Topic: Throw down
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Sat 08/09/08 04:25 PM
A man must not divorce a woman he married after having raped her. (Deuteronomy 22:29)
359.


I feel very sorry for that woman. He rapes her, then marries her and... now he can't divorce her.

These laws are written for men, not for women. Another example of the poor way women were treated as property not human beings.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 08/09/08 04:25 PM

"You Raise Me Up"

When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then, I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

There is no life - no life without its hunger;
Each restless heart beats so imperfectly;
But when you come and I am filled with wonder,
Sometimes, I think I glimpse eternity.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up... To more than I can be.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 08/09/08 04:26 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Sat 08/09/08 04:27 PM

A man must not divorce a woman he married after having raped her. (Deuteronomy 22:29)
359.


I feel very sorry for that woman. He rapes her, then marries her and... now he can't divorce her.

These laws are written for men, not for women. Another example of the poor way women were treated as property not human beings.


It is what it is....and don't think that other women haven't said the same thing...It was a man's world...and no matter how much you complain about it now...it won't change it.


Thank God he sent Jesus huh....

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 08/09/08 04:28 PM
JB wrote:

Are you kidding? Do you actually go along with this sort of genetic management? This is either about genetics or it is about men owning women like cattle.


It's definitely more about men owning women like cattle.

These stupid laws were clearly written by men. No God would be so sick. sick

And why do Christians think anything would be differnt in heaven?

If the same God that made all these stupid law for man on earth is the same one who is in charge of heaven then wouldn't it be safe to assume that these same assinine laws would hold in heaven?

Also, why don't Christians today adhere to these stupid laws?

I'll tell precisely why they don't.

Because they know that are stupid laws. That's why!

So they must think God is stupid too then. ohwell

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 08/09/08 04:30 PM


"You Raise Me Up"

When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then, I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

There is no life - no life without its hunger;
Each restless heart beats so imperfectly;
But when you come and I am filled with wonder,
Sometimes, I think I glimpse eternity.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up... To more than I can be.



A little self-brainwashing there I see.

Clearly you are having trouble keeping the faith and needed to give yourself a little pep talk. laugh

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Sat 08/09/08 04:38 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 08/09/08 04:51 PM
A man must not have sexual relations with one wife in the dwelling of another. (Leviticus 18:18)
346.


Does this mean that a man may have two wives but he has to have two houses and he can't have sexual relations with one wife in the dwelling of another wife?

Or

Does this mean that he cannot have sexual relations with his wife in someone else's house?

If so, then what is the reason for "one wife" instead of saying "his wife?"

It looks to me like its okay to have two wives if you have two houses.

JB

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Sat 08/09/08 04:45 PM
Attention men: How do these laws feel from the your perspective being a man and reversing the rules in a female dominated society?


A woman must not have sexual relations with her father.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her mothers husband.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her brother.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her half-brother.

A woman must not have sexual have relations with her daughter’s son.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her son’s son.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her son..

A woman must not marry a man and his son.

A woman must not marry a man and his daughter’s son.

A woman must not marry a man and his son’s son.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her mother’s brother.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her father’s brother.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her mother’s sister’s husband.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her son-in-law.

A woman must not have sexual relations with her sister’s husband.

A woman must not have sexual relations with one husband in the dwelling of another.

A woman must not approach a man while menstruous for sexual relations

Do not commit adultery.

A woman must not have sexual relations with an animal..

A woman must not have sexual relations with another woman.

A woman must not have sexual relations with a man betrothed to another woman.

A woman must not lust after any man forbidden to her.

A woman must not have sexual relations with a man until she has lawfully acquired him in marriage.

Do not allow your son or daughter to marry a godworshiper (a worshiper of false gods) who refuses to repent.
Do not allow your daughter to play the harlot, allowing her to commit fornication..
A woman must not have sexual relations with a man who returns to hier after having sexual relations with another woman.

A childless widower must not marry anybody outside of his wife’s family.

A woman must not divorce a man she married after having raped him.

A woman must not divorce a man she married after having slandered him.

A woman must not allow herself to be sterilized or use birth control.

A woman must not divorce a man, unless he committed premarital fornication.

KerryO's photo
Sat 08/09/08 04:47 PM

What's with all the Bible quotes about sexaul behavior?

If a person wanted to be bothered they could find just as many quotes about why women aren't supposed to speak publically on matters of religion and ethics.

Feral breaks the biblical laws with ever post she makes. laugh


Ah, but Abra? She'll probably counter with this one (I'm sure new already knew about it):

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians and all those who make empty
prophecies. The danger already exists that mathematicians have made a covenant with
the devil to darken the spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell." -St. Augustine

Of course, on the other hand, today's Intelligent Design proponents will probably point to Newton's <I> Principia Mathematica</I> and say, "See! See! Even the father of The Calculus acknowledges Creation Science!"


-Kerry O.


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Sat 08/09/08 04:47 PM
It's definitely more about men owning women like cattle.


That's because you don't believe in the alien gods who were merely trying to breed a superior race of human slaves and to keep track of their own bloodlines. laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 08/09/08 04:50 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 08/09/08 04:55 PM


A man must not divorce a woman he married after having raped her. (Deuteronomy 22:29)
359.


I feel very sorry for that woman. He rapes her, then marries her and... now he can't divorce her.

These laws are written for men, not for women. Another example of the poor way women were treated as property not human beings.


It is what it is....and don't think that other women haven't said the same thing...It was a man's world...and no matter how much you complain about it now...it won't change it.


Thank God he sent Jesus huh....


You wanna bet it won't change? Women are already ignoring the law about keep their mouths shut. LOL

Thank God he sent Jesus? If Jesus is God, then he is responsible for these laws. Like Abra said, what makes you believe that it will be any different in Heaven? Will you still be a woman in heaven or will you be both man and woman? Or will you be neither? What do you think Deb?

JB


feralcatlady's photo
Sat 08/09/08 04:54 PM



"You Raise Me Up"

When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then, I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

There is no life - no life without its hunger;
Each restless heart beats so imperfectly;
But when you come and I am filled with wonder,
Sometimes, I think I glimpse eternity.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up... To more than I can be.



A little self-brainwashing there I see.

Clearly you are having trouble keeping the faith and needed to give yourself a little pep talk. laugh





you wish......more like I listened so that I would not

frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

do that.....


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

KerryO's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:08 PM



"You Raise Me Up"

When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then, I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

There is no life - no life without its hunger;
Each restless heart beats so imperfectly;
But when you come and I am filled with wonder,
Sometimes, I think I glimpse eternity.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up... To more than I can be.



A little self-brainwashing there I see.

Clearly you are having trouble keeping the faith and needed to give yourself a little pep talk. laugh



She probably has no idea that this song came from New Age composer Rolf Lovland from Norway.


-Kerry O.

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:12 PM



A man must not divorce a woman he married after having raped her. (Deuteronomy 22:29)
359.


I feel very sorry for that woman. He rapes her, then marries her and... now he can't divorce her.

These laws are written for men, not for women. Another example of the poor way women were treated as property not human beings.


It is what it is....and don't think that other women haven't said the same thing...It was a man's world...and no matter how much you complain about it now...it won't change it.


Thank God he sent Jesus huh....


You wanna bet it won't change? Women are already ignoring the law about keep their mouths shut. LOL

Thank God he sent Jesus? If Jesus is God, then he is responsible for these laws. Like Abra said, what makes you believe that it will be any different in Heaven? Will you still be a woman in heaven or will you be both man and woman? Or will you be neither? What do you think Deb?

JB




I think your insane......gigglesnort......and totally joking.....cmon there was a lot of amazing women of the Bible to.....You guys are harping on something that just was....It is not like that now.....Cmon JB I don't shut my mouth for no one....and God knows and uses me because of it.

Remember Jesus would not of been able to do his ministry had it not been for women......



The Three Wise Women

You do know what would have happened if it had been three wise WOMEN instead of men, don't you?


They would have asked for directions,
arrived on time,
helped deliver the baby,
cleaned the stable,
made a casserole,
and brought disposable diapers as gifts!



feralcatlady's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:17 PM
Edited by feralcatlady on Sat 08/09/08 05:18 PM


WRONG he only wrote the music


lyrics by Brendan Graham. A student priest among other things....






Good try hahahhahaha








"You Raise Me Up"

When I am down and, oh my soul, so weary;
When troubles come and my heart burdened be;
Then, I am still and wait here in the silence,
Until you come and sit awhile with me.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

There is no life - no life without its hunger;
Each restless heart beats so imperfectly;
But when you come and I am filled with wonder,
Sometimes, I think I glimpse eternity.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up, so I can stand on mountains;
You raise me up, to walk on stormy seas;
I am strong, when I am on your shoulders;
You raise me up... To more than I can be.

You raise me up... To more than I can be.



A little self-brainwashing there I see.

Clearly you are having trouble keeping the faith and needed to give yourself a little pep talk. laugh



She probably has no idea that this song came from New Age composer Rolf Lovland from Norway.




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Sat 08/09/08 05:19 PM




A man must not divorce a woman he married after having raped her. (Deuteronomy 22:29)
359.


I feel very sorry for that woman. He rapes her, then marries her and... now he can't divorce her.

These laws are written for men, not for women. Another example of the poor way women were treated as property not human beings.


It is what it is....and don't think that other women haven't said the same thing...It was a man's world...and no matter how much you complain about it now...it won't change it.


Thank God he sent Jesus huh....


You wanna bet it won't change? Women are already ignoring the law about keep their mouths shut. LOL

Thank God he sent Jesus? If Jesus is God, then he is responsible for these laws. Like Abra said, what makes you believe that it will be any different in Heaven? Will you still be a woman in heaven or will you be both man and woman? Or will you be neither? What do you think Deb?

JB




I think your insane......gigglesnort......and totally joking.....cmon there was a lot of amazing women of the Bible to.....You guys are harping on something that just was....It is not like that now.....Cmon JB I don't shut my mouth for no one....and God knows and uses me because of it.

Remember Jesus would not of been able to do his ministry had it not been for women......



The Three Wise Women

You do know what would have happened if it had been three wise WOMEN instead of men, don't you?


They would have asked for directions,
arrived on time,
helped deliver the baby,
cleaned the stable,
made a casserole,
and brought disposable diapers as gifts!



Not to put a damper on your cute little joke, but the truth of the matter is many of the wise outspoken women were killed. This is no joke.

JB

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:21 PM





A man must not divorce a woman he married after having raped her. (Deuteronomy 22:29)
359.


I feel very sorry for that woman. He rapes her, then marries her and... now he can't divorce her.

These laws are written for men, not for women. Another example of the poor way women were treated as property not human beings.


It is what it is....and don't think that other women haven't said the same thing...It was a man's world...and no matter how much you complain about it now...it won't change it.


Thank God he sent Jesus huh....


You wanna bet it won't change? Women are already ignoring the law about keep their mouths shut. LOL

Thank God he sent Jesus? If Jesus is God, then he is responsible for these laws. Like Abra said, what makes you believe that it will be any different in Heaven? Will you still be a woman in heaven or will you be both man and woman? Or will you be neither? What do you think Deb?

JB




I think your insane......gigglesnort......and totally joking.....cmon there was a lot of amazing women of the Bible to.....You guys are harping on something that just was....It is not like that now.....Cmon JB I don't shut my mouth for no one....and God knows and uses me because of it.

Remember Jesus would not of been able to do his ministry had it not been for women......



The Three Wise Women

You do know what would have happened if it had been three wise WOMEN instead of men, don't you?


They would have asked for directions,
arrived on time,
helped deliver the baby,
cleaned the stable,
made a casserole,
and brought disposable diapers as gifts!



Not to put a damper on your cute little joke, but the truth of the matter is many of the wise outspoken women were killed. This is no joke.

JB




Oh please JB do tell?

Krimsa's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:24 PM
"A man must not approach a menstruous woman for sexual relations or in any way to become ritually unclean by her. (Leviticus 18:19)
347."

I hate to keep harping on Leviticus, but there it is again and it bugs me. Okay so that kind of falls in line with the out of proportion fear of menstrual blood. Notice "ritually unclean". Now what are they referring to exactly? I think it might just mean that for a man to get her menstrual blood on his thingy is a bad idea. It will make him "unclean" because of the curse of her blood. Now folks, we are adults here and hopefully have an understanding of the female anatomy and the basic principles of reproduction. What is the shedding of menstrual blood? It is the discarded lining of the uterus that is shed if no seed implants here and begins forming into a child. Once again, there is this vicious attack on a woman's body and the ability to create life.

Another thing, generally women go through a condition known as amenorrhea which is a suspension of the menstrual cycle that occurs after birth for a period of time. Breast feeding will lengthen it. All of these women during the time of Jesus and before then were of course breast feeding. So that means shortly after giving birth, there were no periods for a time after. Therefore, your little claim that this "atonement" was for her own good because she was menstruating doesn’t hold water either.

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Sat 08/09/08 05:35 PM

A man must not have sexual relations with one wife in the dwelling of another. (Leviticus 18:18)
346.


Does this mean that a man may have two wives but he has to have two houses and he can't have sexual relations with one wife in the dwelling of another wife?

Or

Does this mean that he cannot have sexual relations with his wife in someone else's house?

If so, then what is the reason for "one wife" instead of saying "his wife?"

It looks to me like its okay to have two wives if you have two houses.

JB


Would someone please answer the above questions please?

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:36 PM
I hate to keep harping on Leviticus, but there it is again and it bugs me.


Why should that bug you?

The Bible was clearly written by superstitious male chauvanists pigs who had perverted minds.

No God would be that sick. sick

It's a sick demented religion based on bloody superstitions.

Where does the Biblical God ever do anything that even remotely resembles was a sane intelligent being would do?

It's all male-chuavanistic bigoted superstitions based on fear and ignorance.

Is that what God is? An ignorant male-chuavanististic pig?

He has men buying and selling women like cattle?

The religions is sick. Period. sick

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 08/09/08 05:41 PM

Would someone please answer the above questions please?


What's to answer?

The men who wrote these things were clearly perverts who had their mind in the gutter. ohwell

They couldn't keep their mind off sex and so it's all they wrote about. laugh

What a bunch of idiots. grumble