another user posted a thread about being depressed. i know that she and
i aren't the only ones here who have this problem. if you are or have
suffered from clinical depression, and are comfortable with sharing,
help me let her know that she's not alone. as understanding as people
who haven't experienced this can try to be, it's comforting to hear from
people who have been in the same situation.

good morning "morebass"..I have, still am depressed..battled with it
almost all my life..theres nothing wrong with it and there is help. i'll
be more than happy to talk to your friend, cause i know how it feels,
trust me, i do!! but, there is help out there. so, let me know. Im here
and it will actually help me to help someone else if i
can..thanks..

Depression is always on my shoulder. I handle it by looking for what
could be worse. It works for me. I am alone, due to wife's death, kids
all at a distance. WORSE: something happens to kids or grandkids & I am
TOTALLY alone.
I am alone, but have my chow dogs. WORSE: something happen to them.
I am alone, but have friends around. Worse: something hapeen to my
friends or their familys.

Helps me see how things are better than what I am focusing on. Try
figuring what is depressing you & what would be worse.

Helps me.

depressin' still on me tooo--it's killin' me--bleeehhh!!!

so true, sage..I lost my mother 5 yrs ago to cancer. My dad was so lost
and fell into a minor depression for about a year, but then realized he
had to move on. So, he sold his house, moved 200 miles from here, bought
a real nice manufactured home. A year after that, met his 2nd wife,
which i was so surprized, i didnt think he would ever marry again..But,
my dad couldnt be happier. God bless him, hes' going to be eighty march
4th..and very healthy. But, depression can hit anyone. Its a chemical
imbalance of the brain. And the medications they have out now are
remarkable. But, if not treated, depending on the person it can get
worse.. I know a couple of people that have and i hate to say it,
commited suicide because they let it go and got real bad..sad!! I suffer
from mild and am on medication and see a counsouler as well..helps
alot!

medication can be tricky. my friend was bi-polar, and they couldn't seem
to get her meds right. she jumped off the roof of a parking garage this
past summer...

well at list it was not brang on to them from being strotyped out
from being forced in to lonlyness

and seens hes not strotyped out he got eveion a 2nd chance at life

but when you are a guy whos only avrage dont have lots of mony are
rely good looking then you get these forced in to lonlyness no woman
will give you the time of day

thay will put up a cover but for real as I know been here and
seen with my own eyes how are world is men and woman strotype out so
bad lonlyness if forced apone some and the ones whom its not never see
it as thay are blind only good looking and mony has a life

well at list it was not brang on to them from being strotyped out
from being forced in to lonlyness

and seens hes not strotyped out he got eveion a 2nd chance at life

but when you are a guy whos only avrage dont have lots of mony are
rely good looking then you get these forced in to lonlyness no woman
will give you the time of day

thay will put up a cover but for real as I know been here and
seen with my own eyes how are world is men and woman strotype out so
bad lonlyness if forced apone some and the ones whom its not never see
it as thay are blind only good looking and mony has a life

wow..yeh py-polar is something else..theres a difference between that
and just depression..they cant get the medication right, thats messed
up..

so you us drugs to cover up the porblum are truth so you can feel
better sounds like are world drugs
meds are drugs

Ok let's talk about my depression problems and issues and let's see what
develops out of this.

But for the most case I don't think I will need drugs to help me with my
depression problems as this is NORMAL in life to go threw mental
depression as simple counseling and yes communication and
open-mindedness to talk about it openly could help while others would
hide their depression and issues from others. But I just don't think
drugs will help me in any case.

Here's my situation... how would any person deal with going threw 14
straight years of total isolation from the world and people around you
or in this case... a person like myself???

To go threw where a person is FORCED into a state or type of loneliness
not because I want to be alone. but forced there by most of the majority
of ladies out there because I am sterotyped out left and right.

... You see for me. It wouldn't matter how nice I would look out in
public. Wouldn't matter how self-confident in my approachability I have
with a charming sweet smile and communication skills and friendliness
attitude. It wouldn't matter in either the online or offline world of
dating.

Some to most people will not come to grips to admit that. when it comes
to YOUR LOOKS | COVER | OR APPEARENCE... the fact is... when most ladies
would see my picture or appearence... they wouldn't give me the time of
day either way to get to know me as a person and as a human being. Even
if it's just to be friends...

I've seen it all and have been witnessed to these events ALL of the most
part of my life regardless. I have been forcibly DENIED happiness and
have been forced whether I do or I do not want to be... into loneliness
regardless like a piece of garbage and left to my fate by the ladies and
people in general whether I like it or I don't.

I can go on and on and on and on about how to explain this. Point and
the fact is (and I proved this in many cases on my own) that in our
society today not just in our nation. But for the world's stage... if a
person doesn't have the qualifications of decent, goodlooking, hot or
sexy type looks to the opposite of the sex... then nobody will give you
the time of day... it's just a fact and way of life for me up to this
point.

Now most would say that I would have to try and try and try again until
I find somebody. BUT... it's easy for a person to tell another person to
move on and to get over the situation and to go about life to try and
make ourselves better. NOT EVEROYNE can do this if you do not have the
looks or appearence. I for one cannot just go out there and find
somebody that easy because it's VERY TRUE that looks are what most of
the majority of people go for instead of looking at the heart of a
person.

My point is... If people would actually STOP STEROTYPING a person out
all the time. The world would be a much better place and people would be
more happy instead of DOWNING or PUTTING DOWN or FORCING a
person/persons into a state of loneliness for what they LOOK LIKE
instead of seeing the HEART of a person!!!

It's a FACT and it's TRUE!!!

now thats a true statement that is truth how well I know what you
are talking about strotypeing is a big porblum

as one do not aske to be born and look the way thay do but look how
woman tret guys

I know what you are saying and it is truth and guys like you and me
are forced in to lonlyness for no reson other then we was born and
bye woman sad but true

don't need drugs for depression--a shot or two of whiskey usually calms
me--not an everyday thing, anyway--

LOL SHADOW....

Ya... JUST SAY NO to DRUGS..!!!

correcto, bro

oldsage has the right idea. cognitive therapy is the idea that negative
thinking patterns contribute a great deal to depression. learning to
recognize when i was using these negative thinking patterns and
balancing them with healthier thoughts was something my counselor and i
worked on. but depression is more than just thoughts; if you think this
way for too long, it creates a chemical imbalance in your brain. this is
clinical depression. while counseling alone is effective in treating
depression, the most effective treatment is a combination of therapy and
medication. there is nothing wrong with taking medication. some would
argue that we as a society are too medicated. but others would point out
that recognizing depression as a true physical illness is a relatively
recent development. besides, medication is temporary. when the imbalance
is corrected you can taper off. my shrink and i are actually going to
talk about possibly stopping my meds next time i see her. i'm not saying
that everyone who is depressed should be medicated. but i would
encourage everyone who is depressed to talk to a professional and talk
about all the different treatment options.

EXACTLY MOREBASS..THATS WHAT IM SAYING..NO MATTER WHAT FORM OF
DEPRESSION, EVERYONE THAT HAS IT SHOULD SEEK HELP OR IT COULD GET
WORSE..I'VE SEEN IT..AND MOST DRUG ADDICTS AND ALCHOLICS SUFFER FROM
DEPRESSION EVEN MORE SO THAN SOMEONE THAT ISNT..I KNOW, ADDICTION RUNS
IN MY FAMILY INCLUDING ME..BEEN SOBER FOR 4 MONTHS NOW, STILL FEEL A
LITTLE DEPRESSED, BUT MUCH BETTER THAN WHEN I WAS USING..

counceling really helped me.. yrs ago.. and i would sugest both one on
one and group.. in group you get an idea of how depression affects
others as well..helps you to actually understand yourself better. they
depression usualy stems from childhood something that was tramatic to
you in your life. yes i still have depression.. but with all the
counceling i did <320> hours Ie: parenting a difficult child,depression,
marriage etc.. I am thankful i have the "tools" as they call it, to pick
back up and use them again..People please go talk to someone if u have
depression..it really does help
and u are worth it !!!!!

I have battled depression most of my life, started in childhood with
trauma, and continued in my adult life when I married an abusive
alcoholic. Am in therapy now to deal with the issues I still pack
around from his abuse. I firmly believe in counseling, and meds if they
work for you, to help you get through the depression. Has made a major
change in my life. When I came out of my 10 year marriage, I was so
beat down, I couldn't look anyone in the eye, could barely tolerate
walking into a grocery store because people would look at me, he had
kept telling me how worthless I was and how everybody hated me, I could
barely go out in public, but I forced myself with every ounce of my
being to do that, I forced myself to get a job, and get up and go to
work every day, and I made friends and I took classes and made more
friends, and I went into cousenling and dealt with the depression
issues. I took meds off and on to helkp through the rougher parts.

I have been suicidal at many points in my life, starting in my teenage
years, due to issues at home, and then during my marriage, and still
occasionally think about it, but would never hurt my grandkids like
that, would never leave that legacy for them.

Bill and Chishma - I am concerned about what you write. As above, I
have dealt with depression and have my own issues I am still dealing
with. I am concerned that because of your negative feelings you are
projecting that negativity into your first impressions when you meet
people. If you meet someone and they see you as a negative person, they
are going to walk away. They want someone to make them smile and be
happy.

And Bill, I worry about your son, you say you don't act this way around
him, there is no way possible you can feel this, way, talk this way, act
this way and have it NOT AFFECT HIM. GET REAL. This stuff is oozing
out every pore in your body, you need to contact someone to get some
help, either a doctor, mental health professional, someone to talk to.
I have posted places for you to get help before. When you posted your
serial killers post and some of your others, I am concerned for you and
your son, and you need to take the first step to get the help. Sitting
home writing these things on the computer is not helping you or your
son, and you need help to deal with your anger issues. If you deal with
your issues, then you can get on with your life and very likely find
happiness and not feel this way anymore. It concerns me that your posts
about serial killers talk about hurting women, that really scares me.

marie is right. i started this thread to be a positive place for someone
who is depressed to see that they aren't alone. sharing your feelings is
important and healthy, but please - do it constructively.