Topic: so glad
Lindyy's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:10 PM



Republican mentality!
Give out the information they want you to hear, and leave out that which they deem for you, isnt important!noway noway


And like democrats that posts don't ever do that. It's called DEBATE.


Its called half truths, misleading, and deceptive!
I dont care which side does it!



SO, since you are so adamant for EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research, which has yet to be proven to cure ANYTHING, am I to assume that you are in favor of killing of a human life?sick

Lindyy

Lindyy's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:15 PM


I do believe this proves the FACTS, NOT, someone's conjured up fantasy.

Lindyy
:heart:


Why do you leave out things then?

Left out information from the same site!

Embryonic Stem Cell Advantages
1. Flexible—appear to have the potential to make any cell
2. Immortal—one ES cell line can potentially provide an endless supply of cells with
defined characteristics
3. Availability—embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics


Adult Stem Cell Disadvantages
1. Limited quantity—can sometimes be difficult to obtain in large numbers
2. Finite—may not live as long as ES cells in culture
3. Less flexible (with the exception of #1 above)—may be more difficult to reprogram to
form other tissue types



Why did you leave out all the facts?
Did you think it was unimportant to give all of them?


Because, as you can very well see, they are irrelevant to the proven usefulness. You simply took up more space than necessary, that is another reason I omitted them. But, my dear, I DID LEAVE THE LINK TO WHERE I GOT THE INFORMATION. SO, IF ANYTHING WERE TO BE DECEIVING, IT IS MERELY YOUR OPINION.laugh laugh laugh

Lindyy

Fanta46's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:16 PM




Republican mentality!
Give out the information they want you to hear, and leave out that which they deem for you, isnt important!noway noway


And like democrats that posts don't ever do that. It's called DEBATE.


Its called half truths, misleading, and deceptive!
I dont care which side does it!



SO, since you are so adamant for EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research, which has yet to be proven to cure ANYTHING, am I to assume that you are in favor of killing of a human life?sick

Lindyy



Im for a womans right to chose!
After all I do have 4 sisters!

Winx's photo
Sat 06/28/08 10:37 PM
I donated my child's umbilical cord for this research.

Nobody is killing babies for stem cell research.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 06/28/08 10:51 PM

I donated my child's umbilical cord for this research.

Nobody is killing babies for stem cell research.


Thank you for that winx!!!flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Sat 06/28/08 11:14 PM


I donated my child's umbilical cord for this research.

Nobody is killing babies for stem cell research.


Thank you for that winx!!!flowerforyou


You're welcome, Fanta.flowerforyou


Lindyy's photo
Sun 06/29/08 07:53 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Sun 06/29/08 08:04 AM

I donated my child's umbilical cord for this research.

Nobody is killing babies for stem cell research.


Winx, you are a great woman!

People do not realize that embryonic stem cell has proven non-beneficial. It has yet to cure anything,

It is the adult stem cell research that is curing illnesses!

Lindyy
:heart: :heart:


http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/stemcells/sctoday/

Umbilical Cord Blood Stem Cell Transplant


Newborn infants no longer need their umbilical cords, so they have traditionally been discarded as a by-product of the birth process. In recent years, however, the multipotent-stem-cell-rich blood found in the umbilical cord has proven useful in treating the same types of health problems as those treated using bone marrow stem cells and PBSCs.

Umbilical cord blood stem cell transplants are less prone to rejection than either bone marrow or peripheral blood stem cells. This is probably because the cells have not yet developed the features that can be recognized and attacked by the recipient's immune system. Also, because umbilical cord blood lacks well-developed immune cells, there is less chance that the transplanted cells will attack the recipient's body, a problem called graft versus host disease.

Both the versatility and availability of umbilical cord blood stem cells makes them a potent resource for transplant therapies.



Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:00 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 06/29/08 08:01 AM
That's because Bush eliminated the use!

Here's the part you left from your post yesterday Lindy!



Embryonic Stem Cell Advantages
1. Flexible—appear to have the potential to make any cell
2. Immortal—one ES cell line can potentially provide an endless supply of cells with
defined characteristics
3. Availability—embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics

The best stem cells come from Embryos!
These are found and used in in vitro fertilization clinics by the millions. noway noway noway

Lindyy's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:02 AM

That's because Bush eliminated the use!

Here's the part you left from your post yesterday Lindy!



Embryonic Stem Cell Advantages
1. Flexible—appear to have the potential to make any cell
2. Immortal—one ES cell line can potentially provide an endless supply of cells with
defined characteristics
3. Availability—embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics

The best stem cells come from Embryos!
These are found and used in in vitro fertilization clinics by the millions. noway noway noway


TALK ABOUT TWISTED!! RE-READ MY ENTIRE POST ON ADULT STEM CELL AND THE FACT THAT EMBRYONIC STEM CELL HAS NOT CURED ANYTHING!!

My God.

Lindyy



Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:04 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 06/29/08 08:06 AM


That's because Bush eliminated the use!

Here's the part you left from your post yesterday Lindy!



Embryonic Stem Cell Advantages
1. Flexible—appear to have the potential to make any cell
2. Immortal—one ES cell line can potentially provide an endless supply of cells with
defined characteristics
3. Availability—embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics

The best stem cells come from Embryos!
These are found and used in in vitro fertilization clinics by the millions. noway noway noway


TALK ABOUT TWISTED!! RE-READ MY ENTIRE POST ON ADULT STEM CELL AND THE FACT THAT EMBRYONIC STEM CELL HAS NOT CURED ANYTHING!!

My God.

Lindyy





How can they?
Ignore the fact that Bush wont allow embryonic stem cell research!

Fact is that these stem cells can be programmed to be any cell in the body, and are the most promising!
Talk about twisted!

Lindyy's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:07 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Sun 06/29/08 08:09 AM



That's because Bush eliminated the use!

Here's the part you left from your post yesterday Lindy!



Embryonic Stem Cell Advantages
1. Flexible—appear to have the potential to make any cell
2. Immortal—one ES cell line can potentially provide an endless supply of cells with
defined characteristics
3. Availability—embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics

The best stem cells come from Embryos!
These are found and used in in vitro fertilization clinics by the millions. noway noway noway


TALK ABOUT TWISTED!! RE-READ MY ENTIRE POST ON ADULT STEM CELL AND THE FACT THAT EMBRYONIC STEM CELL HAS NOT CURED ANYTHING!!

My God.

Lindyy





Ignore the fact that Bush wont allow embryonic stem cell research!
Talk about twisted!


IT IS BECAUSE IT KILLS A HUMAN LIFE!! AN EMBRYO IS THE START OF A HUMAN LIFE!!!!!!!!

Even Winx just said "Nobody is killing babies for stem cell research."


sick sick sick sick

Lindyy's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:14 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Sun 06/29/08 08:16 AM


TALK ABOUT TWISTED!! RE-READ MY ENTIRE POST ON ADULT STEM CELL AND THE FACT THAT EMBRYONIC STEM CELL HAS NOT CURED ANYTHING!!

My God.

Lindyy





How can they?
Ignore the fact that Bush wont allow embryonic stem cell research!

Fact is that these stem cells can be programmed to be any cell in the body, and are the most promising!
Talk about twisted!





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President Bush put a stop on FEDERAL FUNDING OF EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH!! The embryonic stem cell researh still goes on by private funding.

Lindyy
PTL for President Bush:heart: :heart: :heart:

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:21 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 06/29/08 08:42 AM
These are called human embryonic stem cells. The embryos used in these studies were created for infertility purposes through in vitro fertilization procedures and when they were no longer needed for that purpose, they were donated for research with the informed consent of the donor.

Stem cells are important for living organisms for many reasons. In the 3- to 5-day-old embryo, called a blastocyst, stem cells in developing tissues give rise to the multiple specialized cell types that make up the heart, lung, skin, and other tissues. In some adult tissues, such as bone marrow, muscle, and brain, discrete populations of adult stem cells generate replacements for cells that are lost through normal wear and tear, injury, or disease. Embryonic stem cells can be used to repair the human heart, liver, kidneys, etc. Adult stem cells cant!
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics1.asp


So you see, if you read that, that embryonic stem cells are very important for developing cells for organs, while adult stem cells wont do that! Adult stem cells are also of no use for work on diseases's like Parkinsons, and other nerve related diseases! They do have some use, but it is a very limited use!

http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics1.asp

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:34 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 06/29/08 08:36 AM
Plain and simple!
Bush is an idiot. He allows the Christian right to stand in the way of good common sense!
Federal funding is needed to attract the best scientist and speed the Research into the most promising line of Stem cells!
Without it many Universities are unable to get involved.

His and the Christian rights's logic is not to destroy a 5 day old human embryo, but the fact is that the embryo scientist want to use are developed outside the womb and are being frozen, eventually thrown away. Thrown in the garbage where they do no good. Not for science and never to develop into a human being!

Congratulations on the waste!

buttons's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:38 AM
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Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:40 AM

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OK, You got me!!grumble grumble

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:42 AM

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That was just mean buttons!!!laugh laugh :wink:

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Sun 06/29/08 08:44 AM
Edited by rtaylor74 on Sun 06/29/08 08:44 AM
Why debate it? We don't need any type of research at all.

Diseases can't be cured.
Oil is the only way to generate energy.
Global warming is a myth.
Any war waged by the US is just, because God loves us, and no one else.
Freedom of religion is the cornerstone of this country! As long as it's Christianty.
Fiscal responsibility is defined as the practice of writing a 'blank check' for military action in a 1900 year old war that will inevitably end in a stalemate (at best) with an Islamic Fundamentalist Iranian backed government - while at the same time watching the dollar become the equivalent of the peso in 8 years.
Big Business does not need oversight. The credit crisis wasn't spurred by financial institutions' greed. It was caused by the stupidity and gullability of the American Consumer!


God Bless America... And no place else.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:45 AM

Why debate it? We don't need any type of research at all.

Diseases can't be cured.
Oil is the only way to generate energy.
Global warming is a myth.
Any war waged by the US is just, because God loves us, and no one else.
Freedom of religion is the cornerstone of this country! As long as it's Christianty.
Fiscal responsibility is defined as the practice of writing a 'blank check' for military action in a 1900 year old war that will inevitably end in a stalemate (at best) with an Islamic Fundamentalist Iranian backed government - while at the same time watching the dollar become the equivalent of the peso in 8 years.
Big Business does not need oversight. The credit crisis wasn't spurred by financial institutions' greed. It was caused by the stupidity and gullability of the American Consumer!


God Bless America... And no place else.


I like you!!!drinker drinker

VOTE OBAMA!!!!

plk1966's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:49 AM
Though both Fanta and Lindy make valid points, I think you all are missing the most important part. If it weren't for the servicemen and women risking their lives for our freedom, The United states would have the ability or the freedom to do any stem cell research. So everyone needs to thank a soldier for the sacrifices they make in order to give up the opportunity to speak our minds.:smile: