT! BY THE WAY ... I ASKED HER PSYC AND HER MARTIAL ARTS INSTRUCTER TO MEET ME THERE AND SO THEY DID. TOMORROW I WILL GO TO THE COURT HOUSE TO FILE CHARGES ON NOT ONLY THE SCHOOL, BUT THE TEACHER AS WELL.!  I ask those of you who were stating that Martial Arts should not be used in this way... If the teacher won't help her and she is feeling THREATENED, is this still wrong in your eyes? |
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*******************UPDATE********************* Went to school where my daughter sat in office crying. I walked in and she RUNS to me screaming, " Mommy, He touched my bad place like my old dad did!" We then walked into the priciples office. My daughter kept interupting saying her rump hurt. I asked her if mommy could judt look to see if there was a bruse. OMG!!!!! THERE WERE F*#@!ing 6 bruses on her rump!!! 3 were as big as half dollars! The other three were smaller . THEY ARE BLACK!!! Well, I WENT CRAZY UP IN THERE! TRY TO PUNISH MY DAUGHTER FOR PROTECTING HERSELF! She said she told him to stop the first time and he laughed. She then told the principle and I both that she told the teacher when this happened , but was told it was not good to be a tattle tale! GOES TO SHOW THAT EVEN WHEN YOUR RIGHT ABOUT TELLING THE TEACHERS SOME JUST DON'T GIVE A ST!T! THIS HAPPENED ON THE PLAY GROUND! THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THE LITTLE BOY HAS DONE THIS. PRINCIPLE STATES THEY HAD PLENTY OF PROBS WITH HE AND HIS FAMILY LAST YEAR OVER THIS TYPE OF STUFF!!! SO JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHO MAY HAVE BEEN CONCERNED OR JUST WANTED TO BASH HER FOR WHAT SHE DID....... SHE WAS 100% IN THE RIGHT! BY THE WAY ... I ASKED HER PSYC AND HER MARTIAL ARTS INSTRUCTER TO MEET ME THERE AND SO THEY DID. TOMORROW I WILL GO TO THE COURT HOUSE TO FILE CHARGES ON NOT ONLY THE SCHOOL, BUT THE TEACHER AS WELL.! Good luck to you and your daughter
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