Topic: another ridicule example of fundamentalism...
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Wed 07/30/08 12:17 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 07/30/08 12:18 PM



Notice that I quoted the Catholic Bible and not that darn evil KJV? If you look in a KJV, you will find the same message. "Love your neighbor", not "love your brothers and sisters".

You are ignoring the elephant in the room, namely Jesus' words.

WHY DID JESUS SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THE WILL OF GOD TO BE ONE OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS?

WHY DID JESUS SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND OTHERS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL?

I've quoted those scriptures for you, but you continue to ignore them. Look at those verses. Read them. Ask yourself why you so desperately want to deny them.


Ok, my mistake not copying and pasting. sorry!!!!

you missed my point.

From here I withdraw I respect your position, but mine stands.
My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


My God, as I know him, is one who loves all of us regardless.




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Wed 07/30/08 12:18 PM



Notice that I quoted the Catholic Bible and not that darn evil KJV? If you look in a KJV, you will find the same message. "Love your neighbor", not "love your brothers and sisters".

You are ignoring the elephant in the room, namely Jesus' words.

WHY DID JESUS SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THE WILL OF GOD TO BE ONE OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS?

WHY DID JESUS SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND OTHERS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL?

I've quoted those scriptures for you, but you continue to ignore them. Look at those verses. Read them. Ask yourself why you so desperately want to deny them.


Ok, my mistake not copying and pasting. sorry!!!!

you missed my point.

From here I withdraw I respect your position, but mine stands.
My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


So you will replace my statements with a strawman fallacy.

I never said that God doesn't love everyone, did I?

I never said that God condemns non-Christians, did I?

No, those are your words, placed into my mouth. God loves all of humanity, but not everyone is God's children. That is what Jesus taught.

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Wed 07/30/08 12:19 PM

well gee guy's, thnx for answwering all of my questions, it's been so helpful and entertaining, let's do it agian some time -
















NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh


did you have pop corn and coke while the show was on?

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Wed 07/30/08 12:20 PM




Notice that I quoted the Catholic Bible and not that darn evil KJV? If you look in a KJV, you will find the same message. "Love your neighbor", not "love your brothers and sisters".

You are ignoring the elephant in the room, namely Jesus' words.

WHY DID JESUS SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THE WILL OF GOD TO BE ONE OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS?

WHY DID JESUS SAY THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND OTHERS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL?

I've quoted those scriptures for you, but you continue to ignore them. Look at those verses. Read them. Ask yourself why you so desperately want to deny them.


Ok, my mistake not copying and pasting. sorry!!!!

you missed my point.

From here I withdraw I respect your position, but mine stands.
My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


So you will replace my statements with a strawman fallacy.

I never said that God doesn't love everyone, did I?

I never said that God condemns non-Christians, did I?

No, those are your words, placed into my mouth. God loves all of humanity, but not everyone is God's children. That is what Jesus taught.

I said that I don't agree with you in those two last sentences.
I also said that i respect you deeply.
Finally, I said I withdraw.

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Wed 07/30/08 12:22 PM


You are right, there isn't any. I have quoted Jesus to prove that what I am asserting agrees with what Jesus taught.


I quoted Jesus too. But then you denounced the Bible from whence the quote came.

Well, I denounce the Bible from whence your quote came then.

It's no big deal. Clearly no one has a clue what Jesus might have said. To many bibles, who knows which one might be true, if any?

I'm totally willing to accept that. flowerforyou


Abra,

You are confused.

Please listen to me for a moment and DON'T respond until you understand what I'm saying.

I HAVEN'T BEEN RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO ONE OF YOUR POSTS IN THIS THREAD. Got it?

"I quoted Jesus too. But then you denounced the Bible from whence the quote came."

Not true. I didn't address your post and I didn't denounce any Bible, I was discussing with TLW, not you. NOT YOU. Get it?

You are confused, I understand that. But you need to untangle your thoughts and understand that my posts were not directed at you, I have been discussing an issue with TLW.

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Wed 07/30/08 12:23 PM


well gee guy's, thnx for answwering all of my questions, it's been so helpful and entertaining, let's do it agian some time -
















NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh


did you have pop corn and coke while the show was on?


nope - cookies and milk :tongue:

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Wed 07/30/08 12:25 PM



well gee guy's, thnx for answwering all of my questions, it's been so helpful and entertaining, let's do it agian some time -
















NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh


did you have pop corn and coke while the show was on?


nope - cookies and milk :tongue:

cool beans

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Wed 07/30/08 12:26 PM

I said that I don't agree with you in those two last sentences.
I also said that i respect you deeply.
Finally, I said I withdraw.


Your last two lines were insults. You don't respect me, because you lie about what I believe and say. We have a saying "Don't piss up my leg and tell me it's raining". I never said that God doesn't love everyone, I don't believe that either. You are making strawman fallacies and attacking them. Anyone who isn't following the conversation will believe your strawman fallacies are my real beliefs, they are tantamount to lies. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

You have insulted me since I have been posting here and I don't see why. I don't insult your beliefs. I have never questioned your faith. I have never suggested you don't worship the true God. Why do you do these things to me?

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Wed 07/30/08 12:29 PM


I said that I don't agree with you in those two last sentences.
I also said that i respect you deeply.
Finally, I said I withdraw.


Your last two lines were insults. You don't respect me, because you lie about what I believe and say. We have a saying "Don't piss up my leg and tell me it's raining". I never said that God doesn't love everyone, I don't believe that either. You are making strawman fallacies and attacking them. Anyone who isn't following the conversation will believe your strawman fallacies are my real beliefs, they are tantamount to lies. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

You have insulted me since I have been posting here and I don't see why. I don't insult your beliefs. I have never questioned your faith. I have never suggested you don't worship the true God. Why do you do these things to me?

huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?

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Wed 07/30/08 12:31 PM



You are right, there isn't any. I have quoted Jesus to prove that what I am asserting agrees with what Jesus taught.


I quoted Jesus too. But then you denounced the Bible from whence the quote came.

Well, I denounce the Bible from whence your quote came then.

It's no big deal. Clearly no one has a clue what Jesus might have said. To many bibles, who knows which one might be true, if any?

I'm totally willing to accept that. flowerforyou


Abra,

You are confused.

Please listen to me for a moment and DON'T respond until you understand what I'm saying.

I HAVEN'T BEEN RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO ONE OF YOUR POSTS IN THIS THREAD. Got it?

"I quoted Jesus too. But then you denounced the Bible from whence the quote came."

Not true. I didn't address your post and I didn't denounce any Bible, I was discussing with TLW, not you. NOT YOU. Get it?

You are confused, I understand that. But you need to untangle your thoughts and understand that my posts were not directed at you, I have been discussing an issue with TLW.


can't you just feel the christian love in the room ABRA - now why wouldn't you want to be a part of this? What's wrong with you abra? can't you see your interrupting this wonderful loving conversation between two brothers? Bad abra - go tell jeannie you sinned again. we cannot participate in this any more - it is between the holy spider and the pope of M2 - not our business right? Let the holy wars continue without us, we can pick up the spoils of war when they have finished their battle of words.flowerforyou

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Wed 07/30/08 12:34 PM
the pope of M2has been beaten down badly now.
he has insulted somebody, and he did not even realized.
and for abra tell to come to confessionary i will take care of that.

laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 07/30/08 12:35 PM

huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?


Didn't you say this?


My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


You are implying that I believe in a god that doesn't love all people, which isn't true.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Wed 07/30/08 12:36 PM


huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?


Didn't you say this?


My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


You are implying that I believe in a god that doesn't love all people, which isn't true.


for God's sake believe me I was not implying anything about you in particular.
I'm talking about fundamentalism in general
not you individually.

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 07/30/08 12:37 PM

huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?


You insulted him by not bowing down to the fact that only he has the correct word of God. You have failed to recognize his divinity Miguel.

Shame on you Miguel for even remotely hinting that he might be just another mortal man and his opinions should be treated as such. yawn

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Wed 07/30/08 12:38 PM


huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?


You insulted him by not bowing down to the fact that only he has the correct word of God. You have failed to recognize his divinity Miguel.

Shame on you Miguel for even remotely hinting that he might be just another mortal man and his opinions should be treated as such. yawn

am i going to hell????pitchfork :banana:

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Wed 07/30/08 12:39 PM

can't you just feel the christian love in the room ABRA - now why wouldn't you want to be a part of this? What's wrong with you abra? can't you see your interrupting this wonderful loving conversation between two brothers? Bad abra - go tell jeannie you sinned again. we cannot participate in this any more - it is between the holy spider and the pope of M2 - not our business right? Let the holy wars continue without us, we can pick up the spoils of war when they have finished their battle of words.flowerforyou


Tribo,

You are mischaracterizing my post. I am not telling Abra that he can't participate, I'm simply explaining to him that the posts he was responding to were not directed at him. Read the posts and you will understand what I'm getting at. Abra is responding as if my posts were directed at him, they weren't. He was misunderstanding my posts, that's all. I was trying to explain to him, because he gets worked up and doesn't read my posts and just continues to respond. I simply wanted to avoid further confusion.

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Wed 07/30/08 12:39 PM
What was the question again??laugh

Forget about it pass the mash potatoes pleaselaugh

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Wed 07/30/08 12:43 PM



huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?


Didn't you say this?


My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


You are implying that I believe in a god that doesn't love all people, which isn't true.


for God's sake believe me I was not implying anything about you in particular.
I'm talking about fundamentalism in general
not you individually.


TLW,

Your point is clear. You think that since I don't believe everyone is God's children (which is NOT what Jesus taught), then whatever god I believe in doesn't love everyone.

ohwell At least you didn't say that I am only a Christian out of fear of hell.ohwell

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 07/30/08 12:45 PM
Here, have some gray too Smiless.

And don't forget to try some of the roasted dragon's breast. glasses

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Wed 07/30/08 12:52 PM




huh?
now i'm at lost.
come again????
where did i insult you?


Didn't you say this?


My Lord is the one who loves all of us regardless.
Not the pharisaic God who comdemns.


You are implying that I believe in a god that doesn't love all people, which isn't true.


for God's sake believe me I was not implying anything about you in particular.
I'm talking about fundamentalism in general
not you individually.


TLW,

Your point is clear. You think that since I don't believe everyone is God's children (which is NOT what Jesus taught), then whatever god I believe in doesn't love everyone.

ohwell At least you didn't say that I am only a Christian out of fear of hell.ohwell

well my friend if you don't want to believe my words, it's up to you.
I have been out of this debate long time ago.