bush is almost out of office. heres one more reason why he needs to go. in stem cell research which he is against he says,"we are not going to take lives to save lives", ok then if "we" r not going to do this then why r we in iraq?isn't this going on in iraq?

The two cannot even be compared!!

President Bush, and so am I and any other evangelical Christian, are against EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research.

What's the difference? A life is being taken! Whether it is an unborn child or an Adult, a life is a life no matter what age. When is the senseless killing going to stop?

I cannot comment on stem cell research but I was almost moved to tears last summer in the airport witnessing the long line of soldiers at least 200(most were younger than my own children) boarding planes for Iraq. I watched the horseplay and the camaraderie with sadness because I know many of these newbies would never return or never be the same again. I was in HS during Vietnam and it disturbs me to see the lives of American youth wasted on these wars.

Gee? I don't know? Why don't you ask a terrorist...???

Don't compare a terrorist with an unborn child...

Yes well why don't you tell that to the terrorists who run around the mid east shooting off guns & bullying innocent people?

If you could see me you would see me dancing Im so happy to see Bush and the Republicans time coming to an end!

Also stem cell research holds so many fantastic medical breakthroughs it is a shame that Bush has blocked them!
His stance on the issue does nothing to stop abortions. They still go on and probably always will. His stance against stem cell research only forces the fetuses to be disposed as medical waste when they could be saving lives!

great comparison........a valid point

america ws found guilty bythe world court of state sponcored terrorism rather Ironic but of course the liberal mainstream media hardly even gave it a blurb

ADULT STEM CELL,NOT EMBRYONIC STEM CELL, HAS BEEN PROVEN:

http://www.stemcellresearchfacts.com/pros_cons.html
Stem Cell Research Facts


Embryonic Stem Cell Disadvantages
1. Difficult to differentiate uniformly and homogeneously into a target tissue
2. Immunogenic—ES cells from a random embryo donor are likely to be rejected
after transplantation
3. Tumorigenic—Capable of forming tumors or promoting tumor formation
4. Destruction of developing human life

Adult Stem Cell Advantages
1. Special adult-type stem cells from bone marrow and from umbilical cord have been
isolated recently which appear to be as flexible as the embryonic type
2. Already somewhat specialized—inducement may be simpler
3. Not immunogenic—recipients who receive the products of their own stem cells will
not experience immune rejection
4. Relative ease of procurement—some adult stem cells are easy to harvest (skin,
muscle, marrow, fat), while others may be more difficult to obtain (brain stem cells).
Umbilical and placental stem cells are likely to be readily available
5. Non-tumorigenic—tend not to form tumors
6. No harm done to the donor

Adult stem cells are a “natural” solution. They naturally exist in our bodies, and they provide a natural repair mechanism for many tissues of our bodies. They belong in the microenvironment of an adult body, while embryonic stem cells belong in the microenvironment of the early embryo, not in an adult body, where they tend to cause tumors and immune system reactions.

Most importantly, adult stem cells have already been successfully used in human therapies for many years. *****As of this moment, NO therapies in humans have ever been successfully carried out using embryonic stem cells.***** New therapies using adult type stem cells, on the other hand, are being developed all the time. Here are but a few of the many examples of success stories using adult stem cells.

TREATMENTS FROM ADULT STEM CELLS

Jacki Rabon


Spinal Cord Injury
Jacki Rabon
Jacki, 18, suffered an injury to her spine in August, 2003 that left her paralyzed. She was treated in Portugal by Dr. Carlos Lima with her own adult stem cells derived from olfactory mucosa. Dr. Lima's work using adult stem cells to treat spinal cord injuries, such as the treatment Jacki received, will be published this week in the June 24th issue of the peer-reviewed Journal of Spinal Cord Medicine. Jacki is from Waverly, Illinois.

Patrizia & Victoria
Angel Durante


Leukemia
Patrizia Durante
Patrizia was diagnosed with acute leukemia six months into her pregnancy. Her daughter, Victoria Angel, was born healthy, but Durante was given only six months to live. The stem cells from the blood of her daughter’s umbilical cord were used for a transplant. Several years later, Durante is in full remission. “She saved her mommy,” Durante told reporters. “She’s a little miracle. That’s why we named her Victoria Angel. She’s my little angel.”

Gina Rugari

Krabbe’s Leukodystrophy
Gina Rugari
Gina was born with Krabbe’s leukodystrophy. This is a rare, degenerative enzyme disorder of the nervous system, in which the baby shows initial signs of irritability and developmental delay or regression. Seizures and fevers often follow, then blindness and deafness until the baby dies, usually before age 2. Gina was tested for Krabbe’s leukodystrophy shortly after she was born, because she had a brother who had died from the disease. Doctors treated Gina with chemotherapy to destroy her immune system, and introduced new umbilical cord blood stem cells from a closely matched donor. The transplanted cells produced the missing enzyme. Her body accepted the cells, and she is thriving several years after the transplant.

Dennis Turner

Parkinson’s Disease
Dennis Turner
Dennis was diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease and by early 1991 he suffered extreme shaking of the right side of his body and became unable to use his right arm. Neurosurgeon Dr. Michele Levesque removed a small tissue sample from Mr. Turner’s brain, and isolated adult neural stem cells. He multiplied and matured these cells into nerve cells, and injected them back into the left side of Mr. Turner’s brain, which controls the right side of the body. Soon afterwards, the Parkinson’s symptoms began to improve in his right side. His trembling decreased, until to all appearances it disappeared. Neurological evaluation indicated a marked improvement in his symptoms, which lasted for about 5 years. Because Parkinson’s is a progressive ailment, his condition is continuing to deteriorate, but as Mr. Turner recently testified at a U.S. Senate Committee hearing, “…I have no doubt that because of this treatment I’ve enjoyed five years of quality life that I feared had passed me by.” He enthusiastically expressed a willingness to undergo a repeat surgery of this sort to further slow the progression of his symptoms.




http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/winter01/stem_cell.html


The Case for Adult Stem Cell Research
by Wolfgang Lillge, M.D.
The question of stem cells is currently the dominant subject in the debate over biotechnology and human genetics: Should we use embryonic stem cells or adult stem cells for future medical therapies?
Embryonic stem cells are taken from a developing embryo at the blastocyst stage, destroying the embryo, a developing human life. Adult stem cells, on the other hand, are found in all tissues of the growing human being and, according to latest reports, also have the potential to transform themselves into practically all other cell types, or revert to being stem cells with greater reproductive capacity.

Embryonic stem cells have not yet been used for even one therapy, while adult stem cells have already been successfully used in numerous patients, including for cardiac infarction (death of some of the heart tissue).

…..It is remarkable that in the debate–often carried on with little competence–the potential of embryonic stem cells is exaggerated in a one-sided way, while important moral questions and issues of research strategy are passed over in silence. Generally, advocates of research with embryonic stem cells use as their main argument that such research will enable us to cure all of the diseases that are incurable today–cancer, AIDS, Alzheimers, multiple sclerosis, and so forth.
…..On closer inspection, however, the much extolled vision of the future turns out to be a case of completely empty promises: Given the elementary state of research today, it is by no means yet foreseeable, whether even one of the hoped-for treatments can be realized. Basically, such promised cures are a deliberate deception, for behind the mirage of a coming medical wonderland, promoted by interested parties, completely other research objectives will be pursued that are to be kept out of public discussion as much as possible.

I do believe this proves the FACTS, NOT, someone's conjured up fantasy.

Lindyy

Why do you leave out things then?

Left out information from the same site!

Embryonic Stem Cell Advantages
1. Flexible—appear to have the potential to make any cell
2. Immortal—one ES cell line can potentially provide an endless supply of cells with
defined characteristics
3. Availability—embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics


Adult Stem Cell Disadvantages
1. Limited quantity—can sometimes be difficult to obtain in large numbers
2. Finite—may not live as long as ES cells in culture
3. Less flexible (with the exception of #1 above)—may be more difficult to reprogram to
form other tissue types



Why did you leave out all the facts?
Did you think it was unimportant to give all of them?

Republican mentality!
Give out the information they want you to hear, and leave out that which they deem for you, isnt important!

Boy, the republicans sure are desperate!!!

That's what is called half-truths!!!

Adult Stem Cells



The primary role of adult stem cells in humans is to maintain and repair the tissue in which they are found. While we call them adult stem cells, they are more accurately called somatic (from the Greek word soma = body) stem cells, because they come from not only adults, but other sources.

Adult type stem cells come from:

• Umbilical Cords, Placentas and Amniotic Fluid—Adult type stem cells can be derived from various pregnancy-related tissues.

• Adult Tissues—In adults, stem cells are present within various tissues and organ systems. These include the bone marrow, liver, epidermis, retina, skeletal muscle, intestine, brain, dental pulp, and elsewhere. Even fat obtained from liposuction has been shown to contain significant numbers of adult type stem cells.

• Cadavers—Neural stem cells have been removed from specific areas in post-mortem human brains as late as 20 hours following death.

And like democrats that posts don't ever do that. It's called DEBATE.

Its called half truths, misleading, and deceptive!
I dont care which side does it!

why is it okay to save some people with stem cells but not okay to attmpt to help a nation that is in horrible troubles??
that is and could coninue to be terroist breeding ground.

we have alot of cancer treatments available and medically speaking can do miracoulous things already...
what the heck does a middle eastern person have for ways of cancer and medical treatments??

Embryonic Stem Cells



Human embryo growing inside a body
As their name suggests, embryonic stem cells come from living, human embryos. They are harvested from two sources.

• Embryos—Embryonic stem cells are obtained by harvesting living embryos which are generally 5-7 days old. The removal of embryonic stem cells invariably results in the destruction of the embryo.

• Fetuses—Another kind of stem cell called an embryonic germ cell can be obtained from either miscarriages or aborted fetuses.




The best stem cells come from Embryos!
These are found and used in in vitro fertilization clinics by the millions. I suppose you would take that right from people as well!

I'm wasn't referring to the terrorists. I'm saying that the lives of the soldiers that are lost because of this senseless war is just as equal as taking the life of an unborn child.

Like I said, a life is a life no matter what the age.