Topic: NO Contradictions in the Bible .....
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Mon 06/30/08 09:44 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 06/30/08 09:47 AM





Love thy neighbor? Nope... for Joshua it was kill them all and take the promised land.

And the war for the promised land IS STILL GOING ON!!

STOP THAT WAR! STOP SUPPORTING ZIONISM!

What do you think the war in Iraq is all about? What do you thing the tension with Iran is all about?

Its about Israel and that stupid idea about the stupid promised land. And many Christians are supporting that idea like they believe it.

JB




Excuse me while I put on my political hat....

I'm glad JB that you're showing what a bigot you really are.

It's ok for terrorists to hold oil over everyone's head because of their backward irrational hate for Jews???? You need to get your head out of your "you know what" & rethink these DUMB remarks!


Quikstepper

That you don't know the difference between Zionism and the Jewish religion or the Jewish people shows who is making the dumb remarks.

There is a very large organization of Jews who are venomously opposed to Zionism. Zionism is a political movement, and it is involved in terrorism all over the world.

I have nothing whatever against the Jewish religion or the Jewish people. I appose Zionism. I appose the state of Israel as much as I appose the slaughter of people by Joshua for the so called "Promised land."

Zionism is the root of terrorism in this world.

To accuse someone of being a "bigot" because they appose a political agenda and the terrorism behind it is an old trick.

That is because people don't know the difference between Zionism and the Jewish religion or the Jewish people.

Most Zionist are not religious at all. They are war mongers.
Get educated for a change please.

JB


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Mon 06/30/08 09:50 AM






Love thy neighbor? Nope... for Joshua it was kill them all and take the promised land.

And the war for the promised land IS STILL GOING ON!!

STOP THAT WAR! STOP SUPPORTING ZIONISM!

What do you think the war in Iraq is all about? What do you thing the tension with Iran is all about?

Its about Israel and that stupid idea about the stupid promised land. And many Christians are supporting that idea like they believe it.

JB




Excuse me while I put on my political hat....

I'm glad JB that you're showing what a bigot you really are.

It's ok for terrorists to hold oil over everyone's head because of their backward irrational hate for Jews???? You need to get your head out of your "you know what" & rethink these DUMB remarks!


Quikstepper

That you don't know the difference between Zionism and the Jewish religion or the Jewish people shows who is making the dumb remarks.

There is a very large organization of Jews who are venomously opposed to Zionism. Zionism is a political movement, and it is involved in terrorism all over the world.

I have nothing whatever against the Jewish religion or the Jewish people. I appose Zionism. I appose the state of Israel as much as I appose the slaughter of people by Joshua for the so called "Promised land."

Zionism is the root of terrorism in this world.

To accuse someone of being a "bigot" because they appose a political agenda and the terrorism behind it is an old trick.

That is because people don't know the difference between Zionism and the Jewish religion or the Jewish people.

Most Zionist are not religious at all. They are war mongers.
Get educated for a change please.

JB




"Ignorance is such bliss to those who feel they have all the right information they need"

S.Q.P. 1998 (c) AT CL.

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Mon 06/30/08 09:51 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 06/30/08 09:53 AM
Zionism has existed for over 2000 years. Zionism is the name given to the desire for Jews to have their land back. Since the invasion by Babylon, the Jews have wanted Israel back in their hands. To claim that Judaism and Zionism are different things is to ignore 2,400 years of recorded history.

Let me be clear...Zionism is a new name (1800's) for the old desire to have Israel back in the hands of the Jews. Sorry for any confusion.

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Mon 06/30/08 09:55 AM



And yes show me pics....of slaves in Egypt being treated bad.


"feralcatlady"...you just stated that they were slaves which is an indication that they lack the free choice to live their lives ...do you actually need a picture to know that this is bad treatment ..

to suggest that someone is a slave but they are treated well is a contradiction


The simple fact is....yes they were slaves....but again people not knowing scripture or you would know how very well they were treated...and do you think if they were treated as bad as you seem to think...that when given their freedom, land, etc...that they said no...and stayed...I think not.


We are all slaves LOL! We are slaves to our jobs and our lifestyles, and our houses we live in, and to the government. We work and pay income taxes, and taxes on everything we buy, and even on services. We are in debt, all of us. Our country is in deep debt, our money is worthless, there is no gold backing the dollar anymore. We are at the mercy of the people who own us. Yes we are slaves. Some of us are well treated though. We are taken care of, on welfare, on benefits, etc.

Yes we are all slaves. No one can free us but ourselves. Get out of debt. Try to become more self sufficient. That is all you can do.

The best way to have slaves is when they think they are free.
We think we are free. In our soul we are, but in our lives, we are considered slaves of the system.

JB

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Mon 06/30/08 10:06 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 06/30/08 10:07 AM

Zionism has existed for over 2000 years. Zionism is the name given to the desire for Jews to have their land back. Since the invasion by Babylon, the Jews have wanted Israel back in their hands. To claim that Judaism and Zionism are different things is to ignore 2,400 years of recorded history.

Let me be clear...Zionism is a new name (1800's) for the old desire to have Israel back in the hands of the Jews. Sorry for any confusion.


The political movement of Zionism is steeped in ancient false dogma and religious doctrine and that is nonsense.

It began with the myth that god promised the so-called "chosen people" a land of their own. It also began with slaughter of the people living in that land and that slaughter and war has continued and gone on for 2000 years you speak of.

God did not promise that land or any land to anyone. That is a myth and a false and altered doctrine. There are no "chosen people" of the true god. The only "chosen" people are probably the ones who were genetically altered by an advanced race of aliens mistaken for gods.

Every conflict and world war on earth has to do with the Zionist agenda to get the Jews to occupy Israel. There is a reason for this agenda and that reason has been shrouded in lies and religious propaganda.

Zionism does not represent the Jewish people or the Jewish religion. This is fact. Educate yourself just a little tiny bit please and stop reading and believing all that propaganda the Zionist are putting out.

JB




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Mon 06/30/08 10:12 AM
Evangelical Christians support Zionism and they are sending our children to war to fight for a political agenda for Israel, because they fell for the lie that Jews are god's "chosen people" and they believe that the Zionist in Israel are those Jews. They are not. They have an agenda, and it does not include Christians, but for now they will sure let you send your sons to die for them.

Israel's government is one step away from a dictatorship, and mossad is a terrorist organization.

JB

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Mon 06/30/08 10:16 AM

Evangelical Christians support Zionism and they are sending our children to war to fight for a political agenda for Israel, because they fell for the lie that Jews are god's "chosen people" and they believe that the Zionist in Israel are those Jews. They are not. They have an agenda, and it does not include Christians, but for now they will sure let you send your sons to die for them.

Israel's government is one step away from a dictatorship, and mossad is a terrorist organization.

JB


Thank you very much JB for the clarification of these important issues .
flowerforyou drinker waving .

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Mon 06/30/08 10:18 AM
Edited by tribo on Mon 06/30/08 10:21 AM

Zionism has existed for over 2000 years. Zionism is the name given to the desire for Jews to have their land back. Since the invasion by Babylon, the Jews have wanted Israel back in their hands. To claim that Judaism and Zionism are different things is to ignore 2,400 years of recorded history.

Let me be clear...Zionism is a new name (1800's) for the old desire to have Israel back in the hands of the Jews. Sorry for any confusion.



yes your clear - but the Zionist are poltical not religious movement, the isreal that exsist today is not the isreal of old - the land was taken from them and jerusalem destroyed by your god, all there promises were taken and given to a stranger's - god's / jesus church - never will there be another "new jerusalem" that took place when the church was established. they (the church) are symbolic of revelation's "new" jerusalem. THe land for the jew's was conceded to them in 1948 thru Balfour and the other;s who sought a solution to the jew's to give tnem a land (the zionist) and allowed them to return to the area, it had nothing to do with fullfilling scripture of any kind that is stupid dispesational beief's of darby,scofeid,and the followers of superstition and misguided symbolic misgiving's of men. ALL of revelation's has taken plce not one prophecy is left to you except the final judgement. NONE.

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Mon 06/30/08 10:19 AM
Not for debate! Just a jokelaugh

In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.

Then God created Man and rested.

Then God created Woman.

Since then, neither God nor Man has rested!!!laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 06/30/08 10:20 AM
They now need a vacation and some hot women!

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Mon 06/30/08 10:26 AM



And yes show me pics....of slaves in Egypt being treated bad.


"feralcatlady"...you just stated that they were slaves which is an indication that they lack the free choice to live their lives ...do you actually need a picture to know that this is bad treatment ..

to suggest that someone is a slave but they are treated well is a contradiction


The simple fact is....yes they were slaves....but again people not knowing scripture or you would know how very well they were treated...and do you think if they were treated as bad as you seem to think...that when given their freedom, land, etc...that they said no...and stayed...I think not.


"Pharoah-catlady" ...so where in the those scriptures did it say that Pharoah give the slaves therapist sessions to talk about the mental toll that being a slave was having on them ....

also I remember Moses telling Pharoah to "let his people go" probably a clear indication that they didn't want to be pharoah's slaves but God's slaves ..God apparently gave them a deal they couldn't refuse ...Pharoah made slaves through force and God made slaves through fear

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Mon 06/30/08 10:44 AM

Not for debate! Just a jokelaugh

In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.

Then God created Man and rested.

Then God created Woman.

Since then, neither God nor Man has rested!!!laugh laugh laugh



It is the woman who never gets to rest. A man works all his life helping and supporting his wife and family, his wife works all her life raising their children, cooking, and even working outside the home.

Then when the man retires, he comes home and sits on the couch and still expect his wife to cook and clean and wait on his ass until the day she dies.

Women unite! When your husband retires, divorce him or tell him you are also retiring and he can get up off his couch and fix his own supper. :angry: drinker drinker

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Mon 06/30/08 10:49 AM


Not for debate! Just a jokelaugh

In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.

Then God created Man and rested.

Then God created Woman.

Since then, neither God nor Man has rested!!!laugh laugh laugh



It is the woman who never gets to rest. A man works all his life helping and supporting his wife and family, his wife works all her life raising their children, cooking, and even working outside the home.

Then when the man retires, he comes home and sits on the couch and still expect his wife to cook and clean and wait on his ass until the day she dies.

Women unite! When your husband retires, divorce him or tell him you are also retiring and he can get up off his couch and fix his own supper. :angry: drinker drinker


Hey hey hey! wait a minute here! I cook, clean, take care of my child, and bring in a income! My wife only works and comes home to eat! laugh laugh


Besides it was just a joke Jeannie not for debate!!! laugh laugh


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Mon 06/30/08 11:00 AM


Zionism has existed for over 2000 years. Zionism is the name given to the desire for Jews to have their land back. Since the invasion by Babylon, the Jews have wanted Israel back in their hands. To claim that Judaism and Zionism are different things is to ignore 2,400 years of recorded history.

Let me be clear...Zionism is a new name (1800's) for the old desire to have Israel back in the hands of the Jews. Sorry for any confusion.



yes your clear - but the Zionist are poltical not religious movement, the isreal that exsist today is not the isreal of old - the land was taken from them and jerusalem destroyed by your god, all there promises were taken and given to a stranger's - god's / jesus church - never will there be another "new jerusalem" that took place when the church was established. they (the church) are symbolic of revelation's "new" jerusalem. THe land for the jew's was conceded to them in 1948 thru Balfour and the other;s who sought a solution to the jew's to give tnem a land (the zionist) and allowed them to return to the area, it had nothing to do with fullfilling scripture of any kind that is stupid dispesational beief's of darby,scofeid,and the followers of superstition and misguided symbolic misgiving's of men. ALL of revelation's has taken plce not one prophecy is left to you except the final judgement. NONE.


What does that have anything to do with what I posted? Perhaps you just needed to get that off of your chest. I completely disagree with your interpretation of Revelation, there are many events which have not happened and could not have happened. But that's a discussion for another day.

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Mon 06/30/08 11:02 AM


Not for debate! Just a jokelaugh

In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.

Then God created Man and rested.

Then God created Woman.

Since then, neither God nor Man has rested!!!laugh laugh laugh



It is the woman who never gets to rest. A man works all his life helping and supporting his wife and family, his wife works all her life raising their children, cooking, and even working outside the home.

Then when the man retires, he comes home and sits on the couch and still expect his wife to cook and clean and wait on his ass until the day she dies.

Women unite! When your husband retires, divorce him or tell him you are also retiring and he can get up off his couch and fix his own supper. :angry: drinker drinker



you got that right!!!tongue2

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Mon 06/30/08 11:13 AM
Okay okay I will be fair!laugh

Not for debate! Just a joke laugh laugh

In the beginning, God created the earth and rested.

Then God created Man and rested.

Then God created Woman.

Since then, neither God nor Man or Woman has rested!!!laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 06/30/08 11:31 AM
Yeah they all need a vacation!

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Mon 06/30/08 12:31 PM


Zionism has existed for over 2000 years. Zionism is the name given to the desire for Jews to have their land back. Since the invasion by Babylon, the Jews have wanted Israel back in their hands. To claim that Judaism and Zionism are different things is to ignore 2,400 years of recorded history.

Let me be clear...Zionism is a new name (1800's) for the old desire to have Israel back in the hands of the Jews. Sorry for any confusion.


The political movement of Zionism is steeped in ancient false dogma and religious doctrine and that is nonsense.

It began with the myth that god promised the so-called "chosen people" a land of their own. It also began with slaughter of the people living in that land and that slaughter and war has continued and gone on for 2000 years you speak of.

God did not promise that land or any land to anyone. That is a myth and a false and altered doctrine. There are no "chosen people" of the true god. The only "chosen" people are probably the ones who were genetically altered by an advanced race of aliens mistaken for gods.

Every conflict and world war on earth has to do with the Zionist agenda to get the Jews to occupy Israel. There is a reason for this agenda and that reason has been shrouded in lies and religious propaganda.

Zionism does not represent the Jewish people or the Jewish religion. This is fact. Educate yourself just a little tiny bit please and stop reading and believing all that propaganda the Zionist are putting out.

JB






I've made statements of fact.

1) Israel was a nation.
2) The Jews were conquered by the Babylonians.
3) The Jews have saught to reestablish Israel for 2,400 years.

You have made gratuitous assertions.

"The political movement of Zionism is steeped in ancient false dogma and religious doctrine and that is nonsense.", etc.

Your post in no way refutes my own. So I will not attempt to refute your arguments, as they have absolutely no merit.

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Mon 06/30/08 01:27 PM



Zionism has existed for over 2000 years. Zionism is the name given to the desire for Jews to have their land back. Since the invasion by Babylon, the Jews have wanted Israel back in their hands. To claim that Judaism and Zionism are different things is to ignore 2,400 years of recorded history.

Let me be clear...Zionism is a new name (1800's) for the old desire to have Israel back in the hands of the Jews. Sorry for any confusion.


The political movement of Zionism is steeped in ancient false dogma and religious doctrine and that is nonsense.

It began with the myth that god promised the so-called "chosen people" a land of their own. It also began with slaughter of the people living in that land and that slaughter and war has continued and gone on for 2000 years you speak of.

God did not promise that land or any land to anyone. That is a myth and a false and altered doctrine. There are no "chosen people" of the true god. The only "chosen" people are probably the ones who were genetically altered by an advanced race of aliens mistaken for gods.

Every conflict and world war on earth has to do with the Zionist agenda to get the Jews to occupy Israel. There is a reason for this agenda and that reason has been shrouded in lies and religious propaganda.

Zionism does not represent the Jewish people or the Jewish religion. This is fact. Educate yourself just a little tiny bit please and stop reading and believing all that propaganda the Zionist are putting out.

JB






I've made statements of fact.

1) Israel was a nation.
2) The Jews were conquered by the Babylonians.
3) The Jews have saught to reestablish Israel for 2,400 years.

You have made gratuitous assertions.

"The political movement of Zionism is steeped in ancient false dogma and religious doctrine and that is nonsense.", etc.

Your post in no way refutes my own. So I will not attempt to refute your arguments, as they have absolutely no merit.


Well if they were conquered by the Babylonians 2400 years ago, they should just forget it. That is ancient history. I don't feel sorry for their ancestors enough to send my children to war to protect them. You live in America because the Native American People were conquered. How are you going to feel if they decided to take back the land that was stolen from them enlisting the help of Russian troops? Hey, what would be wrong with that? They are just trying to regain their lost nation.

Zionism is a threat to the entire peace of the world. Even the religion denies your Christ and spits on your faith. I don't understand why Evangelic Christians send their sons to die for them.

JB


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Mon 06/30/08 01:34 PM

Even the religion denies your Christ and spits on your faith. I don't understand why Evangelic Christians send their sons to die for them.


That's a lie, Jews and Christians have a great deal in common. I haven't met a single Jew who "spits" upon my faith. And why would you be concerned about who "spits" upon my faith? It certainly doesn't stop you from doing so and you don't repremand anyone else who does it. No, it's anti-semitism that drives your "concern" at Christianity being "spit" upon.