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can't you just feel the christian love in the room ABRA - now why wouldn't you want to be a part of this? What's wrong with you abra? can't you see your interrupting this wonderful loving conversation between two brothers? Bad abra - go tell jeannie you sinned again. we cannot participate in this any more - it is between the holy spider and the pope of M2 - not our business right? Let the holy wars continue without us, we can pick up the spoils of war when they have finished their battle of words.  Tribo, You are mischaracterizing my post. I am not telling Abra that he can't participate, I'm simply explaining to him that the posts he was responding to were not directed at him. Read the posts and you will understand what I'm getting at. Abra is responding as if my posts were directed at him, they weren't. He was misunderstanding my posts, that's all. I was trying to explain to him, because he gets worked up and doesn't read my posts and just continues to respond. I simply wanted to avoid further confusion. no I'm talking about things such as this "Don't piss up my leg and tell me it's raining that's what I'm referring to- the brotherly love shown to TLW, and me or others spider, but especially to a brother in your belief's. i know you don't think your offensive but yo are, you forget there are those who are not of your beliefs reading your "holy words" and thinking to themselves " is this guy a christian"? i don't care how you talk spider, but - I'm not trying to win anybody to my beliefs which state that god loves everybody or only his chosen ones or any other sectarian holdings ad infinitum ad nasaeum, you are not responsible to me - but you are "supposedly" responsible to your god/jesus, your words do not reflect Jesus in attitude or belief - i see nothing but pride and ego, such as we mere mortals have, not those who speak for god and or through the holy spirit. But if that is the spirit you want to project to others here trying to understand Jesus' beliefs or trying to see if becoming a christian is something they might like to do, then keep it up, the more you rant and show yourself to be all about you instead of Jesus, the better off those who read you will be in making a correct decision in not wanting any part of "your" (spider's) take on it. actually your doing the so called lost a favor. Sorry, forget the rest that I've said continue on full force,great job (claps hands and smiles).
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Tribo,
It appears that you are attempting to change the subject. To me, that implies that you are aware that your post reveals that you weren't following the conversation and simply mischaracterized my post and now you want to hide that fact. If that colorful saying is offensive to you...so offensive that you made several posts without mentioning the saying or even getting close to that topic, then you should report it. I'll report it for you, if you wish.
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just like the energizer bunny with a blindfold, it keeps going, and going, and going, and................................................................................................................................................
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just like the energizer bunny with a blindfold, it keeps going, and going, and going, and................................................................................................................................................ 
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There are many good Christians who are fundamentalists, just as I'm sure there are many good Christians who are also Catholics. I think this sort of thread does nothing but further divide the body of Christ. There are many crazy Christians...like Mel Gibsons Catholic Priest father who doesn't believe the Holocaust happened and believes that the Catholic Church is under the control of a Jewish conspiracy. To paint all who believe a certain way by the crazy beliefs of the minority is unfair. My cousin was raped by a group of Mexicans, should I assume all Mexicans are rapists? If I were to follow your example, I would. How dare you insult Mel Gibson.  The Catholic Church is under the control of the Elite banksters who have all the money and power in the world. (If they claim or happyen to be Jewish, that's irrelevant and for another story. Just a few thoughts. |
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this is very sweet. this reminds me of abra with JB. they look so sweet when they agree with each other in their views. lovely and sweet, that i just wanna cry. {{{{{{{{{  Quikstepper & Spidercmb }}}}}}}}}}}} Where’s Debbie and Rapunzel? We’ve got another match.  They really are a perfect match.  JB |
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(Quickstepper;) Thanks again spider for saying it like it is... ...and for your diplomatic way of saying it too!  Thank you, you are too kind. Get a room you two. 
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this is very sweet. this reminds me of abra with JB. they look so sweet when they agree with each other in their views. lovely and sweet, that i just wanna cry. {{{{{{{{{ Quikstepper & Spidercmb }}}}}}}}}}}} Where’s Debbie and Rapunzel? We’ve got another match. This is exactly what I mean...people who accuse others of doing what they are the ones doing. Thanks for making my point abra... Don't think your dumb remarks intimidate me...I'm in GREAT company with ANY of God's chosen. Unlike those like Lonely (I'm not surprized he is either..lonely that is) who disrespect God by putting down those he knows nothing about & claiming he knows something he doesn't, causing division instead of good faith. How sad for him. I don't expect much from you or JB or others...but here's a guy who claims he knows God but completely throws God's word under the bus. DUH!!!! OINK! OINK! OINK! Quickstepper, Why are you dragging me into this quarrel? Sheeeesh.  JB |
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"I viewed my fellow man not as a fallen angel, but as a risen ape."
Desmond Morris |
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I said that I don't agree with you in those two last sentences. I also said that i respect you deeply. Finally, I said I withdraw. Your last two lines were insults. You don't respect me, because you lie about what I believe and say. We have a saying "Don't piss up my leg and tell me it's raining". I never said that God doesn't love everyone, I don't believe that either. You are making strawman fallacies and attacking them. Anyone who isn't following the conversation will believe your strawman fallacies are my real beliefs, they are tantamount to lies. Please stop putting words in my mouth. You have insulted me since I have been posting here and I don't see why. I don't insult your beliefs. I have never questioned your faith. I have never suggested you don't worship the true God. Why do you do these things to me? huh? now i'm at lost. come again???? where did i insult you? Lonlywalker, Everybody insults Spider. He is persecuted. Poor guy. I feel so sorry for him.  JB |
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Lonlywalker, Everybody insults Spider. He is persecuted. Poor guy. I feel so sorry for him. JB Not everybody insults me. |
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Notice that I quoted the Catholic Bible and not that darn evil KJV? If you look in a KJV, you will find the same message. "Love your neighbor", not "love your brothers and sisters". You are ignoring the elephant in the room, namely Jesus' words. WHY DID JESUS SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THE WILL OF GOD TO BE ONE OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS? WHY DID JESUS SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND OTHERS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL? I've quoted those scriptures for you, but you continue to ignore them. Look at those verses. Read them. Ask yourself why you so desperately want to deny them. Ok, my mistake not copying and pasting. sorry!!!! you missed my point. From here I withdraw I respect your position, but mine stands. My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless. Not the pharisaic God who comdemns. My God, as I know him, is one who loves all of us regardless. It's not about if God loves US...of course He does. It's about do we really love Him??? Jesus asked Peter three times...Do you love Me? It's an important question...for us that is. You can't have a relationship with someone you don't know or love or trust etc. You can't possibly follow or rest in a God that scares you. Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! |
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Edited by
tribo
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Thu 07/31/08 11:06 AM
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QS
Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! Tribo "warped view"? "humans? - so tell me quicky, as an "outsider" - what do you think of the "human" race? Your remarks "highly" suggest that you are "beyond" humanity, something of higher substance so to say. For some reason i was under the belief that "ALL HUMANS" were the same? evidently I'm wrong. even your book says you are a saved "SINNER" your above no one in your belief just fortunate that god through christ allows you to fall under his grace of redemtion. Though to me that is very debatable. |
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QS Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! Tribo "warped view"? "humans? - so tell me quicky, as an "outsider" - what do you think of the "human" race? Your remarks "highly" suggest that you are "beyond" humanity, something of higher substance so to say. For some reason i was under the belief that "ALL HUMANS" were the same? evidently I'm wrong. even your book says you are a saved "SINNER" your above no one in your belief just fortunate that god through christ allows you to fall under his grace of redemtion. Though to me that is very debatable. I never said I was any better...that's YOUR assumption... you know what they say about assuming. It's only God who can raise us up ... and make us what we were intended to be. All you have to do is look around to know that people are not living up to their full potential...for whatever reason. They need God to restore back what life & the devil took from them. Do you really want to be responsible for turning people who are seeking their peace from God? A very dangerous place to be. |
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It's not about if God loves US...of course He does. It's about do we really love Him??? Jesus asked Peter three times...Do you love Me? Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! If humans have a warped view of God it's only because of the way that false Christians keep forcing that view onto them. The real question is whether Christianity can ever recover from the Arachnid Pope who thinks he speaks for Jesus? When the real Christians try to speak out against bigotry the self-appointed Arachnid Pope chastises them and belittles them claiming that only HE has the correct understanding of the Word of God!!! Is that what Christianity is all about Quicky? Bullying other Christians into to agreeing with a particlur individual human's point of view? That's the ultimate disgrace as far as I'm concerned, and this is precisely why I say that these religions that allow people to claim to be interpreting the word of God from a book are so dangerous. Just look at the loathing monsters it creates!  Like Kerry O. suggested in another thread through the words of Bishop Spong, "The Bible became the Paper Pope of protestantism", now any random idiot can come along and claim to speak for God. And they jump at the opportunity too! And you support that? |
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It's not about if God loves US...of course He does. It's about do we really love Him??? Jesus asked Peter three times...Do you love Me? Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! If humans have a warped view of God it's only because of the way that false Christians keep forcing that view onto them. The real question is whether Christianity can ever recover from the Arachnid Pope who thinks he speaks for Jesus? When the real Christians try to speak out against bigotry the self-appointed Arachnid Pope chastises them and belittles them claiming that only HE has the correct understanding of the Word of God!!! Is that what Christianity is all about Quicky? Bullying other Christians into to agreeing with a particlur individual human's point of view? That's the ultimate disgrace as far as I'm concerned, and this is precisely why I say that these religions that allow people to claim to be interpreting the word of God from a book are so dangerous. Just look at the loathing monsters it creates! Like Kerry O. suggested in another thread through the words of Bishop Spong, "The Bible became the Paper Pope of protestantism", now any random idiot can come along and claim to speak for God. And they jump at the opportunity too! And you support that? Everyone needs a starting point. Those who seek God recognize (wisely) that they need something more...inwardly. They recognize their instinct of God. God put that there & it won't be denied. You can rebell against it all you want but others will see the wisdom in acknowledging it. You can also believe that the Bible is just words on a page. Again...just like many who have been touched by God & those who live with His abiding presence... you can deny His word but not the testimony of those who KNOW He exists & is a rewarder of those who come to Him. People like you reduce God to nothing but too many are either out there seeking &/or knowing He exists... the GREAT God of grace, loving kindnesses & mercy... Jehovah God the Father & His Son Jesus. It's by His very spirit that we receive His divine nature. Consider it more like this... God is the writer of His word & we are the "pens" He uses to communicate His will. You want to live with a clouded view of God but I say God! Take the cloud away so we can see You for who You truly are & not what our life experiences limit You as!!!! There lies the difference. |
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It's not about if God loves US...of course He does. It's about do we really love Him??? Jesus asked Peter three times...Do you love Me? Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! If humans have a warped view of God it's only because of the way that false Christians keep forcing that view onto them. The real question is whether Christianity can ever recover from the Arachnid Pope who thinks he speaks for Jesus? When the real Christians try to speak out against bigotry the self-appointed Arachnid Pope chastises them and belittles them claiming that only HE has the correct understanding of the Word of God!!! Is that what Christianity is all about Quicky? Bullying other Christians into to agreeing with a particlur individual human's point of view? That's the ultimate disgrace as far as I'm concerned, and this is precisely why I say that these religions that allow people to claim to be interpreting the word of God from a book are so dangerous. Just look at the loathing monsters it creates! Like Kerry O. suggested in another thread through the words of Bishop Spong, "The Bible became the Paper Pope of protestantism", now any random idiot can come along and claim to speak for God. And they jump at the opportunity too! And you support that? Everyone needs a starting point. Those who seek God recognize (wisely) that they need something more...inwardly. They recognize their instinct of God. God put that there & it won't be denied. You can rebell against it all you want but others will see the wisdom in acknowledging it. You can also believe that the Bible is just words on a page. Again...just like many who have been touched by God & those who live with His abiding presence... you can deny His word but not the testimony of those who KNOW He exists & is a rewarder of those who come to Him. People like you reduce God to nothing but too many are either out there seeking &/or knowing He exists... the GREAT God of grace, loving kindnesses & mercy... Jehovah God the Father & His Son Jesus. It's by His very spirit that we receive His divine nature. Consider it more like this... God is the writer of His word & we are the "pens" He uses to communicate His will. You want to live with a clouded view of God but I say God! Take the cloud away so we can see You for who You truly are & not what our life experiences limit You as!!!! There lies the difference. Then Quicky, you should trust God to reveal himself and put the Bible back on the shelf where it belongs and get personal with your relationship with God, forgetting the dogma of the past. That is ancient history. Then, after you do that, try to keep your personal experience to yourself and don't try to insist that everyone else needs to follow you and believe as you do. We are each of us individuals and we can each find God in our own personal way. JB |
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Like Kerry O. suggested in another thread through the words of Bishop Spong, "The Bible became the Paper Pope of protestantism", now any random idiot can come along and claim to speak for God. And they jump at the opportunity too! I like that. The Bible has become the "Paper Pope." That is so true. People think they need a Pope or the written word to be close to God. This is just not true. JB |
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Like Kerry O. suggested in another thread through the words of Bishop Spong, "The Bible became the Paper Pope of protestantism", now any random idiot can come along and claim to speak for God. And they jump at the opportunity too! I like that. The Bible has become the "Paper Pope." That is so true. People think they need a Pope or the written word to be close to God. This is just not true. JB again dear you fail in the same thing. not true for you, that does not mean it's not true for everyone else. remember our little agreement. |
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Sat 08/02/08 08:56 AM
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It's not about if God loves US...of course He does. It's about do we really love Him??? Jesus asked Peter three times...Do you love Me? Humans have to see that their own warped view of God is WRONG before they can fully appreciate who God is & what His promises & ways are! If humans have a warped view of God it's only because of the way that false Christians keep forcing that view onto them. The real question is whether Christianity can ever recover from the Arachnid Pope who thinks he speaks for Jesus? When the real Christians try to speak out against bigotry the self-appointed Arachnid Pope chastises them and belittles them claiming that only HE has the correct understanding of the Word of God!!! Is that what Christianity is all about Quicky? Bullying other Christians into to agreeing with a particlur individual human's point of view? That's the ultimate disgrace as far as I'm concerned, and this is precisely why I say that these religions that allow people to claim to be interpreting the word of God from a book are so dangerous. Just look at the loathing monsters it creates! Like Kerry O. suggested in another thread through the words of Bishop Spong, "The Bible became the Paper Pope of protestantism", now any random idiot can come along and claim to speak for God. And they jump at the opportunity too! And you support that? Everyone needs a starting point. Those who seek God recognize (wisely) that they need something more...inwardly. They recognize their instinct of God. God put that there & it won't be denied. You can rebell against it all you want but others will see the wisdom in acknowledging it. You can also believe that the Bible is just words on a page. Again...just like many who have been touched by God & those who live with His abiding presence... you can deny His word but not the testimony of those who KNOW He exists & is a rewarder of those who come to Him. People like you reduce God to nothing but too many are either out there seeking &/or knowing He exists... the GREAT God of grace, loving kindnesses & mercy... Jehovah God the Father & His Son Jesus. It's by His very spirit that we receive His divine nature. Consider it more like this... God is the writer of His word & we are the "pens" He uses to communicate His will. You want to live with a clouded view of God but I say God! Take the cloud away so we can see You for who You truly are & not what our life experiences limit You as!!!! There lies the difference. Then Quicky, you should trust God to reveal himself and put the Bible back on the shelf where it belongs and get personal with your relationship with God, forgetting the dogma of the past. That is ancient history. Then, after you do that, try to keep your personal experience to yourself and don't try to insist that everyone else needs to follow you and believe as you do. We are each of us individuals and we can each find God in our own personal way. JB INSIST??? Another assumption you all make. Most of us just share our experience in KNOWING God. Some of you just argue & tear down. I don't comment about other beliefs. Even the remarks about space alien gods. I just comment on my faith. I know you would like to tear that down but yu can't. I won't let you & neither will God. So there... 
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