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Edited by
Rapunzel
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this is really silly
 well, you probably won't be hearing back from Star_Tin_Gover any time soon...  for he happens to work very hard many hours a day in his highly technical, very professional career ...  & more than likely he is getting some much needed rest  about now, being that it is about 1:00 AM in his time zone,  & especially being that he needs to wake up & rise & begin his new work day in just a very few hours  |
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this is really silly well, you probably won't be hearing back from Star_Tin_Gover any time soon... for he happens to work very hard many hours a day in his highly technical, very professional career ... & more than likely he is getting some much needed rest about now, being that it is about 1:00 AM in his time zone, & especially being that he needs to wake up & rise & begin his new work day in just a very few hours sorry punzel - he started the hardcore comedy not me, i was just making light comedy - he turned it into the deroggatory turn it took - if he don't want to keep it up thats fine with me - but i can go as far as he want's to take it - his choice not mine 
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and "iamageorgiagirl" thats the point of the thread that believers are willing to praise a God that will allow the torture of their love ones...the same love ones that by human standards are not evil souls ..but are only being torture because they choose not to praise a God that would cause and/or allow the torture of others .... Why do you think hell is a place like a city or that ending something like an evil soul means torturing it? If you believe in hell or that you will go to hell for being a non-believer then you are not a non-believer.     
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the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... truth is constant and never change therefore the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself because everything else may be a delusion ... it is impossible to prove you don't exist to yourself and impossible to doubt that you do exist to yourself.... this is the template that all truth must be measure..if it doesn't meet these simple standards then it can not be relied upon as being truth So, by this - are you claiming that truth is absolute? |
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god be only the truth of what each mans destiny or path happen for, and what it's purpose be........mankind had to have MURDER to know what NON-MURDER was......is that such a far-fetched concept....no different than night needed day to have a knowledge of either one! as long as want or need exist Man will be forced to Murder to live as long as man need food and water to live then Man will have to murder to obtain it ..this is the gift of a loving god "this is the gift of a loving god" where does your definition of "GOD" come from......if it comes from the bible, the only thing it says there is "god" is the voice of the heart, the place where "love" exists.....is this a physical place.....can you physically "cut out" the heart of a human and remove the feeling of love or hate......NO!!! then neither is the word "god" a physical being, but rather the feeling of "emotions" within a human...... the devil the same......hell is what WE or ANY man create that HOLD IN BITTERNESS OR HATE!!! THAT IS ALL IT SAYS......speak the hate to expell it.......says if you have a problem or aught against another go and TELL THEM......FIX IT, LOL..... a computor thinks, has logic we have programmed into it.....but NO FEELINGS......love feelings are known as "godly".....hate feelings are known as "satan" or the "devil"....... in other words if one listen to the "hate" feelings or "bitterness" they feel, they will create as a devil, and if one listens to the "vulnerable place"....the one we hide with the ego, we grow love...... so the gift of "god" is EMOTIONS.........good AND bad emotions, as if one does not feel "negative" about certain behaviors, then we do not know "GOOD" feelings OR what needs to be said to "fix" these negative things........ if we do not feel the "good" and "bad" feelings, we have NO BASIS FOR WHAT IS BETTER........so satan the devil and god or lord is needed and contained within all emotions.....nothing more, nothing less......each human have the "potential" to create works of the devil, and works or deeds of "god"....... these are the only principles the bible speaks of.....it is just an explaination of emotions and their "potential" and HOW they work......that is all the bible is if all the words and principles are seen as a WHOLE...... if one think of the bible as a book of commandments...... then it is no different than a child thinking all the parent says is a bunch of rules....... the parent is not telling or MAKING the child FEEL they are only there or entrusted to just keep them SAFE!!! if one is no longer a child, then they come to see that all things written are not rules but how to UNDERSTAND oneself, to be HAPPY........it is said all will "naturally" feel rebellious if TAUGHT the wrong things..... you have definitly heard much spoken and taught that has been taught from others that are SCARED for themselves, and this be the only reason people say what they do.......FEAR......the father of fear was called the DEVIL.....one passes thru fear to reach LOVE yea? so ALL passes in life from a thinking that a "devil" exists, to a place where "god" exists, to what is the end?? the beginning of wisdom........ all CAN BE GOD OR THE DEVIL INCARNATE....... not a human born is not born into FEAR.....the first impulse or feeling coming out of the womb? FEAR...... we just get so used to it we don't FEEL it.......only perfect love cast out fear......so what be perfect love.......the TRUTH explained if it be ALL the truth will take away FEAR of what the mind "think" god and the devil is, lol...... even in a relartionship with another, we must pass thru the FEAR that they will or could or may have "bad" intentions and "HURT" us...... as to muder shall always continue......ONLY IF WE STAY DUMB AND MUTE TO THE TRUTH, by thinking there is a ONE MAN CALLED AS GOD, AND ONE DEVIL CALLED THE BEAST.....the beast only represent FEAR that each beast, human alike, feel while on the planet, unless we FIND the truth!!! |
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the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... truth is constant and never change therefore the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself because everything else may be a delusion ... it is impossible to prove you don't exist to yourself and impossible to doubt that you do exist to yourself.... this is the template that all truth must be measure..if it doesn't meet these simple standards then it can not be relied upon as being truth once i was 5 years old, now i am 41.....this does not negate that i once was 5, but the WHOLE truth now is i was 5 and now ALSO i am 41......the truth then has changed or evolved....... the thought the truth be constant is the natural way of the mind, but only a half-truth, not living in WHOLE logic..... this is what has been taught as a first nature, or natural way of thinking......NOT A DEFECT.......something that is needed for a point of reference......a comparison EVERYTHING EVOLVE OR GROW AS IT LIVE......the universe expands each day, every flower, every animal, every insect, every MIND.......SO ALL THINGS CHANGE CONSTANTLY.....it is the principles of the truth that do not change, or are constant.....these are the ONLY things that are constant....... THESE I JUST LISTED......ALL THINGS FOLLOW A LAW OF THE UNIVERSE......TO SAY ANYTHING IS CONSTANT EXCEPT THE PRINCIPLES THAT BUILT THE UNIVERSE IS TO NOT SEE THE WHOLE TRUTH, and keep one judging or thinking all others that do not believe what THEY do are wrong....... question is, what the hell makes mankind so stupid to not SEE.....the thought that WRONG exists???.......if one learn something NEW, was not the old thing they KNEW WRONG THEN..... THE "FEELING" ONE IS "DUMB" OR "WRONG" PERPETUATE ALL MANS IGNORANCE AND MISERY....... TO LOOK BACK AND SEE HOW "WRONG" OUR ANCESTORS WERE IS TO NOT SEE THAT THE TRUTH GROWS UP AND THEY SACRIFICED FOR US TO LEARN WHAT WE KNOW NOW......THEN WE LEARN EACH SECOND AND KNOW ALL THAT EACH SPEAK BRING "MORE" WISDOM.......different than knowledge......knowledge grab to somewthing that make one feel "smart"......wisdom see nothing learn unless it pass the place where one "feel" wrong or no learning can exist.....ALL HEARING AND SEEING IS VALUBALE DATA AND THE ONLY WISDOM......that save mankind from itself and it's ignorance, or perhaps ignorance is just a words, that one should see is only innocence......having not experienced YET a point of reference or what wrong could happen......ANYTHING THAT HEAR TRUTH KNOWS ALL THINGS ARE TRUTH, EVERY LAST THING SEEN, HEARD, TASTED, SMELT, AND FELT...... IT IS THINKING OTHERWISE THAT MAKE HUMANKLIND BLIND TO THE OBVIOUS......if one has an agenda to even be in the "truth", then the truth is missed, and why history repeats itself.... WISDOM LOOK AND DIG UNTIL IT FIND HOW EVERYTHING IS TRUE, AND ADD EACH PIECE OF TRUTH ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER.....THINK ONSELF IS THE ONLY TRUTH, AND ONE LEARN FROM NOTHING EXPCEPT WHAT IS JUST LIKE THEM......HOW DOES THIS ADD TO ONESELF MORE WISDOM, LOL........THIS MAKES MEN WALK AROUND IN IGNORANT PRIDE NOT KNOWING THEY ARE BLIND AND MUTE AND ONLY REPEAT THE SAME WORDS OVER AND OVER, LOL.......JMO |
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davidben1,
Love your analogies! Do you have a girlfriend? No, better not go there... funches is my  Seriously, cool!
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davidben1, Love your analogies! Do you have a girlfriend? No, better not go there... funches is my Seriously, cool! NO MAN MAKE HIMSELF BELIEVE WHAT HE BELIEVE, AS WHAT HUMAN HAS SEEN ANYTHING WITHOUT THE EXPOSURE TO AND SACRIFICE OF EVERY LAST BEING THEY HAVE SEEN AND HEARD ON THE WAY.....SMILES EACH WOMEN IS MY FRIEND, SO EACH IS A GIRL AND A FRIEND, LOL.......HWO DOES ONE FIND THE WHOLE TRUTH LESS THEY ARE WILLING TO FORSAKE ALL TO FIND IT.......MY JOURNEY IS NOT ONE I WOULD EVER ASK ANY WOMEN TO FOLLOW ME ON......
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!!  Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap. i presume you meant "GRAD" school but i forgive your pre school grammer  speaking of pre-kiddy garden - i guess we will have to compare diaper's huh? that is if and when i get to the point again of there need - how many do you go through a day in pre kiddy garden how many fingers? show me? this many - !!!!!!! - seven - wow you have to poo poo alot huh ??? - poor mommy turnover - you sure keep her busy Nope, once again you looked through the wrong part of your tri-focals. I said GRADE school. Grab your walker with the new tennis balls and shuffle over to your dictionary table and check it out.
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and "iamageorgiagirl" thats the point of the thread that believers are willing to praise a God that will allow the torture of their love ones...the same love ones that by human standards are not evil souls ..but are only being torture because they choose not to praise a God that would cause and/or allow the torture of others .... Why do you think hell is a place like a city or that ending something like an evil soul means torturing it? If you believe in hell or that you will go to hell for being a non-believer then you are not a non-believer. I'm simply going by what the bible states...and according to the bible God created hell to torture non-believers ..since believers say that God is a God of Love then shouldn't the torment of others be included into their equation of what Love is..... that Love to a believer means suffering |
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the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... truth is constant and never change therefore the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself because everything else may be a delusion ... it is impossible to prove you don't exist to yourself and impossible to doubt that you do exist to yourself.... this is the template that all truth must be measure..if it doesn't meet these simple standards then it can not be relied upon as being truth So, by this - are you claiming that truth is absolute? well "Eljay" you can find that out absolutely by answering this simple question ...do you "believe" you exist to yourself or do you "know" you exist to yourself or are you "unsure" you exist to yourself? the thing I like about this question is that there is no way anyone can give a deceptive answer without sounding delusional or find out that they are delusional |
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the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... truth is constant and never change therefore the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself because everything else may be a delusion ... it is impossible to prove you don't exist to yourself and impossible to doubt that you do exist to yourself.... this is the template that all truth must be measure..if it doesn't meet these simple standards then it can not be relied upon as being truth once i was 5 years old, now i am 41.....this does not negate that i once was 5, but the WHOLE truth now is i was 5 and now ALSO i am 41......the truth then has changed or evolved....... so "Davidben" what truth changed? ..are you saying that you didn't exist when you were 5 years old or that now at 41 years old you no longer exist? ... you may have been having a delusion that you were 5 years old or maybe you are a 5 year old having a delusion that you are 41 years old ..but either way you look at it... your existence to yourself never changed ..truth never evolve ..truth never change ..truth is constant ..like your existence to yourself |
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap. i presume you meant "GRAD" school but i forgive your pre school grammer speaking of pre-kiddy garden - i guess we will have to compare diaper's huh? that is if and when i get to the point again of there need - how many do you go through a day in pre kiddy garden how many fingers? show me? this many - !!!!!!! - seven - wow you have to poo poo alot huh ??? - poor mommy turnover - you sure keep her busy Nope, once again you looked through the wrong part of your tri-focals. I said GRADE school. Grab your walker with the new tennis balls and shuffle over to your dictionary table and check it out. great comeback, i'm so impressed wel i'm to old to hobble over to my dictionary stand but i do have a book of limerick's beside me here and in looking through it i found one i think fit's the situation quite well: A child named turnover the "jester" felt it his duty to pester he tried to be clever, but in his endeavor he never succeded his quest there. he thought if he kept being cute the one who respond's would go mute but being quite clever's, a life time endeavor and one that a child can't compute. Instead he continued to babble, nonsensical word dribble drabble his comeback not smart like the air of his f*rt left him in ruinious rabble. So waste all your time if you wanna as for me? well i'm just not gonna the outcome is clear, you'll never come near to the king of the comedy cornah!! |
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap. i presume you meant "GRAD" school but i forgive your pre school grammer speaking of pre-kiddy garden - i guess we will have to compare diaper's huh? that is if and when i get to the point again of there need - how many do you go through a day in pre kiddy garden how many fingers? show me? this many - !!!!!!! - seven - wow you have to poo poo alot huh ??? - poor mommy turnover - you sure keep her busy Nope, once again you looked through the wrong part of your tri-focals. I said GRADE school. Grab your walker with the new tennis balls and shuffle over to your dictionary table and check it out. |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Wed 06/25/08 10:32 AM
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap. i presume you meant "GRAD" school but i forgive your pre school grammer speaking of pre-kiddy garden - i guess we will have to compare diaper's huh? that is if and when i get to the point again of there need - how many do you go through a day in pre kiddy garden how many fingers? show me? this many - !!!!!!! - seven - wow you have to poo poo alot huh ??? - poor mommy turnover - you sure keep her busy Nope, once again you looked through the wrong part of your tri-focals. I said GRADE school. Grab your walker with the new tennis balls and shuffle over to your dictionary table and check it out. great comeback, i'm so impressed wel i'm to old to hobble over to my dictionary stand but i do have a book of limerick's beside me here and in looking through it i found one i think fit's the situation quite well: A child named turnover the "jester" felt it his duty to pester he tried to be clever, but in his endeavor he never succeded his quest there. he thought if he kept being cute the one who respond's would go mute but being quite clever's, a life time endeavor and one that a child can't compute. Instead he continued to babble, nonsensical word dribble drabble his comeback not smart like the air of his f*rt left him in ruinious rabble. So waste all your time if you wanna as for me? well i'm just not gonna the outcome is clear, you'll never come near to the king of the comedy cornah!! that's not even one bit funny...  nor is it even < remotely > true ... {{{{{ <<<<< Star_Tin_Gover >>>>> }}}}} is more of a {{{ <<< Real Man >>> }}} than " most " can even < hope >to be |
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap. i presume you meant "GRAD" school but i forgive your pre school grammer speaking of pre-kiddy garden - i guess we will have to compare diaper's huh? that is if and when i get to the point again of there need - how many do you go through a day in pre kiddy garden how many fingers? show me? this many - !!!!!!! - seven - wow you have to poo poo alot huh ??? - poor mommy turnover - you sure keep her busy Nope, once again you looked through the wrong part of your tri-focals. I said GRADE school. Grab your walker with the new tennis balls and shuffle over to your dictionary table and check it out. great comeback, i'm so impressed wel i'm to old to hobble over to my dictionary stand but i do have a book of limerick's beside me here and in looking through it i found one i think fit's the situation quite well: A child named turnover the "jester" felt it his duty to pester he tried to be clever, but in his endeavor he never succeded his quest there. he thought if he kept being cute the one who respond's would go mute but being quite clever's, a life time endeavor and one that a child can't compute. Instead he continued to babble, nonsensical word dribble drabble his comeback not smart like the air of his f*rt left him in ruinious rabble. So waste all your time if you wanna as for me? well i'm just not gonna the outcome is clear, you'll never come near to the king of the comedy cornah!! that's not even one bit funny... nor is it even < remotely true... {{{{{ <<<<< Star_Tin_Gover >>>>> }}}}} is more of a real Man than most can even hope to be sorry punzel, as i stated he's the one who got nasty first - not me - hopefully this will end it for him and you, lovebirds.
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sorry punzel, as i stated he's the one who got nasty first - not me - hopefully this will end it for him and you, lovebirds. It doesn't matter which monkey starts throwing poo first, they all end up with poo on their hands. |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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sorry punzel, as i stated he's the one who got nasty first - not me - hopefully this will end it for him and you, lovebirds. It doesn't matter which monkey starts throwing poo first, they all end up with poo on their hands. {{{{ <<< Spider >>> }}} well, let's all wash our hands for heaven's sake and be done with it ...  yuccky
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Edited by
tribo
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Wed 06/25/08 10:47 AM
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thank you for your courtesy <<< Tribo >>> but , as far as i read... he wasn't even talking to you , though... and you came in when he was speaking with Abra... and you started atacking him... when it didn't even have to do with you and then you wouldn't let it go so...if that was me...  and someone was trying to attack my credibility , i would not back down for one second either a humerous reply of the same nature would have sufficed atv the beginning, however he took it to a wholeother level, thats why the continuation, if he wants to stop it he can just not reply, thats what i intend in doing - well see if he does. as for spiders remarks he's doing just the same answering something that was not anything to do with him, but i wont comment on his take.As far as that goes your doing the same - why? |
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