Who doo you see advancing the world more Einstien or Tesla? Abra

You're absolultely correct Tribo. I'm in complete agreement with you!

Science only moves forward when it frees itself from it's own dogma!

That's what happened in the case of both General Relativity and Quantum mechanics. Both of those advancements were only made when science freed itself from the Dogma of Classical Phsyics!!!

There is a new frontier awaiting science!!! There is a dogma is must break free of in order to move forward again!!!

I'm supposed to be writing the book that reveals that dogma!!!

But I've been refusing to write it.

I am coming around though!!! I begining to realize the rebellious nature of my attitude on this matter and I really need to write that damn book whether I like it or not. It's not my book. It belongs to the universe!

The only problem right now is that it's on a shelf in my mind, and I need to put it into a form that can be placed on the shelves of books stores thoughout the world.

i can't speak for abra miles, but for me they both found parts to the whole as far as the world goes. yet neither has even come close to the knowledge we once had.

i'll anxiously await yours as i'm sure you will await mine - no hurry though the world will go on without us

Jeanniebeanie.

She has done more to advance my own personal world than either Einstein or Tesla.

Tesla shocked the world.

But Einstein made energy matter.

or did he make matter energy? or does it really Matter? i don't have the enrgy to discuss this further -

I would have to say Tesla has put all of them to shame to our knowledge we have today and he has been just left in the backfield.. Even the remote control we use today he built and used a remote control boat in 1917. He was a brillant man Shalom miles

I confess to the world, and to any omniscient God's that might be listening in,... I'm guilty of sloth.

It's my greatest sin (if indeed it is a sin). If sloth is a sin I deserve to be sent to the deepest darkest corners of hell and never allowed to see Bird Fairies again.

However, I did confess it!

I condessed it here an now to the entire universe of men and Gods.

And I am sorry for it and I'm going to do my very best to sin no more.

it may or may not surprise you to know that the egyptians had batteries and possibly civilizations befoe them that have been found by A's - so who is smarter - ancient man or present man?
hmmm? maybe i should say - who's mre ready to futher there greed -

well im not the resident god here - you will have to ask JB to forgive you i have no such power to do so.

There's no question about it.

Isaac Newton has been recognized as the greatest scientist of all time (even greater than Einstein without question).

Isaac Newton truly is the father of modern science, he even invented calculus! He was a far more than just a scientist, and what most people don't realize is that he also studied the Bible inside and out. His untimate conclusion on that is that it is an untenable story.

Albert Einstein is the name we now use as the icon of science. But there are many brilliant scientists who deserve the same credit. Tesla was certainly one of them, as was James Clerk Maxwell. There were many many others who deserve every bit as much credit.

In fact, most people never even heard of Emmy Nother, but she made major breakthoughs in our understanding of the relationships between time, space, energy, and matter.

Albert Einstein showed that space and time are a single fabric thus the term "spacetime". He also showed that energy and matter are the same fabric. They are just two different manisfestations of the same thing.

However, Emmy Nother went on to show that time and energy are two sides of the same coin, and that space and matter are two sides of the same coin.

Yet few people know her name.

It's all fascinating stuff!

Yea those mysteries i do not know if we will ever understand.. To bad the egyptian govt. cut off any more exploration when casey said that under the i think left paw of the spinks was a room filled with all the knowledge of atlantis.

They did with sonar find thier was a room under thier and thats when Egypt shut them down.

As far as religion goes on here. I agree if yoou put it in a box and say this has to be true nomatter what. You shut down it's very power.

When you look at history and see that the interpretations have come down who used the book for thier own power. The you have lost the message of Yahshua.

Because he said thier was power in the word to be used for the betterment of your brother.

Picking up arms he never did. Yet that is all that has happened. so how can you believe tradition that rejects the scriptures.Shalom...Miles

Thanks for the info Abra.. gives me something to check out.. Blessings..Miles

it sounds like it...

thanks Abra!!!

abra

In fact, most people never even heard of Emmy Nother, but she made major breakthoughs in our understanding of the relationships between time, space, energy, and matter.

tribo

yes i learned of her while watching the science channel quite a lady.

i can't agree with this last statement of your R, it's to ethereal -

but i will defend your right to this arguement to the death.

If you're going to look into Emmy Nother perhaps I should give you a 'heads up'

When I say that she showed that time and energy are two sides of the same coin, what she actually did was show mathematically why energy must be conserved. To be conserved means that it must remain constant throughout time.

She showed why this must be the case. And thus linked time and energy mathematically in a way that they cannot be separated (without loss of energy conservation).

To say that another way,... She showed that if energy is indeed conserved it must be innately dependent upon time.

She actually proved this using Lagrangian and Hamiltonian Dynamics and showed that energy and time are inseperably linked.

One way to think about this conversation of 'time and energy', is that all it's really saying is that if you do an experiment today, and you do again tomorrow it will necessarily yeild the same results (given that all other parameters remain consistent)

This may be 'obvious' to use from everyday experience, but she showed that this seemingly trivial fact demands that energy and time be inseparably linked mathematically. Two sides of the same coin so-to-speak.

Showing that space and matter are inseperably linked is associated with the conservation of momemtum. It means that no matter where you perform and experiment in 'space' you must get the same results (given all other parameters are consistent).

Matter in this case representing "momentum". You can't very well have momentum unless you have a mass that has momentum.

Space being the very idea of location itself.

She was working with proving energy and matter must be conserved and ended up proving these connections.

Einstein knew of her work. She did this work after Einstein had discover Relativity. He was in complete agreement with her work and praised it as a great achievement. Unfortunately most people have no clue who Emmy Nother is.

She did other stuff too.

abra:

To say that another way,... She showed that if energy is indeed ""concerned"" it must be innately dependent upon time

Tribo:

? - concerned? what is it concerned with? it's co-depndency on time? ugh i hate co-dependent energies.

yes all that was explained on the science channel also-as i said great mind for mathematics, leaves me in the dust.

Gosh you sure know how to sweet talk a girl.