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god be only the truth of what each mans destiny or path happen for, and what it's purpose be........mankind had to have MURDER to know what NON-MURDER was......is that such a far-fetched concept....no different than night needed day to have a knowledge of either one! as long as want or need exist Man will be forced to Murder to live as long as man need food and water to live then Man will have to murder to obtain it ..this is the gift of a loving god |
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god be only the truth of what each mans destiny or path happen for, and what it's purpose be........mankind had to have MURDER to know what NON-MURDER was......is that such a far-fetched concept....no different than night needed day to have a knowledge of either one! as long as want or need exist Man will be forced to Murder to live as long as man need food and water to live then Man will have to murder to obtain it ..this is the gift of a loving god the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... for everything the mind say, the good and bad, it is only for one to say so be it, then what happens is indeed ones destiny, and if one is AFRAID of what that will be, they will never follow it, and if it is not followed, then the BLISS that lay at the end of the tunnel is not YET found..... |
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the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... truth is constant and never change therefore the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself because everything else may be a delusion ... it is impossible to prove you don't exist to yourself and impossible to doubt that you do exist to yourself.... this is the template that all truth must be measure..if it doesn't meet these simple standards then it can not be relied upon as being truth |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 06/19/08 12:23 PM
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the TRUE reason is was said to LAY DOWN ONES LIFE to find the truth...... truth is constant and never change therefore the only absolute truth is the existence of yourself to yourself because everything else may be a delusion ... it is impossible to prove you don't exist to yourself and impossible to doubt that you do exist to yourself.... this is the template that all truth must be measure..if it doesn't meet these simple standards then it can not be relied upon as being truth I think a much better word for it would be illusion. Everything is an illusion. The only thing real is self. We live and operate in a dream-like holographic matrix. Everything is reflection and illusion. JB |
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well, the serial killers may go through the motions of asking for forgiveness but i can assure you, that unless they have a truly repentant heart ... their Names will not be written in The Lamb's Book Of Life the Lord will say to them " Depart From me, oh worker of iniquity ~ I never knew you " < i can't remember exactly the quote , but it is similar to that > a serial killer once caught and sentenced to life in prison or giving the death penalty can easily place theirselves into the mind frame to be truely rependant but if not for the fact that they have been caught they may have keep on killing within that society ...so it would be the soceity that tured the serial killer rependant and not necessarily a love of God and wouldn't that serial killer still be capable of entering Heaven while those that never killed would enter Hell Funches; If you were to take the time to examine this scenario and your hypothesis through the scriptures, you would find that this is an unlikely outcome that "society would turn the seriel killer repentant". It is not "society" that moves the hearts of men - but God. It is more likely that a seriel killer, who's only motivation toward stopping is being caught, has already been given over to the depravity they have craved. That isn't to say that it is not possible that what you are suggesting could hapen. But it would be more the exception than the rule. |
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I think a much better word for it would be illusion. Everything is an illusion. The only thing real is self. We live and operate in a dream-like holographic matrix. Everything is reflection and illusion. JB illusion is a reality that is created outside the mind to deceive one's perception... delusion is a reality created within the mind to deceive one's reality if you said that we exist in a dream-like holographic matrix.. then a dream would be a reality created within the mind that doesn't exist as reality in that capacity beyond the mind ..aka delusion |
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well, the serial killers may go through the motions of asking for forgiveness but i can assure you, that unless they have a truly repentant heart ... their Names will not be written in The Lamb's Book Of Life the Lord will say to them " Depart From me, oh worker of iniquity ~ I never knew you " < i can't remember exactly the quote , but it is similar to that > a serial killer once caught and sentenced to life in prison or giving the death penalty can easily place theirselves into the mind frame to be truely rependant but if not for the fact that they have been caught they may have keep on killing within that society ...so it would be the soceity that tured the serial killer rependant and not necessarily a love of God and wouldn't that serial killer still be capable of entering Heaven while those that never killed would enter Hell Funches; If you were to take the time to examine this scenario and your hypothesis through the scriptures, you would find that this is an unlikely outcome that "society would turn the seriel killer repentant". It is not "society" that moves the hearts of men - but God. It is more likely that a seriel killer, who's only motivation toward stopping is being caught, has already been given over to the depravity they have craved. That isn't to say that it is not possible that what you are suggesting could hapen. But it would be more the exception than the rule. "Eljay"...that senerio applies to an old adage that christians always used..."that there are no atheists in a foxhole and on death roll ..and logic dictates that they are not repentant because of God....but because of fear |
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Edited by
star_tin_gover
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Sun 06/22/08 04:52 PM
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Hmmm... So, I see Christianity has been reduced to a religion that stones it's unruly children. Therefore, it can't be valid, and should be abandoned. I wish I could say I admire this logical and critical thinking. Really, you think you've got a grasp of Christianity?  Eljay, he has been single a long time. Christianity is NOT what he has a grasp on. He is a tortured clueless soul who finds his strength in chanting the same old tired mantra that we have heard and found to be wanting on each occasion but hey, if it gets him out of momma's basement then let him humor himself. A fraud is a fraud no matter how much they try to believe their own BS trying to convince themselves otherwise. And I say this in the kindest of ways. 
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Hmmm... So, I see Christianity has been reduced to a religion that stones it's unruly children. Therefore, it can't be valid, and should be abandoned. I wish I could say I admire this logical and critical thinking. Really, you think you've got a grasp of Christianity? Eljay, he has been single a long time. Christianity is NOT what he has a grasp on. He is a tortured clueless soul who finds his strength in chanting the same old tired mantra that we have heard and found to be wanting on each occasion but hey, if it gets him out of momma's basement then let him humor himself. A fraud is a fraud no matter how much they try to believe their own BS trying to convince themselves otherwise. And I say this in the kindest of ways. Poor Abra...
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Hmmm... So, I see Christianity has been reduced to a religion that stones it's unruly children. Therefore, it can't be valid, and should be abandoned. I wish I could say I admire this logical and critical thinking. Really, you think you've got a grasp of Christianity? Eljay, he has been single a long time. Christianity is NOT what he has a grasp on. He is a tortured clueless soul who finds his strength in chanting the same old tired mantra that we have heard and found to be wanting on each occasion but hey, if it gets him out of momma's basement then let him humor himself. A fraud is a fraud no matter how much they try to believe their own BS trying to convince themselves otherwise. And I say this in the kindest of ways.  That is a very unkind and rude thing to say, so don't kid yourself about who is "clueless" or "tortured." JB |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Sun 06/22/08 05:27 PM
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Oh My ~!!! you think Star_Tin_Gover is clueless & tortured ???  You are very very mistaken... JB Rapunzel  |
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He is a tortured clueless soul who finds his strength in chanting the same old tired mantra that we have heard and found to be wanting on each occasion Oh please. Christians run around preaching the same old tired mantra that we have heard and found to be wanting on every occasion, and they have the audacity to accuse someone else of this? Jay Leno. Move over! Welcome Star_tin_gover ladies and gentlemen! Guaranteed to make you laugh with his utterly absurd sarcastic satire.    (*the crowd cheers the new comedian wildly*) |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Sun 06/22/08 06:39 PM
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<<<<< INTERMISSION >>>>>  As the commercials & cartoons start to roll Look ! It's Wiley Coyote & the Road Runner popcorn....anyone???  mmmm... it's yummy... how about some nice cold fresh lemonade ? |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Sun 06/22/08 07:04 PM
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 I'd like to ask everyone to please listen to this You Tube http://youtube.com/watch?v=-sp5iMzgENM The Balance ~ by The Moody Blues After he had journeyed, And his feet were sore, And he was tired, He came upon an orange grove And he rested And he lay in the cool, And while he rested, he took to himself an orange and tasted it, And it was good. And he felt the earth to his spine, And he asked, and he saw the tree above him, and the stars, And the veins in the leaf, And the light, and the balance. And he saw magnificent perfection,  Whereon he thought of himself in balance, And he knew he was. Just open your eyes, And realize, the way it's always been. Just open your mind And you will find The way it's always been. Just open your heart And that's a start. And he thought of those he angered, For he was not a violent man, And he thought of those he hurt For he was not a cruel man And he thought of those he frightened For he was not an evil man, And he understood. He understood himself. Upon this he saw that when he was of anger or knew hurt or felt fear, It was because he was not understanding, And he learned, compassion. And with his eye of compassion. He saw his enemies like unto himself, And he learned love. Then, he was answered. Just open your eyes, And realize, the way it's always been. Just open your mind And you will find The way it's always been. Just open your heart And that's a start. |
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!!
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Edited by
star_tin_gover
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Sun 06/22/08 08:29 PM
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester.
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now -
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap.
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>>>>> ahhhhh, back from a nice refreshing bike ride <<<<< you Guys are funny Yes, we are...We 're All just big little kids
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Edited by
tribo
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Sun 06/22/08 10:14 PM
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hey,hey,hey, - i'm the comedian around here!! not star - turnover!! Turnover? Is that a Freudian slip pertaining to your days in the crowbar motel(prison) getting a striped tan when bubba sweetly whispered that word in your ear? Yes Tribo, I humbly hand the crown of comedy back to you. Back to my duties as Jester. dont hand it over star - you have to "turnover" the crown - and no it was not a freudian slip - it was a fraudulent statement - the only bubba i know is bubba gum - youn know the stuff you used to put on the end of your nose or in your nose to make everybody laugh. - ok you can resume your duties as jizzter now - Cool. You have made it to grade school humor. It IS true eh? The older you get the more you revert back to childhood and eventually you find yourself back in diapers. We will have more fun after your nap. i presume you meant "GRAD" school but i forgive your pre school grammer  speaking of pre-kiddy garden - i guess we will have to compare diaper's huh? that is if and when i get to the point again of there need - how many do you go through a day in pre kiddy garden how many fingers? show me? this many - !!!!!!! - seven - wow you have to poo poo alot huh ??? - poor mommy turnover - you sure keep her busy
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