Topic: Your God doesn't believe in you!
Quikstepper's photo
Wed 06/25/08 07:56 AM

I feel that we were merely trying to think outside the box and that there is nothing wrong with that. If God exists he did not create us to be puppets and blindly follow any path. I have studied the bible most of my life and have come to find that many of its teachings are those that I do not agree with. Therefore I choose my own path. Maybe those of you are condemning us for not blindly following should take a look at the love that Jesus preaches in his word? He certainly did not use words of hate and condemnation in his teachings to get those to follow. I do not condemn any one in any faith for their beliefs. But, I do like to get people to think outside the box. It is in my nature to do so and I feel that it is beneficial to make others do so as well!


...but you're comments about blindly following means you aren't getting the faith based life...BTW...a faith walk IS thinking outside the box. Walking by faith is not blindly either...that's why we read & study God's word so we know what His word says & if we are correctly applying it.

...As far as not agreeing with "it", ask God to help you come into agreement with HIM instead about what He is saying in His word. Like the person who said..help me with my unbelief. You might be very surprized that God will answer you.

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Wed 06/25/08 09:59 AM




What if the very God you are worshipping, whatever the religious belief you believe in, is actually the very God that wanted the destruction of the human race.

Now I know some of you will say impossible, yet think about it for a moment. The very God you believe in and dedicated your whole life and faith into is the very God that actually wanted the destruction of the human race!

And

the very God that actually preserved your life and allowed it to flourish on this planet is the very God everyone is not paying attention to like suppose to be.

If this were to be true as a fact how would you redeem your thoughts and ways? How would you correct what you didn't certainly know but believed it to be true?

This question is for those who believe in a God or greater being, which is about 5 billion people on this planet. Correct?







what human believe what they do without EACH having a UNIQUE, one in 6 1/2 billion rare experience......

what EACH believe then is UNIQUE also, if each mind has been programmed as a ONE-OF-A-KIND, and why the truth MUST be ONE TRUTH that show HOW and WHY each believe what they do, and what truth it originated from.....

anything that is shown by EVIDENCE of feeling, hearing or seeing, the MIND will believe it, as what man has made himself to CHOOSE WHAT HE BELIEVE, as the reaction of all others has been input into it, which is what EACH has drawn "HALF" of all logic formed from.......

these things cannot be disputed by the UNIQUE mind of EACH that has seen all it has seen, so EACH has divinitiy in the heart.....not to say tomarrow is not going to unfold NEW things heard and seen, lol......

the mortal expereince is by nature one that "TRICK" a being into believing today what it did not yesterday, but if one see another as the one NOW tricked, then this be proof one has fallen prey to the oldest trick in the universe themself........NOTHING IS REAL UNTIL A POINT OF REFERENCE OR COMPARISON IS CREATED, SO WHAT IS NEXT FOR EACH THAT HOLD TRUE TO A BELIEF AND SEE NOT THAT THE TRUTH CHANGE EACH SECOND......ALL THINGS HEARD AND SPOKEN CONTAIN TRUTH, THEN WE HAVE FOUND ALL WISDOM, AND THE TRUTH CAN BE MADE KNOWN AT ALL TIMES, AND NO TRICKERY CAN DECIEVE AGAIN, LOL.......



My, how the heathen do rage and imagine vain things!!!!


And my how quickly christian's judge others for using their brains and thinking for themselves.


Not judging, just observing.
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Wed 06/25/08 09:59 AM

Well, it seems to me that you are asking one of those types of questions like "If elephants could fly - what kind of helmet would you wear to ..."



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Well - you get the point.

So. I'll play along.

What would I do if I came to find out that God was really Satan, and vice versa.

Why, I'd say what everybody would:

"Gee, I didn't know. But that's okay - cause I WAS JUST KIDDING!"

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Wed 06/25/08 10:01 AM





What if the very God you are worshipping, whatever the religious belief you believe in, is actually the very God that wanted the destruction of the human race.

Now I know some of you will say impossible, yet think about it for a moment. The very God you believe in and dedicated your whole life and faith into is the very God that actually wanted the destruction of the human race!

And

the very God that actually preserved your life and allowed it to flourish on this planet is the very God everyone is not paying attention to like suppose to be.

If this were to be true as a fact how would you redeem your thoughts and ways? How would you correct what you didn't certainly know but believed it to be true?

This question is for those who believe in a God or greater being, which is about 5 billion people on this planet. Correct?







what human believe what they do without EACH having a UNIQUE, one in 6 1/2 billion rare experience......

what EACH believe then is UNIQUE also, if each mind has been programmed as a ONE-OF-A-KIND, and why the truth MUST be ONE TRUTH that show HOW and WHY each believe what they do, and what truth it originated from.....

anything that is shown by EVIDENCE of feeling, hearing or seeing, the MIND will believe it, as what man has made himself to CHOOSE WHAT HE BELIEVE, as the reaction of all others has been input into it, which is what EACH has drawn "HALF" of all logic formed from.......

these things cannot be disputed by the UNIQUE mind of EACH that has seen all it has seen, so EACH has divinitiy in the heart.....not to say tomarrow is not going to unfold NEW things heard and seen, lol......

the mortal expereince is by nature one that "TRICK" a being into believing today what it did not yesterday, but if one see another as the one NOW tricked, then this be proof one has fallen prey to the oldest trick in the universe themself........NOTHING IS REAL UNTIL A POINT OF REFERENCE OR COMPARISON IS CREATED, SO WHAT IS NEXT FOR EACH THAT HOLD TRUE TO A BELIEF AND SEE NOT THAT THE TRUTH CHANGE EACH SECOND......ALL THINGS HEARD AND SPOKEN CONTAIN TRUTH, THEN WE HAVE FOUND ALL WISDOM, AND THE TRUTH CAN BE MADE KNOWN AT ALL TIMES, AND NO TRICKERY CAN DECIEVE AGAIN, LOL.......



My, how the heathen do rage and imagine vain things!!!!


And my how quickly christian's judge others for using their brains and thinking for themselves.


Not judging, just observing.
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Rapunzel's photo
Wed 06/25/08 10:03 AM


I feel that we were merely trying to think outside the box and that there is nothing wrong with that. If God exists he did not create us to be puppets and blindly follow any path. I have studied the bible most of my life and have come to find that many of its teachings are those that I do not agree with. Therefore I choose my own path. Maybe those of you are condemning us for not blindly following should take a look at the love that Jesus preaches in his word? He certainly did not use words of hate and condemnation in his teachings to get those to follow. I do not condemn any one in any faith for their beliefs. But, I do like to get people to think outside the box. It is in my nature to do so and I feel that it is beneficial to make others do so as well!


...but you're comments about blindly following means you aren't getting the faith based life...BTW...a faith walk IS thinking outside the box. Walking by faith is not blindly either...that's why we read & study God's word so we know what His word says & if we are correctly applying it.

...As far as not agreeing with "it", ask God to help you come into agreement with HIM instead about what He is saying in His word. Like the person who said..help me with my unbelief. You might be very surprized that God will answer you.




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Thu 06/26/08 08:27 AM
If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.

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Thu 06/26/08 02:15 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 06/26/08 02:17 PM

If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.




i just want to say

that i don't appreciate

the title of your thread...


my God Does believe in me

and He cares a whole lot for me

and about you too for that matter


and you are not

in any position to say otherwise










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Thu 06/26/08 02:37 PM


If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.




i just want to say

that i don't appreciate

the title of your thread...


my God Does believe in me

and He cares a whole lot for me

and about you too for that matter


and you are not

in any position to say otherwise












It is to bad that you don't have any influence in what I have to post in a religious thread. I can post it to see how people react to it. It is a question that many ask and I would like to see what people believe or have to say. We have all kinds of people who visit this site. Some are religious and others are not. Many are not offended and appreciate the question.

If you don't like the thread then perhaps you should stay out of it.

I am in the position to ask or believe whatever I want and I care less what you think.


buffry's photo
Thu 06/26/08 02:46 PM


If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.




i just want to say

that i don't appreciate

the title of your thread...


my God Does believe in me

and He cares a whole lot for me

and about you too for that matter


and you are not

in any position to say otherwise












As far as I know, we live in a free country and can say whatever we please, regardless if it upsets you. Who are you to say who is in the position to speak? This kind of attitude in general is what makes me as a person dislike your faith. You think that you know everything because you put faith in God and think that you can condemn others for their beliefs or lack of and that is wrong. You are no better than anyone else and believe it or not. Your holier than thou attitude sucks. Judge not, yest ye be judged yourself. REMEMBER THAT ONE???

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Thu 06/26/08 04:21 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 06/26/08 04:21 PM



If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.




i just want to say

that i don't appreciate

the title of your thread...


my God Does believe in me

and He cares a whole lot for me

and about you too for that matter


and you are not

in any position to say otherwise












It is to bad that you don't have any influence in what I have to post in a religious thread. I can post it to see how people react to it. It is a question that many ask and I would like to see what people believe or have to say. We have all kinds of people who visit this site. Some are religious and others are not. Many are not offended and appreciate the question.

If you don't like the thread then perhaps you should stay out of it.

I am in the position to ask or believe whatever I want and I care less what you think.





you know...i don't need you or any

of your little henchmen for approval


woah...so you think you're

" king of your own little universe "


just cause you host

a little silly adolescent online thread? ill



how adolescent & trivial can one get ???

how flimsy can ones ego get ???






little boy, you exhibit no courtesy

and such a lack of class or integrity ...



amazing how much you cared so much about me,

and you kept sending me patronizing mail ill

and invited me to join your lttle fantasy game ,huh




of which i declined and am so thankful i did biggrin

but when i told you politely flowerforyou

that i don't appreciate the title of your thread,

you have to lash out with rudeness..??? devil



the Christian bashers never end around here pitchfork


you want others to play the game


but only according to your rules ...ill



my you are a legend in your own mind ill

and in the minds of a few other

teeny boppers online ill


remove yourself from my friends list

for you obviously are no friend of mine...noway


end of conversation....drinker



as i wipe the stench from this thread


off my feet sick












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Thu 06/26/08 04:25 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/26/08 04:49 PM
MORNINGSONG WROTE:


Then that question can ony apply to those involved in religion, and not relationship with God.

Cause true Christianity is about RELATONSHIP ,and not Religion at all.

So therefore the question does not apply to true christians.

It would be the same as someone asking you, " what if you found out you were never born ?"
Why...you KNOW you were born.. you are ALIVE.

Same with a Christian..they KNOW they are BORN AGAIN..so the question does not apply..cause there are NO doubts about God being REAL to a christian.....and also ,there is no doubt about a christian's RELATONSHIP with God...at all.



WRONG WRONG WRONG.frustrated

If that were the case, and its not, then you would have to call me "Christian" because I have just as much a relationship with god as you do. Maybe more. bigsmile

But that would not be correct, I cannot be Christian, because I do not accept the trappings of the RELIGION, (as you MUST) or the Bible (As you Must) or the story of Jesus Christ being sacrificed for my sins. (As you MUST) -- or you are NOT Christian either.

(As far as being "born again" that has happened to me many times as I have been "born again" in body and in spirit many times.~~ and you are in no position to tell me I have not.)

Morningsong you cannot separate yourself from the religion and still call yourself CHRISTIAN. You just cannot.

You cannot claim that it is just about your relationship to God ~~ as if YOU and YOU ALONE OWN GOD.

Why on earth do you believe you are so special? I realize it makes you feel good, but really, it just looks like you are delusional or on drugs or under some powerful hypnotic influence .... you call it spirit, and I think it is just emotional and mental hypnotic influence.

And all this crap about TRUE CHRISTIANS and FALSE CHRISTIANS is a bunch of bull.

A CHRISTIAN IS A CHRISTIAN IS A CHRISTIAN. If they say they are, then I believe them. And yet you would divide them into "true" and "false" Christians. ohwell

Do you do it so that you can separate yourself further from your own Christian brothers and sisters and feel superior to them, the people who do not, in your opinion, measure up to your standards of what a TRUE (Born again) CHRISTIAN should be? Is it because they don't attend your kind of "spirit filled" church?

Morningsong you need to take your head up out of that dense cloud of la la land and come down to earth. You are addicted to that feeling of superiority that you think is yourself being "born again" and a true Christian, and everyone else just "doesn't get it."

ohwell

It just seems to me that you are way out of touch with most people. ~~ Even other Christians who in your opinion are not "true Christians."

JB





Rapunzel's photo
Thu 06/26/08 04:25 PM



If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.




i just want to say

that i don't appreciate

the title of your thread...


my God Does believe in me

and He cares a whole lot for me

and about you too for that matter


and you are not

in any position to say otherwise












As far as I know, we live in a free country and can say whatever we please, regardless if it upsets you. Who are you to say who is in the position to speak? This kind of attitude in general is what makes me as a person dislike your faith. You think that you know everything because you put faith in God and think that you can condemn others for their beliefs or lack of and that is wrong. You are no better than anyone else and believe it or not. Your holier than thou attitude sucks. Judge not, yest ye be judged yourself. REMEMBER THAT ONE???









oh ...save it...who the hell are you ???sick


your message isn't even worth readingnoway


you don't even know what you are talking about sick



go stalk some one else devil

with your nasty attitude sick

and your false accusations...pitchfork


i am so glad i am not you ill ill ill

buffry's photo
Thu 06/26/08 04:28 PM




If you study Sumerian Mythology you will see that it leads down that many are worshipping the wrong god.

Supposingly the god that created us for slave purpose didn't need us anymore and wanted to eliminate the human race and the god (half brother) prevented this from happening.

So most are worshipping the very god that cares less about us.

I know, I know many will say this is absurd and embrace (my religion) and you will be saved.

I am just quoting what was read in Sumerian Mythology and led me to ask this question you read when opening this forum.




i just want to say

that i don't appreciate

the title of your thread...


my God Does believe in me

and He cares a whole lot for me

and about you too for that matter


and you are not

in any position to say otherwise












It is to bad that you don't have any influence in what I have to post in a religious thread. I can post it to see how people react to it. It is a question that many ask and I would like to see what people believe or have to say. We have all kinds of people who visit this site. Some are religious and others are not. Many are not offended and appreciate the question.

If you don't like the thread then perhaps you should stay out of it.

I am in the position to ask or believe whatever I want and I care less what you think.





you know...i don't need you or any

of your little henchmen for approval


woah...so you think you're

" king of your own little universe "


just cause you host

a little silly adolescent online thread? ill



how adolescent & trivial can one get ???

how flimsy can ones ego get ???






little boy, you exhibit no courtesy

and such a lack of class or integrity ...



amazing how much you cared so much about me,

and you kept sending me patronizing mail ill

and invited me to join your lttle fantasy game ,huh




of which i declined and am so thankful i did biggrin

but when i told you politely flowerforyou

that i don't appreciate the title of your thread,

you have to lash out with rudeness..??? devil



the Christian bashers never end around here pitchfork


you want others to play the game


but only according to your rules ...ill



my you are a legend in your own mind ill

and in the minds of a few other

teeny boppers online ill


remove yourself from my friends list

for you obviously are no friend of mine...noway


end of conversation....drinker



as i wipe the stench from this thread


off my feet sick














As far as I can tell, you are the one that is bashing! Wow, what a christian attitude, lol. You make a mockery of the historical figure Christ, and in no way mimick his behavior. You and your so called sisters and brothers, should be ashamed that you represent their faith. People like you are the reason why atheists exist.

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Thu 06/26/08 04:43 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/26/08 04:46 PM
Once more TRUE Christianity is about RELATIONSHIP.
Relationship back with the Father .

And that RELATIONSHIP can ONLY come ,by accepting Jesus... and when man does, he becomes BORN AGAIN ...and is NEVER the same afterwards!!!
EVER AGAIN!!

And a christian can't become UNBORN, once he is BORN AGAIN!!

Once more, this question you asked, does not apply to true christians....but it may apply to those caught up in religiousity , only.



This is so much rhetoric I can't believe you believe this stuff.

What you describe above IS RELIGION Morningsong. It is the religion of Christianity. And yet you are claiming that it is not.

You are claiming that most Christians are not true Christians that they are just into religiousity, or churchiology, or some other made up word.

That is denial in the truest form. A Christian is a Christian is a Christian. Stop trying to make yourself better than the rest of the Christians. If I was one of them I would be insulted big time with all that ~"I'm holier than the rest of the Christians stuff."



JB

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Thu 06/26/08 04:55 PM

ANSWER: I would have to say.......poppycock....He is the Creator not the destroyer.......

I know what I know........and this is again poppycock



But hey if you want to believe it....you have fun with that.

buffry's photo
Thu 06/26/08 04:59 PM


ANSWER: I would have to say.......poppycock....He is the Creator not the destroyer.......

I know what I know........and this is again poppycock



But hey if you want to believe it....you have fun with that.


If he is the creator and not the destroyer why don't you try reading the book of Revelations? It's in your bible, ya know. He will destroy the earth as well someday, if the bible is truth, that is.

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Thu 06/26/08 05:04 PM



ANSWER: I would have to say.......poppycock....He is the Creator not the destroyer.......

I know what I know........and this is again poppycock



But hey if you want to believe it....you have fun with that.


If he is the creator and not the destroyer why don't you try reading the book of Revelations? It's in your bible, ya know. He will destroy the earth as well someday, if the bible is truth, that is.



again another perfect example of someone thinking they know scripture....When God made the Flood.....He said that never again would he destroy the World......So again I say to you......who destroys the world?

buffry's photo
Thu 06/26/08 05:07 PM




ANSWER: I would have to say.......poppycock....He is the Creator not the destroyer.......

I know what I know........and this is again poppycock



But hey if you want to believe it....you have fun with that.


If he is the creator and not the destroyer why don't you try reading the book of Revelations? It's in your bible, ya know. He will destroy the earth as well someday, if the bible is truth, that is.



again another perfect example of someone thinking they know scripture....When God made the Flood.....He said that never again would he destroy the World......So again I say to you......who destroys the world?



Read it...there will be a new heaven and new earth, dumbass!

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Thu 06/26/08 05:17 PM
Do any of u actually have read the bible from the 1st page till the last page? We all no its gonna be the end in 2012!

buffry's photo
Thu 06/26/08 05:19 PM

Do any of u actually have read the bible from the 1st page till the last page? We all no its gonna be the end in 2012!


Haven't read it cover to cover, but went to bible school, bible camp, sunday school, and bible study every damn week of my childhood, lol. Was pounded in my brain from birth. I do know, however that the bible does not state when Armageddon begins.