It applies to you also even if you have faith, relationship, or anything else to christianity.

You are no different then the next person across from you who doesn't believe.

this question does work for you rather you want to believe it or not.

I have a great relationship in the supernatural and still can answer these questions.

You don't need a book to tell you to have a conscience to believe in yourself or to go further to better places when you die or not.

In the long run you are just saying you are too good to answer the question

Read the question again and try to answer it if it was proven that your religion, faith, and relationship to Jesus is wrong!

That is the question.

Hmmm...well, I was once "Born Again" and now an Atheist, so what does that tell you about your theory???

Nice try Morning Song but you can describe the differences until you re blue in the face and it simply boils down to the fact that some people do not get it. Nothing against them, they simply have not seen and felt what we have and understandably they doubt it....... just as I did.

For we all fall short of the glory of god, but according to his mercy he saved us! Maybe some people comprehend more than you know and it is you that needs some education???? I am very well versed in the bible and being a born again christian, thank you very much!

my, you sure seem so defensive...





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Buffry... there is NO SUCH THING as a ONCE born again christian, suddenly becoming UNBORN.
Sorry.. IMPOSSIBLE.

It would be like someone saying to you, that you were never born in the flesh.
That would be silly, cause you KNOW you were born, cause hey.....you are alive, right?

Same with a christian becoming born again.. a christian KNOWS he is BORN AGAIN......cause he is NOW ALIVE IN CHRIST...cause something SUPERNATURAL happened in his spirit....his spirit has NOW become BRAND NEW!!!

Ans once more, that is HOW a christian KNOWS, without a shadow of doubt, that he is TRULY born again!!

And the EVIDENCE of CHANGE, will always follow, soon afterwards...if not right away, in a born again chrsitian's life. In other words, there will be fruits showing.

And NOTHING will EVER EVER EVER take that away from that BORN AGAIN experience.... cause it COMES FROM GOD!!!!!

So Buffry.........sorry.. you were NEVER TRULY BORN AGAIN.
feel You just said a bunch of words that NEVER took effect, cause you were saying it out of your head ,and not your heart.
Sorry.Cause IF you were truly born again, you could NOT become unborn in the spirit.

THAT is what truly becoming born again means... it means your spirit has been MADE ALIVE BY GOD, thru your ACCEPTING JESUS as Lord and Saviour.

You say you are an athesit today?

That would be the same as a person being born, saying they were never born.
The truth is, yuo were NEVER born again.

But it is never too late, Buffry, to accept Christ Jesus, and this time around, mean it.

You question is as silly as if you were asking me," MorningSong, what if you were NEVER really born in the flesh on this earth,...and your living on this earth were just an illusion"....

And I would have to answer ," Smiles, I KNOW I am born on this earth, cause I LIVE!!!"

And You would answer back and say, "But what if the fact that you live, is jst an illusion... what would you do".

And I would say, "But Smiless, I know that I LIVE ,and I KNOW my life on this earth is NOT an ILLUSION....so thererfore, yuor questin does not apply".


Same with being Born again. We KNOW we LIVE..in CHRIST.

what human believe what they do without EACH having a UNIQUE, one in 6 1/2 billion rare experience......

what EACH believe then is UNIQUE also, if each mind has been programmed as a ONE-OF-A-KIND, and why the truth MUST be ONE TRUTH that show HOW and WHY each believe what they do, and what truth it originated from.....

anything that is shown by EVIDENCE of feeling, hearing or seeing, the MIND will believe it, as what man has made himself to CHOOSE WHAT HE BELIEVE, as the reaction of all others has been input into it, which is what EACH has drawn "HALF" of all logic formed from.......

these things cannot be disputed by the UNIQUE mind of EACH that has seen all it has seen, so EACH has divinitiy in the heart.....not to say tomarrow is not going to unfold NEW things heard and seen, lol......

the mortal expereince is by nature one that "TRICK" a being into believing today what it did not yesterday, but if one see another as the one NOW tricked, then this be proof one has fallen prey to the oldest trick in the universe themself........NOTHING IS REAL UNTIL A POINT OF REFERENCE OR COMPARISON IS CREATED, SO WHAT IS NEXT FOR EACH THAT HOLD TRUE TO A BELIEF AND SEE NOT THAT THE TRUTH CHANGE EACH SECOND......ALL THINGS HEARD AND SPOKEN CONTAIN TRUTH, THEN WE HAVE FOUND ALL WISDOM, AND THE TRUTH CAN BE MADE KNOWN AT ALL TIMES, AND NO TRICKERY CAN DECIEVE AGAIN, LOL.......

I was born without a religion and live on eternal plains of heaven without the use of a religious book.

Why my god is so powerful he is chuckling at anyone who cannot accept different possiblities of how everything started.

If you truly want to walk the path of light then believe everyone will make it to heaven. Those who believe or not!

He is so wise he accepts all religions together in one grab. He also accepts all who don't believe and says join the party! He loves all and he says you don't have to limit yourself to one religious belief system. Why you don't even have to believe in one and you are safe. He is better then that!

If you truly think about it you can answer the questions I provided in the forum and not try to be elusive preaching a book that was written 2000 years ago and revised hundreds of times.

If there is a God he accepts all regardless of what they believe even if that person doesn't go page for page with the bible, koran, torah, or whatever book there is out there to read.

Just think that the possiblity is there that the very religion you so truly believe in could be nothing more then man made imagination. It could also be very well taken that it is a book written by a god that really didn't want the human race to survive in the end! Those possiblities are there even if you put as a logo "true christian" that doesn't allow you to answer the question directly and say that your belief doesn't see the question.

If you can't think outside of the scope and understand that we are all created equal and all will go to that eternal happiness then you truly will never see peace on this planet.

A religious book is nothing more then laws set up by man to control the masses.

Good luck with your fairy tales Morningsong and thank you for sharing them for I will use them for my work to entertain people for fun only and not push to make people believe.

Yes I think I can go with what you stated. Everyone has their own belief system and believe what they want. That is true.
Some use religion for it is a neccessary to keep them happy and sane and some don't need it and still feel comfortable with their lives. Each individual is different. I think a open mind is something that works best for anything is possible. It is just to sad that many don't want to believe that other possiblities are there.

My, how the heathen do rage and imagine vain things!!!!

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And my how quickly christian's judge others for using their brains and thinking for themselves.

i was going to make a comment , but i will pass



some things are much better left unsaid



ahhhhhhhhh... it's time to go catch some z'sssss

I CAN SAY I SECOND THE NOTION THAT THE THING THAT HAS WHISPERED TO YOU THESE GREAT TRUTHS DOES NOT LIE, AND EVEN I BARE RECORD THAT ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE DONE AND ARE TRUE........

EXCEPT ALL FAIRY TALES DO COME TRUE ALSO, AND HAVE A REASON THEY BECAME AS FAIRY TALES, AND THIS REASON STILL ELUDES YOU.....AND ALSO ALL WILL COME TO SEE NOTHING WAS AS LAWS, BUT RATHER PROPHECIES OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ALL MEN THAT EVER LIVED A MORTAL LIFE, BUT THIS WILL BE REVEALED BY THE SAME VOICE THAT WHISPERED EVERYTHING ELSE HERE TO YOU......SMILES

SO YOUR MIND HAS HEARD GREAT WISDOM, BUT YOU HAVE INTERPRETED IT THRU FEAR, AND IMAGINED "HEATHEN" AND "VAIN" AS ONLY POSSIBLE "BAD" THINGS, LOL......GO BACK TO THE WELL THAT SPOKE THESE TRUTHS AND SEE HOW THEY CAN BE HEARD AND NOT BE INTERPRETED BY THE CONSCIOUS MIND AS "BAD" AND YOU FIND THE TRUTH THAT HAS ELUDED YOU AND STOLEN ALL LOVE AND HAPPINESS FROM YOUR LIFE, AS EVEN THE LOVED ONES YOU HAVE CUT OFF AS "IGNORANT" WILL BE RESTORED.......YOU CANNOT HAVE PEACE UNTIL YOU FIND OUT HOW THEY HAVE DONE NO WRONG, AND YOU SEE YOUR ERROR IS ROBBING YOU EVEN OF THEM.......IT IS YOU THAT HAVE HEARD ALL THRU YOUR OWN MORTAL MIND, AND SHOW YOU HAVE NOT BEEN LIFTED TO THE PLACE OF ALL TRUTH YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF YET............

Well, it seems to me that you are asking one of those types of questions like "If elephants could fly - what kind of helmet would you wear to ..."

Well - you get the point.

So. I'll play along.

What would I do if I came to find out that God was really Satan, and vice versa.

Why, I'd say what everybody would:

"Gee, I didn't know. But that's okay - cause I WAS JUST KIDDING!"

it is not so far fetched if one read and hear that "satan" was called only the mortal interpretation of the mind, that will do and say evil, and god was only likened to the truth that rest in the heart of all man, that make men "see" how all things work together for a "common" good.......

certainally why Jesus called many as devils and they were only men, thinking thru the "law" of religion......

and then he called many "beloved" that did not try to "hide" their sins by claiming their own "salvation", and came each time to their aid, even calling all that threw the first stone as vipers, and many more as their father the devil, lol......

certainally it is not hard to remember he was called for what he "spoke" a devil himself, so why would any not see the potential that if anything speak the truth in this time, that they might also be seen and called as devils, and not christians, lol.....

funny that Jesus himself never named himself to any "relgion", but embraced all that he seen and heard except those that did not see how others could be saved or "good" also, lol......

and these it seems he helped the same, with words of the truth that showed them their own delusions, and even at times angry words were used to drive out of churches those that sold and profited from the supposed truth as "interpreted" by them, lol........ones that were even in that day called as wise religious leaders and priests........ones that seen "themself" as "good men" of the truth, lol.....

it was indeed the minds of men that only "wished" to believe they were christians, lol......

LOL... a silly notion. This is why I say that... all of life's temptations are nothing more than a tease...it's like walking around life with a carrot in your face & never really getting the prize. That's the curse put on us because of the devil's lies.

OTOH...my walk with God fills me with joy & life, & satisfies even my very soul. God's glory could of love & power & presence has everything I need. BTW...there is also kingdom heaven living here on earth. It's VERY true.

Now why would I want to dwell on an idea that I KNOW is not true? Think about that....

I feel that we were merely trying to think outside the box and that there is nothing wrong with that. If God exists he did not create us to be puppets and blindly follow any path. I have studied the bible most of my life and have come to find that many of its teachings are those that I do not agree with. Therefore I choose my own path. Maybe those of you are condemning us for not blindly following should take a look at the love that Jesus preaches in his word? He certainly did not use words of hate and condemnation in his teachings to get those to follow. I do not condemn any one in any faith for their beliefs. But, I do like to get people to think outside the box. It is in my nature to do so and I feel that it is beneficial to make others do so as well!