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If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god. Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening. So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us. I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved. I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum. i just want to say that i don't appreciate the title of your thread... my God Does believe in me and He cares a whole lot for me and about you too for that matter and you are not in any position to say otherwise It is to bad that you don't have any influence in what I have to post in a religious thread. I can post it to see how people react to it. It is a question that many ask and I would like to see what people believe or have to say. We have all kinds of people who visit this site. Some are religious and others are not. Many are not offended and appreciate the question. If you don't like the thread then perhaps you should stay out of it. I am in the position to ask or believe whatever I want and I care less what you think. you know...i don't need you or any of your little henchmen for approval woah...so you think you're " king of your own little universe " just cause you host a little silly adolescent online thread? 
how adolescent & trivial can one get ??? how flimsy can ones ego get ??? little boy, you exhibit no courtesy and such a lack of class or integrity ... amazing how much you cared so much about me, and you kept sending me patronizing mail
and invited me to join your lttle fantasy game , 
of which i declined and am so thankful i did 
but when i told you politely 
that i don't appreciate the title of your thread, you have to lash out with rudeness..??? 
the Christian bashers never end around here 
you want others to play the game but only according to your rules ...
my you are a legend in your own mind
and in the minds of a few other teeny boppers online
remove yourself from my friends list for you obviously are no friend of mine... 
end of conversation.... 
as i wipe the stench from this thread off my feet 
There is a smell on your feet?
Is that the same as when your nose runs and yor feet smell, you are upside down? But you are the same as the majority of Christians on here. You are happy to throw up the banner of Jesus loves, but then when anyone questions it, you throw the dummy out of the pram and get upset. How can you not expect people to question your beliefs when you wear them so loudly. Does it really shake your "strong faith" that much? It isnt that strong really then, is it? You rock!
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You rock!
 why, thank you.
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!! 
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. |
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!!
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. Again you avoid the question and no it is not poppycrock. These are valid questions. Sometimes people follow a group believing it is a good thing they are doing and find out later it wasn't! Some call it peer pressure and claim later they didn't know! The question is "what if" your god that you faithfully follow is proven as a fact is actually the god that wanted to end human life even if you were faithful to him and the god that did preserve life isn't getting the actual recognition he should. Stop avoiding the question! It is not hard to answer! If again you say why would I think my god is the wrong god and blah blah blah then you are avoiding the question yet again and I will just let it go for it isn't worth the back and forth discussion. |
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!!
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. I don't think he is asking why would you worship a God you don't believe in. I agree that would be a silly question indeed. I believe what he is asking is after you spend your life worshipping this God, what if when you die and go to heaven, The God that you have been worshipping all these years isn't like the God of the bible at all and the heaven you are in is not as you imagined it. At least that is how I interpreted the question. |
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!!
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. I don't think he is asking why would you worship a God you don't believe in. I agree that would be a silly question indeed. I believe what he is asking is after you spend your life worshipping this God, what if when you die and go to heaven, The God that you have been worshipping all these years isn't like the God of the bible at all and the heaven you are in is not as you imagined it. At least that is how I interpreted the question. I still say the same thing......not because I am trying to be a pain....but because I just don't by it....But ok say for the sake of argument.....that this is true......heck I can't.....nope It's like I ask people if God came to you and in your ear said, "I am the living God".....would you believe it then. For me I am who I am because of experiences...not because of just a blind faith........So for me this is not an option..... |
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!!
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. I don't think he is asking why would you worship a God you don't believe in. I agree that would be a silly question indeed. I believe what he is asking is after you spend your life worshipping this God, what if when you die and go to heaven, The God that you have been worshipping all these years isn't like the God of the bible at all and the heaven you are in is not as you imagined it. At least that is how I interpreted the question. I still say the same thing......not because I am trying to be a pain....but because I just don't by it....But ok say for the sake of argument.....that this is true......heck I can't.....nope It's like I ask people if God came to you and in your ear said, "I am the living God".....would you believe it then. For me I am who I am because of experiences...not because of just a blind faith........So for me this is not an option..... And I understand that, but see for me it would be the complete opposite. I could have someone walk up to me on the street and tell me that they are the living God and I would still ask for proof. To be fair though i think you would too. If a man who looks like he is homeless, or even for arguments sake a well dressed buisness man walked up to you one day and told you that they are the living God. What would you do? I am not trying to be argumentative here. I really am curious. After all Jesus came in human form claiming he was the son of God and people believed him. So say someone walked up to you and told you he was the living God and he wanted you to follow him and travel with him and spread his word. Would you drop everything right there and go with him or would you be skeptical? |
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If and if and if ...........is not going to solve an issue that might never happen .
Well ,it did not happen to me and I am sure it is not going to happen .  .
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!!
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. I don't think he is asking why would you worship a God you don't believe in. I agree that would be a silly question indeed. I believe what he is asking is after you spend your life worshipping this God, what if when you die and go to heaven, The God that you have been worshipping all these years isn't like the God of the bible at all and the heaven you are in is not as you imagined it. At least that is how I interpreted the question. I still say the same thing......not because I am trying to be a pain....but because I just don't by it....But ok say for the sake of argument.....that this is true......heck I can't.....nope It's like I ask people if God came to you and in your ear said, "I am the living God".....would you believe it then. For me I am who I am because of experiences...not because of just a blind faith........So for me this is not an option..... And I understand that, but see for me it would be the complete opposite. I could have someone walk up to me on the street and tell me that they are the living God and I would still ask for proof. To be fair though i think you would too. If a man who looks like he is homeless, or even for arguments sake a well dressed buisness man walked up to you one day and told you that they are the living God. What would you do? I am not trying to be argumentative here. I really am curious. After all Jesus came in human form claiming he was the son of God and people believed him. So say someone walked up to you and told you he was the living God and he wanted you to follow him and travel with him and spread his word. Would you drop everything right there and go with him or would you be skeptical? First off if the living God came to you and said I am who I am...trust me you would know it. He did and I listened....I have told my story countless times...but would do it again if it would help you to see where I am coming from 1st encounter with the living God...... About 16 years ago I went to my neigbors to borrow something. I asked them what it meant to be born again. In means basically to die to your sin and give your life to God. I talked to them for about 2 hours....I felt something within me.....I had no clue then.....I gave my life to God that day....I then went on a mission to read the Bible...For the next year I read it over and over and over. The more I did the more God spoke to my heart in a very quiet voice. I also learned anything and everything about all religions of the world. 2nd encounter with the living God. My mother was very very sick dying of cancer.....I was a baby Christian at the time...but nonetheless I believed strongly in the power of prayer. I did pray for the Lord to help me financially so that I could take care of my mother.....About 2 weeks later.....the house next door to me was up for sale by the bank...They were in the process of cleaning it up and said we could check it out, and take anything we wanted. So we did....It was a mess...and amongst the mess I found a black trash bag...inside was more then 10,000.00 of bills marked from 1954 to 1967. I thought first off how odd....as the house was foreclosed. I never saw anyone again from the bank and the house was sold. I tried to get ahold of the previous owners...but to no avail.....(prayer answered) 3rd encounter with the Living God. I was now able to take care of my mother and provide for my family. I came home to get more clothes and was in the middle of my driveway. I asked the Lord God...."If you are real, show me a sign." Just then thousands of lil lavendar butterflies were all around me.....and not a few but thousands I was touching them and then bam they were gone. Now I have seen these lil butterflies in a pale yellow but never in lavendar...mine and my mother's fav color. (prayer answered) 4th Encounter with the Living God. I then went back to my moms...and she was very very sick....I then went out into her backyard...She lived in the Mojave Desert and if you are familiar with it....Very very clear crystal days. This day there was not one cloud in the sky.....Again I asked, "Lord if you are real, show me a sign." Just as I spoke the last word a funnel cloud of pinks, blues greens came right to me.....(Prayer answered) 5th Encounter with the Living God. I went back in the house and was just in awe of what has been happening to me. When I went to kiss my mom and I sat down. She said, "No mom and dad I can't. Who is going to take care of Debbie and Bill (dad) I knew what was happening and told my mom to go.....go to your mom and dad.....15 minutes later she was gone..... I have many many more that I could tell you....but I think you get the jest.....You are also free to look up my prayer threads where time and time again miracles are happening right here on jsh. So when someone spews to me what you have....does it upset me....you bet it does. I am walking the path set forth by the Living God....The God that has shown me time and time again that He is very real. It is a narrow path that I walk....but one I walk gladly......For the Lord my God has reveiled himself over and over again to me. And even now if I stumble which I do.....or I sin which I do.....he speaks to my heart and set me on the right path again. The Lord has even hit me upside my head and asked what are you doing....The biggest difference between me and you or people that think like you do....Is they don't listen.....I do..... |
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Religion = Brainwash = wars and disagreements. Look at the example from this post alone. What ashame no one can answer the question I posted. Have a great day for those who can think beyond religious dogmatic belief systems. awww the caster of the first stone..... I did answer your question....because the answer doesn't fit your idea....oh well get over it. Who said it doesn't fit my idea?? Did I say that? For all I care you can believe what the Bible says. and second I am not upset at all with this post. You can throw all the stones you want and I wouldn't even care! What I have seen in here is alot of talk that doesn't go with the question intended. The question is if you believe the god that you worship isn't the god you thought it would be, what would you do about it. That is the only question. I am not asking for a lesson in christianity, I am looking for a actual answer. It is so simple, but thus far I get from christians that they are "true christians" and are not required to answer this. What a bunch of bull crap!!!
I did say what I thought that it was poppycock what you wrote.....First of all the God that I worship and praise is very real.....so for you to say what you did just made me
why the heck would anyone worship a God they didn't believe in........geezzzzzz So now I have answered it twice....and it might behoove you to take a few Bible Study classes. I don't think he is asking why would you worship a God you don't believe in. I agree that would be a silly question indeed. I believe what he is asking is after you spend your life worshipping this God, what if when you die and go to heaven, The God that you have been worshipping all these years isn't like the God of the bible at all and the heaven you are in is not as you imagined it. At least that is how I interpreted the question. I still say the same thing......not because I am trying to be a pain....but because I just don't by it....But ok say for the sake of argument.....that this is true......heck I can't.....nope It's like I ask people if God came to you and in your ear said, "I am the living God".....would you believe it then. For me I am who I am because of experiences...not because of just a blind faith........So for me this is not an option..... And I understand that, but see for me it would be the complete opposite. I could have someone walk up to me on the street and tell me that they are the living God and I would still ask for proof. To be fair though i think you would too. If a man who looks like he is homeless, or even for arguments sake a well dressed buisness man walked up to you one day and told you that they are the living God. What would you do? I am not trying to be argumentative here. I really am curious. After all Jesus came in human form claiming he was the son of God and people believed him. So say someone walked up to you and told you he was the living God and he wanted you to follow him and travel with him and spread his word. Would you drop everything right there and go with him or would you be skeptical? First off if the living God came to you and said I am who I am...trust me you would know it. He did and I listened....I have told my story countless times...but would do it again if it would help you to see where I am coming from 1st encounter with the living God...... About 16 years ago I went to my neigbors to borrow something. I asked them what it meant to be born again. In means basically to die to your sin and give your life to God. I talked to them for about 2 hours....I felt something within me.....I had no clue then.....I gave my life to God that day....I then went on a mission to read the Bible...For the next year I read it over and over and over. The more I did the more God spoke to my heart in a very quiet voice. I also learned anything and everything about all religions of the world. 2nd encounter with the living God. My mother was very very sick dying of cancer.....I was a baby Christian at the time...but nonetheless I believed strongly in the power of prayer. I did pray for the Lord to help me financially so that I could take care of my mother.....About 2 weeks later.....the house next door to me was up for sale by the bank...They were in the process of cleaning it up and said we could check it out, and take anything we wanted. So we did....It was a mess...and amongst the mess I found a black trash bag...inside was more then 10,000.00 of bills marked from 1954 to 1967. I thought first off how odd....as the house was foreclosed. I never saw anyone again from the bank and the house was sold. I tried to get ahold of the previous owners...but to no avail.....(prayer answered) 3rd encounter with the Living God. I was now able to take care of my mother and provide for my family. I came home to get more clothes and was in the middle of my driveway. I asked the Lord God...."If you are real, show me a sign." Just then thousands of lil lavendar butterflies were all around me.....and not a few but thousands I was touching them and then bam they were gone. Now I have seen these lil butterflies in a pale yellow but never in lavendar...mine and my mother's fav color. (prayer answered) 4th Encounter with the Living God. I then went back to my moms...and she was very very sick....I then went out into her backyard...She lived in the Mojave Desert and if you are familiar with it....Very very clear crystal days. This day there was not one cloud in the sky.....Again I asked, "Lord if you are real, show me a sign." Just as I spoke the last word a funnel cloud of pinks, blues greens came right to me.....(Prayer answered) 5th Encounter with the Living God. I went back in the house and was just in awe of what has been happening to me. When I went to kiss my mom and I sat down. She said, "No mom and dad I can't. Who is going to take care of Debbie and Bill (dad) I knew what was happening and told my mom to go.....go to your mom and dad.....15 minutes later she was gone..... I have many many more that I could tell you....but I think you get the jest.....You are also free to look up my prayer threads where time and time again miracles are happening right here on jsh. So when someone spews to me what you have....does it upset me....you bet it does. I am walking the path set forth by the Living God....The God that has shown me time and time again that He is very real. It is a narrow path that I walk....but one I walk gladly......For the Lord my God has reveiled himself over and over again to me. And even now if I stumble which I do.....or I sin which I do.....he speaks to my heart and set me on the right path again. The Lord has even hit me upside my head and asked what are you doing....The biggest difference between me and you or people that think like you do....Is they don't listen.....I do..... Actually in all the times I have been on this bored I have never heard any of those stories from you. So thank you for sharing them again. I am not sure if you only share them a majority of the time in your prayer threads or the Coffee House Chat for Christians. If you do then that is why I never saw them as I stay out of those threads out of respect to you and your beliefs. My question was not posed with the intention of upsetting you and I am sorry for the hardships you have had to face and am glad you found something to help get you through them. However with all do respect I don't believe in miracles. I believe in Karma, I believe in just having good and bad luck. but I don't believe that God is playing favorites with who he helps. I have known very good and devout christian people that have gone through just as many hard times as what you have described here. They prayed and prayed for help. In fact they still are and things just keep getting worse for them. So I can't believe that just because you believe in a higher power and pray for help that it comes to you. Why is it that God decides to send you all the help you ask for but ignores the pleas of the people that are just as devout and going through just as many hard times? Also, I am not saying this as a personal attack against you or anything like that and I am not trying to be rude. Merely trying to understand. I know it is not your fault that this living God decided to help you but for some reason won't help others. Although I just don't understand why. I have even tried asking him myself and I am still listening for my answer. So yes, my ears are open and all he has to do is explain to me why. However I only continue to hear silence so I guess I am just another one that he has decided is not going to be heard. There is only so many times that you can go through hardship and pray only to be left in the dust before you just stop believing that miracles really do happen. Perhaps you are just luckier than the rest of us are or perhaps you are just such a good person that Karma smiled upon you to help you in your time of need. Although I just can't believe that everything that happened was handed to you by God. |
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I have told my experiences in many many threads....not just the coffeehouse. And anyone is welcome there.....I don't discriminate who or who doesn't come to my threads ever. And you very welcome for the share. I know you don't intentionally say anything to upset. And I for sure feel strongly that you and anyone else are entitled to believe as you wish. What I will not tolerate is someone saying my God, His Son Jesus Christ and the Bible are myths......then the pitbull for Christ will be on ya every time. I again say to you....don't it's your choice....but it can't be denied that they are happening all around us....I have no problem with Karma...because I believe that basically every human being with whatever they do in life...It will either come back to you ten fold or it will bite you in the butt (karma) But also understand that God answers prayers on his time. And when people think I pray and pray and he doesn't answer....This is a total wrong frame of mind. I would ask them. Why is it when life is peaches and cream do you thank God? And why is it that when things are bad in peoples lives they want to blame God. I know again through my own experiences that everything is done in God's time and for his purpose. But I also know that my faith is sooooooo strong and unwavering and this is what connects human being to the Living God. I think the main difference is that I pray knowing that God when it is right will answer prayer. When my friend Kitt madamx (jsh) was diagnosed for the second time with Cancer....I put a prayer chain. Within 9 days of being diagnosed she went back to doctors who showed her the pictures and had circled where all the cancer was.....gone gone gone. Now I know that the Lord my God answered this prayer....Why? Because even though I had been talking to kitt for awhile she had doubts...and after this she was on fire for the Lord. Does that mean that others things don't happen...of course not.....the cancer returned to her intestines and she has mutliple other things going on. But she knows now and is a testimony to God for what he has done in her life...And to me for God this is what it is all about. If one person can give testimony to things in their life and it brings that person to have a personal relationship with Christ.....then all worth it.. So you might have to have ask your Christian friends where their hearts are when they are praying and asking for God's intervention. If it seems like it's getting worse....then know that God is using them for some other purpose. We have this wonderful wonderful Christian man at church who has battled cancer 17 times over the same amount of years.....He has given testimony after testmony of God Grace and healing....But this does not stop it from happening? Why do you think that is? Because God has a greater purpose for him. And has he in all those years ever gotten mad at God....not once....His faith is that strong. It's not that God won't help all, if the prayer is coming from the right place....It just means it's not time yet. I don't at all think I am any more special then any other human being......and like I said.....How many people fluff off when the Lord is trying to speak to them. Don't fluff it off......Stop and really listen...Now another thing that makes it really hard for people is to use the Bible as it was intended. I can't tell you how many times when I am ministering to people and I say Lord please give me the words and the wisdom and the scripture I need. I will open the Bible and there it is. Although my teachers don't like it so much...It works for me. Also understand that the Lord my God is with me every waking moment of every day. If I am not ministering or praying....I am anointing him and thanking for all that he does in my life....And all the Glory to God always. And this is exactly what I mean. Your ears and eyes in your opinion are open to hearing the word of God...But sweetie your heart is closed and you will never hear from God if you don't believe in Him with every fiber of your being. You can ask from now until doomsday....He will never answer.... Matthew 13: 10-23 10The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?" 11He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: " 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. 15For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'[a] 16But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it. 18"Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away. 22The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful. 23But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown." It is not a matter of luck......It is all about Faith and the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ...It is said before Christ comes back every man woman and child will know his word. But also God gave you freewill to choose....You can either choose to follow Christ or not. There is no luck involved. Now also understand one more thing. About 15 years ago I was at church a baby Christian and a Prophet by the name of Lola came to our church. She was giving a word of God to all the elder women of the church. I was sitting there thinking this is such crap. Then she came to me....She looked and looked away and then with a tear in her eye....she said the Lord has big plans for you...But you must forgive your brother. She ad my full attention as no one knew and I mean no one....So I knew right then and there that God was speaking through Lola. She went on to say your going to be like a paper boy on the street of New York City, "Come come hear about the Lord." Now I could of ignored but Lola also said you are going to be receiving many gifts of the Lord. Tongues, and prophecy. I listened, took notes and that was that....10 years later I was given those gifts. And I don't take them lightly at all. I know am a humble servant of God and no matter what anyone says...they would never in a million billion years convince me God is not real. And of course sweet man.....You can believe anything you wish.....If yo believe that God doesn't have his seed firmly planted within me....your choice....but I say unto you......I do know......and God humbles me, loves me, and has made my life a wonderful thing, in which all the gifts he bestowes on me are given back to others in my life 10 fold.....Do you think that us meeting right now right at this moment was a fluke? nope......God does things always with purpose and puts people in others path with great great purpose. God Bless |
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I have told my experiences in many many threads....not just the coffeehouse. And anyone is welcome there.....I don't discriminate who or who doesn't come to my threads ever. And you very welcome for the share. I know you don't intentionally say anything to upset. And I for sure feel strongly that you and anyone else are entitled to believe as you wish. What I will not tolerate is someone saying my God, His Son Jesus Christ and the Bible are myths......then the pitbull for Christ will be on ya every time. I again say to you....don't it's your choice....but it can't be denied that they are happening all around us....I have no problem with Karma...because I believe that basically every human being with whatever they do in life...It will either come back to you ten fold or it will bite you in the butt (karma) But also understand that God answers prayers on his time. And when people think I pray and pray and he doesn't answer....This is a total wrong frame of mind. I would ask them. Why is it when life is peaches and cream do you thank God? And why is it that when things are bad in peoples lives they want to blame God. I know again through my own experiences that everything is done in God's time and for his purpose. But I also know that my faith is sooooooo strong and unwavering and this is what connects human being to the Living God. I think the main difference is that I pray knowing that God when it is right will answer prayer. When my friend Kitt madamx (jsh) was diagnosed for the second time with Cancer....I put a prayer chain. Within 9 days of being diagnosed she went back to doctors who showed her the pictures and had circled where all the cancer was.....gone gone gone. Now I know that the Lord my God answered this prayer....Why? Because even though I had been talking to kitt for awhile she had doubts...and after this she was on fire for the Lord. Does that mean that others things don't happen...of course not.....the cancer returned to her intestines and she has mutliple other things going on. But she knows now and is a testimony to God for what he has done in her life...And to me for God this is what it is all about. If one person can give testimony to things in their life and it brings that person to have a personal relationship with Christ.....then all worth it.. So you might have to have ask your Christian friends where their hearts are when they are praying and asking for God's intervention. If it seems like it's getting worse....then know that God is using them for some other purpose. We have this wonderful wonderful Christian man at church who has battled cancer 17 times over the same amount of years.....He has given testimony after testmony of God Grace and healing....But this does not stop it from happening? Why do you think that is? Because God has a greater purpose for him. And has he in all those years ever gotten mad at God....not once....His faith is that strong. It's not that God won't help all, if the prayer is coming from the right place....It just means it's not time yet. I don't at all think I am any more special then any other human being......and like I said.....How many people fluff off when the Lord is trying to speak to them. Don't fluff it off......Stop and really listen...Now another thing that makes it really hard for people is to use the Bible as it was intended. I can't tell you how many times when I am ministering to people and I say Lord please give me the words and the wisdom and the scripture I need. I will open the Bible and there it is. Although my teachers don't like it so much...It works for me. Also understand that the Lord my God is with me every waking moment of every day. If I am not ministering or praying....I am anointing him and thanking for all that he does in my life....And all the Glory to God always. And this is exactly what I mean. Your ears and eyes in your opinion are open to hearing the word of God...But sweetie your heart is closed and you will never hear from God if you don't believe in Him with every fiber of your being. You can ask from now until doomsday....He will never answer.... Matthew 13: 10-23 10The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?" 11He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: " 'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. 15For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'[a] 16But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it. 18"Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away. 22The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful. 23But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown." It is not a matter of luck......It is all about Faith and the Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ...It is said before Christ comes back every man woman and child will know his word. But also God gave you freewill to choose....You can either choose to follow Christ or not. There is no luck involved. Now also understand one more thing. About 15 years ago I was at church a baby Christian and a Prophet by the name of Lola came to our church. She was giving a word of God to all the elder women of the church. I was sitting there thinking this is such crap. Then she came to me....She looked and looked away and then with a tear in her eye....she said the Lord has big plans for you...But you must forgive your brother. She ad my full attention as no one knew and I mean no one....So I knew right then and there that God was speaking through Lola. She went on to say your going to be like a paper boy on the street of New York City, "Come come hear about the Lord." Now I could of ignored but Lola also said you are going to be receiving many gifts of the Lord. Tongues, and prophecy. I listened, took notes and that was that....10 years later I was given those gifts. And I don't take them lightly at all. I know am a humble servant of God and no matter what anyone says...they would never in a million billion years convince me God is not real. And of course sweet man.....You can believe anything you wish.....If yo believe that God doesn't have his seed firmly planted within me....your choice....but I say unto you......I do know......and God humbles me, loves me, and has made my life a wonderful thing, in which all the gifts he bestowes on me are given back to others in my life 10 fold.....Do you think that us meeting right now right at this moment was a fluke? nope......God does things always with purpose and puts people in others path with great great purpose. God Bless You seem to be very versed in the bible. This is not a personal attack, but you said a prophet came to you in church. The bible clearly states that after Jesus there are only false prophets. I do not know the bible verse offhand at the moment. But will post it later when my mother gets home from work. Just letting you know, that it is in there. |
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I was just reading this thread. I don't think anyone disagree's that you have seen your god as proof. I think the problem stems from the majority of christians that can not accept that others have had similar experinces with differnt diety's. The simply say they are wrong, and they didnt expierence those. And i'm not saying anyone specificly, but that has been my expierence. My faith is strong enough that i rarely feel the need to talk about it, but i welcome all questions.
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I was just reading this thread. I don't think anyone disagree's that you have seen your god as proof. I think the problem stems from the majority of christians that can not accept that others have had similar experinces with differnt diety's. The simply say they are wrong, and they didnt expierence those. And i'm not saying anyone specificly, but that has been my expierence. My faith is strong enough that i rarely feel the need to talk about it, but i welcome all questions. I would never do that.....you are totally and completely allowed to believe in what you wish. And I don't have a clue who your God is....But I do have a question. If This is what I am to believe according to my God's laws......then how would I of course not judging others deal with this? Exodus 20 The Ten Commandments 1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. |
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I was just reading this thread. I don't think anyone disagree's that you have seen your god as proof. I think the problem stems from the majority of christians that can not accept that others have had similar experinces with differnt diety's. The simply say they are wrong, and they didnt expierence those. And i'm not saying anyone specificly, but that has been my expierence. My faith is strong enough that i rarely feel the need to talk about it, but i welcome all questions. I would never do that.....you are totally and completely allowed to believe in what you wish. And I don't have a clue who your God is....But I do have a question. If This is what I am to believe according to my God's laws......then how would I of course not judging others deal with this? Exodus 20 The Ten Commandments 1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. I don't understand why you are quoting scriptures about false gods and idolatry. What are you using these in reference to. No one here at any point claimed to worship a false idol?? |
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Scriptures were written to scare us off! To me the Bible is just a fictional book with many stories that may or may not have happened in the past by a bunch of people who were havin mental problems.
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Scriptures were written to scare us off! To me the Bible is just a fictional book with many stories that may or may not have happened in the past by a bunch of people who were havin mental problems. So we need more psychiatrists than we need weird preachers . 
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I agree my friend! Preachers may preach, may listen to our sins! but do we hear about there sins or wat they have done bad?
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Jeanniebean
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Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments 1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me. The alien connection: Very interesting that Egypt was called "the land of slavery" considering the idea that Egypt was the place where many strange reptilian bird headed alien gods were said to have ruled. Also stories of an advance alien race breeding humans for slaves fits right into that scene. Egypt = the land of slavery. Jews = the slaves. Also the Jews were said to have been the descendants of Adam. Were humans being genetically tampered with for the creation of a slave race for these gods? Then, some other alien god came along and decided to steal the slaves. (Or "free" them) But yet he demanded to be their Lord and God and demanded that now they should have no other gods before him. A power struggle between aliens. Could the price of their freedom from one master have been the bondage to another master? |
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Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments 1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me. The alien connection: Very interesting that Egypt was called "the land of slavery" considering the idea that Egypt was the place where many strange reptilian bird headed alien gods were said to have ruled. Also stories of an advance alien race breeding humans for slaves fits right into that scene. Egypt = the land of slavery. Jews = the slaves. Also the Jews were said to have been the descendants of Adam. Were humans being genetically tampered with for the creation of a slave race for these gods? Then, some other alien god came along and decided to steal the slaves. (Or "free" them) But yet he demanded to be their Lord and God and demanded that now they should have no other gods before him. Could the price of their freedom from one master have been the bondage to another master? Wow...now that, my friend is an answer waaaay outside the box! I like!
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