Topic: so glad
Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:49 AM

Though both Fanta and Lindy make valid points, I think you all are missing the most important part. If it weren't for the servicemen and women risking their lives for our freedom, The United states would have the ability or the freedom to do any stem cell research. So everyone needs to thank a soldier for the sacrifices they make in order to give up the opportunity to speak our minds.:smile:


You're welcomedrinker

willy_cents's photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:53 AM
IMAO...the major difference between wars and abortions is the layer of moral responsibility involved. Most wars are started by politicians for reasons of their own import, and there is review and condemnation for their actions. Abortions are only different in the fact that there is no review and no condemnation for the action. Neither action is right, but, each pays a price in the end for the action; one in public condemnation, and one in an erosion of their personal esteem.


In view of the recent supreme court decision on the death penalty for raping a child, I was interested in the liberals response..."We must protect the children!!!" while under their breath they followed that with "Except for the ones we advocate killing before they were born." I suppose that their real hope is that all babies will be aborted, then they will be relieved of the responsibility of protecting any children, and responsibility for their actions is one thing liberals always try to avoid and blame on others

no photo
Sun 06/29/08 08:57 AM
Ahhh... The old smoke and mirrors debate...

The old "Yeah, well... Ummm... You kill these, so I can kill those!!" routine...

Heard it before. It's tired.

Tell ya what. I propose the 'left' and 'right' call a truce on this whole right to life thing... It's simple. Liberals will give up the right to choose, IF conservatives give up that pesky freedom of religion thing. Deal? I mean, after all... Since we're going to legislate personal freedoms that some of us don't agree with (even though it doesn't affect those lives in any way, shape or form), then it's only fair that you give one up to. Simple as that.

MsCarmen's photo
Sun 06/29/08 09:05 AM

Though both Fanta and Lindy make valid points, I think you all are missing the most important part. If it weren't for the servicemen and women risking their lives for our freedom, The United states would have the ability or the freedom to do any stem cell research. So everyone needs to thank a soldier for the sacrifices they make in order to give up the opportunity to speak our minds.:smile:


Well I must be confused then, because I'm not understanding how this war is supporting my freedoms and my rights. I support the troops in whatever job they do, because that is their job and they are just doing what they are told. But how is this war helping to support our freedoms? I don't see it benefiting America one bit.

plk1966's photo
Sun 06/29/08 09:16 AM


Though both Fanta and Lindy make valid points, I think you all are missing the most important part. If it weren't for the servicemen and women risking their lives for our freedom, The United states would have the ability or the freedom to do any stem cell research. So everyone needs to thank a soldier for the sacrifices they make in order to give up the opportunity to speak our minds.:smile:


Well I must be confused then, because I'm not understanding how this war is supporting my freedoms and my rights. I support the troops in whatever job they do, because that is their job and they are just doing what they are told. But how is this war helping to support our freedoms? I don't see it benefiting America one bit.


This war benefits America by not allowing terrorism to continue. The freedom it gives you to speak your mind without being condoned for it or killed even. The freedom of walking down a street and not worrying if a suicide bombing is near you. The freedom of allowing you to have your opinion different from mine and that is ok. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and no one is right or wrong it is just that your opinion.flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 09:22 AM
No, no, no, no, no,
Im always right, even when Im left!bigsmile

plk1966's photo
Sun 06/29/08 09:27 AM

No, no, no, no, no,
Im always right, even when Im left!bigsmile

laugh laugh laugh :banana: :banana:

MsCarmen's photo
Sun 06/29/08 09:56 AM
This war was started based on a lie. We all know that. But when the lie started to unfold, they changed it to "We are going after Sadam." Well, we got Sadam and he is dead and now all we are doing is fighting in a country that has become co-dependent on us and doesn't want to do anything for themselves. How is that fighting for my rights and freedoms? All I see is that we are benefiting Iraq, not us.

And as far as the terrorist go, when was the last time we heard about any progress of us getting any closer to getting Osama?

plk1966's photo
Sun 06/29/08 10:13 AM
Mscarmen, you are right the cause of the war has changed many times over the years. As far as hearing about getting closer to Osama, homeland security isn't gonna let the public know too much.

Lindyy's photo
Sun 06/29/08 01:00 PM


This war benefits America by not allowing terrorism to continue. The freedom it gives you to speak your mind without being condoned for it or killed even. The freedom of walking down a street and not worrying if a suicide bombing is near you. The freedom of allowing you to have your opinion different from mine and that is ok. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and no one is right or wrong it is just that your opinion.flowerforyou


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Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:07 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 06/29/08 02:15 PM





bush is almost out of office. heres one more reason why he needs to go. in stem cell research which he is against he says,"we are not going to take lives to save lives", ok then if "we" r not going to do this then why r we in iraq?isn't this going on in iraq?


The two cannot even be compared!!

President Bush, and so am I and any other evangelical Christian, are against EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research.






What's the difference? A life is being taken! Whether it is an unborn child or an Adult, a life is a life no matter what age. When is the senseless killing going to stop?


Gee? I don't know? Why don't you ask a terrorist...???

Don't compare a terrorist with an unborn child...


america ws found guilty bythe world court of state sponcored terrorism rather Ironic but of course the liberal mainstream media hardly even gave it a laugh blurb


Uh...last time I looked those countries are thugs & it's reflected in the way they treat their own people. Why would I care what they think.

Now I realize many Americans can't tell the difference anymore...therein lies our national problem.

buffry's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:08 PM

bush is almost out of office. heres one more reason why he needs to go. in stem cell research which he is against he says,"we are not going to take lives to save lives", ok then if "we" r not going to do this then why r we in iraq?isn't this going on in iraq?



Good for you! I thoroughly agree, hon!

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:12 PM





bush is almost out of office. heres one more reason why he needs to go. in stem cell research which he is against he says,"we are not going to take lives to save lives", ok then if "we" r not going to do this then why r we in iraq?isn't this going on in iraq?


The two cannot even be compared!!

President Bush, and so am I and any other evangelical Christian, are against EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research.






What's the difference? A life is being taken! Whether it is an unborn child or an Adult, a life is a life no matter what age. When is the senseless killing going to stop?


Gee? I don't know? Why don't you ask a terrorist...???

Don't compare a terrorist with an unborn child...



I'm wasn't referring to the terrorists. I'm saying that the lives of the soldiers that are lost because of this senseless war is just as equal as taking the life of an unborn child.

Like I said, a life is a life no matter what the age.


Uh...there needs to be clarification as to what is considered innocent life....

I hardly think life in the womb or a life sacrificed for our national protection is the same as that of murdering terrorists with their stone age mentality.

BTW...I haven't heard one person talk about how they would solve a problem of people who just want to kill off other people & the brutality of nations like the sudan & syria?

I think alot of the anger is misdirected.

buffry's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:14 PM
If we are talking about stem cell research I just wanted to give the point that, 100's of 1000's of fertilized eggs are harvested daily and thrown in the trash either way. Why not use them to save a human life???

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:17 PM

If we are talking about stem cell research I just wanted to give the point that, 100's of 1000's of fertilized eggs are harvested daily and thrown in the trash either way. Why not use them to save a human life???


I have to say after perusing your posts...you are a very bitter person who blames God for all the mistakes you made in your life. You really need to get over that...it's not very becoming.

Just sayin....

buffry's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:19 PM
Edited by buffry on Sun 06/29/08 02:24 PM


Way to be off subject and insulting. I am not bitter by any means. I am a very good person and treat those I love very well. But if you had a clue as to who I am at all, you would know that now wouldn't you. Do not insult me for my lack of faith in YOUR God. This kind of attitude is what makes me bitter hon!

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:31 PM

If we are talking about stem cell research I just wanted to give the point that, 100's of 1000's of fertilized eggs are harvested daily and thrown in the trash either way. Why not use them to save a human life???


Thank you very much!
You are exactly correct!
flowerforyou

buffry's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:33 PM


If we are talking about stem cell research I just wanted to give the point that, 100's of 1000's of fertilized eggs are harvested daily and thrown in the trash either way. Why not use them to save a human life???


Thank you very much!
You are exactly correct!
flowerforyou


You are very welcome...Just scientifically correct is all. Who knows what the moral truth is.

Lord_Psycho's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:37 PM
Well y not use stem cell research n save lives we are already killin lives in the war in Iraq! That was a stupid move not usin stem cell research, they couldve created new treatments n cures for everything.

adj4u's photo
Sun 06/29/08 02:58 PM
as long as abortion is an option stem cell research should be pursued

there is a double standard otherwise