Just because a guy's NOT a player, and not out "chasing" after women, doesn't mean he doesn't merit someone's attention.

Thankfully, some women realize that. Even if some of those women are users...

if it's not dead..it certainly is on its last leg...like one foot in the grave the other on a banana peel...

Please refer to my numerous posts on the issue of nice guys. The main reason nice guys don't get women often is because they shy away from things, they are not outspoken of their own ideas/ideals, and to save arguement they agree. That and the constant telling someone "you're beautiful" does tend to grow a tad old after awhile.

define for me your version of "nice" I'm not trying to be a smart azz here, just curious as to why if you are so nice, you're not getting women...

But like Fear said "You're beautiful" ALL the time doesn't cut it.

Perhaps I'm not "aggressive" enough for some women? I've been married once, but she was a schizophrenic too, so that didn't work out too well...although, hey, I gave it a try!

I prefer women to approach me, instead of the other way around. But if they want to pick up and leave, when I'm perfectly content to remain where I am...let them leave without me.

What's so bad about Florida? I've lived here over half my life...and I like it. Never have snow to shovel, for one thing. It gets cold enough HERE, why would you want to go somewhere you freeze for three months or more a year?

Plus, why should I leave a perfectly good job to move somewhere else? Job...which means income...has to come first!

Any smart woman can spot a player or a PUA.

That isn't chilvlris (god I wish I could spell) doll.... Just saying..

Chivalry is alive and well, and being passed down from fathers to sons, at least in my family...

I think that what a woman does or does not do or expect will change what one does out of courtesy or self respect...

Chivalry is not done because she is a lady, it is done because I am a gentleman...

If I'm treating them right, which I do, why should they WANT to move to another state? Why not be satisfied with what they HAVE?

Maybe they feel stagnant...Who wants to feel that way?

Funny...I've never felt "stagnant".

well that's good for you, but maybe they did, hence why they wanted to move.

If she was a lady she'd appreciate it... GAWD, someone who "get's it"

I believe there is a subtle difference between being chivalrous (i.e. courteous; gentlemanly) and a nice guy.

Nice: pleasant in manner; good-natured; kind

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A leopard doesn't change his spots, and a man's innate character does NOT change over time.

First lesson: you CAN'T change him, ladies. Who he is when you meet him is WHO HE IS. He doesn't suddenly become a "deadbeat"...he always was one.

I'm beginning to think that a decent, respectable women is a pipe dream, a "Holy Grail" if you will.

Well It may have killed it for some...but still lives and breathes in me
I have always seen women as equals and even if my significant other is very independant minded I still hold doors, etc...it does not show inequality...just respect and sometimes affection toward others. I have had doors held for me by women and I take no offense or feel it is demeaning...I just say thanks and go on. I wish there was more civility toward each other on both fronts

Humm it is only dead if Men let it die!!

Only problem with that is that if there were no children before, there is no way to really know that. Especially, if the person has always been able to pay their own bills, and for groceries, clothing, what not. Don't forget. Many here married in their early 20s.