There is a smell on your feet?

Is that the same as when your nose runs and yor feet smell, you are upside down?

But you are the same as the majority of Christians on here.
You are happy to throw up the banner of Jesus loves, but then when anyone questions it, you throw the dummy out of the pram and get upset.

How can you not expect people to question your beliefs when you wear them so loudly.

Does it really shake your "strong faith" that much?

It isnt that strong really then, is it?

You rock!

Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says.

and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care!

What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended.


The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer.

It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this.

What a bunch of bull crap!!!

I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me

why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz

So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes.

I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me

why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz

So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes.

I don't think he is asking why would you worship a God you don't believe in. I agree that would be a silly question indeed. I believe what he is asking is after you spend your life worshipping this God, what if when you die and go to heaven, The God that you have been worshipping all these years isn't like the God of the bible at all and the heaven you are in is not as you imagined it. At least that is how I interpreted the question.

I still say the same thing......not because I am trying to be a pain....but because I just don't by it....But ok say for the sake of argument.....that this is true......heck I can't.....nope It's like I ask people if God came to you and in your ear said, "I am the living God".....would you believe it then. For me I am who I am because of experiences...not because of just a blind faith........So for me this is not an option.....

And I understand that, but see for me it would be the complete opposite. I could have someone walk up to me on the street and tell me that they are the living God and I would still ask for proof. To be fair though i think you would too. If a man who looks like he is homeless, or even for arguments sake a well dressed buisness man walked up to you one day and told you that they are the living God. What would you do?

I am not trying to be argumentative here. I really am curious. After all Jesus came in human form claiming he was the son of God and people believed him. So say someone walked up to you and told you he was the living God and he wanted you to follow him and travel with him and spread his word. Would you drop everything right there and go with him or would you be skeptical?

First off if the living God came to you and said I am who I am...trust me you would know it. He did and I listened....I have told my story countless times...but would do it again if it would help you to see where I am coming from


1st encounter with the living God......

About 16 years ago I went to my neigbors to borrow something. I asked them what it meant to be born again. In means basically to die to your sin and give your life to God. I talked to them for about 2 hours....I felt something within me.....I had no clue then.....I gave my life to God that day....I then went on a mission to read the Bible...For the next year I read it over and over and over. The more I did the more God spoke to my heart in a very quiet voice. I also learned anything and everything about all religions of the world.

2nd encounter with the living God.

My mother was very very sick dying of cancer.....I was a baby Christian at the time...but nonetheless I believed strongly in the power of prayer. I did pray for the Lord to help me financially so that I could take care of my mother.....About 2 weeks later.....the house next door to me was up for sale by the bank...They were in the process of cleaning it up and said we could check it out, and take anything we wanted. So we did....It was a mess...and amongst the mess I found a black trash bag...inside was more then 10,000.00 of bills marked from 1954 to 1967. I thought first off how odd....as the house was foreclosed. I never saw anyone again from the bank and the house was sold. I tried to get ahold of the previous owners...but to no avail.....(prayer answered)


3rd encounter with the Living God.

I was now able to take care of my mother and provide for my family. I came home to get more clothes and was in the middle of my driveway. I asked the Lord God...."If you are real, show me a sign." Just then thousands of lil lavendar butterflies were all around me.....and not a few but thousands I was touching them and then bam they were gone. Now I have seen these lil butterflies in a pale yellow but never in lavendar...mine and my mother's fav color. (prayer answered)


4th Encounter with the Living God.

I then went back to my moms...and she was very very sick....I then went out into her backyard...She lived in the Mojave Desert and if you are familiar with it....Very very clear crystal days. This day there was not one cloud in the sky.....Again I asked, "Lord if you are real, show me a sign." Just as I spoke the last word a funnel cloud of pinks, blues greens came right to me.....(Prayer answered)

5th Encounter with the Living God.

I went back in the house and was just in awe of what has been happening to me. When I went to kiss my mom and I sat down. She said, "No mom and dad I can't. Who is going to take care of Debbie and Bill (dad) I knew what was happening and told my mom to go.....go to your mom and dad.....15 minutes later she was gone.....

I have many many more that I could tell you....but I think you get the jest.....You are also free to look up my prayer threads where time and time again miracles are happening right here on jsh.

So when someone spews to me what you have....does it upset me....you bet it does. I am walking the path set forth by the Living God....The God that has shown me time and time again that He is very real. It is a narrow path that I walk....but one I walk gladly......For the Lord my God has reveiled himself over and over again to me.

And even now if I stumble which I do.....or I sin which I do.....he speaks to my heart and set me on the right path again. The Lord has even hit me upside my head and asked what are you doing....The biggest difference between me and you or people that think like you do....Is they don't listen.....I do.....

I have told my experiences in many many threads....not just the coffeehouse. And anyone is welcome there.....I don't discriminate who or who doesn't come to my threads ever. And you very welcome for the share.

I know you don't intentionally say anything to upset. And I for sure feel strongly that you and anyone else are entitled to believe as you wish. What I will not tolerate is someone saying my God, His Son Jesus Christ and the Bible are myths......then the pitbull for Christ will be on ya every time. I again say to you....don't it's your choice....but it can't be denied that they are happening all around us....I have no problem with Karma...because I believe that basically every human being with whatever they do in life...It will either come back to you ten fold or it will bite you in the butt (karma)


But also understand that God answers prayers on his time. And when people think I pray and pray and he doesn't answer....This is a total wrong frame of mind. I would ask them. Why is it when life is peaches and cream do you thank God? And why is it that when things are bad in peoples lives they want to blame God. I know again through my own experiences that everything is done in God's time and for his purpose. But I also know that my faith is sooooooo strong and unwavering and this is what connects human being to the Living God.

I think the main difference is that I pray knowing that God when it is right will answer prayer. When my friend Kitt madamx (jsh) was diagnosed for the second time with Cancer....I put a prayer chain. Within 9 days of being diagnosed she went back to doctors who showed her the pictures and had circled where all the cancer was.....gone gone gone. Now I know that the Lord my God answered this prayer....Why? Because even though I had been talking to kitt for awhile she had doubts...and after this she was on fire for the Lord. Does that mean that others things don't happen...of course not.....the cancer returned to her intestines and she has mutliple other things going on. But she knows now and is a testimony to God for what he has done in her life...And to me for God this is what it is all about. If one person can give testimony to things in their life and it brings that person to have a personal relationship with Christ.....then all worth it.. So you might have to have ask your Christian friends where their hearts are when they are praying and asking for God's intervention.


If it seems like it's getting worse....then know that God is using them for some other purpose. We have this wonderful wonderful Christian man at church who has battled cancer 17 times over the same amount of years.....He has given testimony after testmony of God Grace and healing....But this does not stop it from happening? Why do you think that is? Because God has a greater purpose for him. And has he in all those years ever gotten mad at God....not once....His faith is that strong.


It's not that God won't help all, if the prayer is coming from the right place....It just means it's not time yet. I don't at all think I am any more special then any other human being......and like I said.....How many people fluff off when the Lord is trying to speak to them. Don't fluff it off......Stop and really listen...Now another thing that makes it really hard for people is to use the Bible as it was intended. I can't tell you how many times when I am ministering to people and I say Lord please give me the words and the wisdom and the scripture I need. I will open the Bible and there it is. Although my teachers don't like it so much...It works for me. Also understand that the Lord my God is with me every waking moment of every day. If I am not ministering or praying....I am anointing him and thanking for all that he does in my life....And all the Glory to God always.


And this is exactly what I mean. Your ears and eyes in your opinion are open to hearing the word of God...But sweetie your heart is closed and you will never hear from God if you don't believe in Him with every fiber of your being. You can ask from now until doomsday....He will never answer....

Matthew 13: 10-23

10The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"

11He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:
"Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
" 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15For this people's heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'[a] 16But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

18"Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away. 22The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful. 23But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown."

It is not a matter of luck......It is all about Faith and the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ...It is said before Christ comes back every man woman and child will know his word. But also God gave you freewill to choose....You can either choose to follow Christ or not. There is no luck involved.

Now also understand one more thing. About 15 years ago I was at church a baby Christian and a Prophet by the name of Lola came to our church. She was giving a word of God to all the elder women of the church. I was sitting there thinking this is such crap. Then she came to me....She looked and looked away and then with a tear in her eye....she said the Lord has big plans for you...But you must forgive your brother. She ad my full attention as no one knew and I mean no one....So I knew right then and there that God was speaking through Lola. She went on to say your going to be like a paper boy on the street of New York City, "Come come hear about the Lord." Now I could of ignored but Lola also said you are going to be receiving many gifts of the Lord. Tongues, and prophecy. I listened, took notes and that was that....10 years later I was given those gifts. And I don't take them lightly at all. I know am a humble servant of God and no matter what anyone says...they would never in a million billion years convince me God is not real.

And of course sweet man.....You can believe anything you wish.....If yo believe that God doesn't have his seed firmly planted within me....your choice....but I say unto you......I do know......and God humbles me, loves me, and has made my life a wonderful thing, in which all the gifts he bestowes on me are given back to others in my life 10 fold.....Do you think that us meeting right now right at this moment was a fluke? nope......God does things always with purpose and puts people in others path with great great purpose.


God Bless

I was just reading this thread. I don't think anyone disagree's that you have seen your god as proof. I think the problem stems from the majority of christians that can not accept that others have had similar experinces with differnt diety's. The simply say they are wrong, and they didnt expierence those. And i'm not saying anyone specificly, but that has been my expierence. My faith is strong enough that i rarely feel the need to talk about it, but i welcome all questions.

I would never do that.....you are totally and completely allowed to believe in what you wish. And I don't have a clue who your God is....But I do have a question. If This is what I am to believe according to my God's laws......then how would I of course not judging others deal with this?


Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments

1 And God spoke all these words:

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me.

4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

Scriptures were written to scare us off! To me the Bible is just a fictional book with many stories that may or may not have happened in the past by a bunch of people who were havin mental problems.

Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments

1 And God spoke all these words:

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me.

The alien connection:

Very interesting that Egypt was called "the land of slavery" considering the idea that Egypt was the place where many strange reptilian bird headed alien gods were said to have ruled.

Also stories of an advance alien race breeding humans for slaves fits right into that scene. Egypt = the land of slavery. Jews = the slaves.

Also the Jews were said to have been the descendants of Adam. Were humans being genetically tampered with for the creation of a slave race for these gods?

Then, some other alien god came along and decided to steal the slaves. (Or "free" them) But yet he demanded to be their Lord and God and demanded that now they should have no other gods before him.

Could the price of their freedom from one master have been the bondage to another master?