Topic: the REAL POLL
star_tin_gover's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:10 PM
Edited by star_tin_gover on Sun 06/08/08 08:13 PM

Well so far the poll indicates that it is only Christians who would vote no. Though not all Christians would vote no.

What is it in the Christian faith that allows some Christians to take a beleif meant to teach that person alone, how to conduct their own affairs, and then use that information to judge another?

And worse than that, they would back up their own judgement by determining that those they have found guilty are not worthy of the same treatment under the law as they would expect themselves?



This poll focuses on Christians alone. The survey statistics are readily available for the secular population as a whole as well. Have you polled non-Christians to compare notes? I think you will be shocked to find out just how mainstream the Christians are on the subject.flowerforyou
I do realize that we will continue to be the evil Christians that will eat your young if you don't convert to our collective way of thinking. (j/k)laugh :wink: flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:15 PM


Well so far the poll indicates that it is only Christians who would vote no. Though not all Christians would vote no.

What is it in the Christian faith that allows some Christians to take a beleif meant to teach that person alone, how to conduct their own affairs, and then use that information to judge another?

And worse than that, they would back up their own judgement by determining that those they have found guilty are not worthy of the same treatment under the law as they would expect themselves?



This poll focuses on Christians alone. The survey statistics are readily available for the secular population as a whole as well. Have you polled non-Christians to compare notes? I think you will be shocked to find out just how mainstream the Christians are on the subject.flowerforyou
I do realize that we will continue to be the evil Christians that will eat your young if you don't convert to our collective way of thinking. (j/k)laugh :wink: flowerforyou


Im still trying to figure out what benefits I get that they dont... (insert head scratching emotican!)

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:18 PM
1. yes
2. yes...assuming you mean social security, etc...

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:20 PM
health insurance. etc

star_tin_gover's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:21 PM
Don't know where Di is Glen but check this out. I think it covers it.
http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2006/08/26/news/news01.txt

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:28 PM

by Fanta
What benefits do I get that a gay person doesnt get redy?



FANTA, maybe if you are forced to do your own review, you will learn something. The link below is your homework assignment. It is research done by the government for the government.

Reference for the below quote:
Office, U. S. (1997, January 31). archive. Retrieved 10 6, 2007, from www.gao.gov: http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/og97016.pdf


“On January 31,1997 the United State General Accounting Office fulfilled a request by the Honorable Henry J. Hyde Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives. Here is an excerpt of the 58 page document that was supplied.” (Office, 1997)
To find laws that meet these criteria, we conducted searches for various words or
Word stems ("marr," "spouse," "widow," etc.), chosen to elicit marital status, in several electronic databases that contain the text of federal laws. From the collection of laws in the United States Code that we found through those searches, we eliminated
(1) laws that included one or more of our search terms but that were not relevant to your request2 and
(2) as agreed with your staff, any laws enacted after the Defense of Marriage Act. The result is a 1Public Law 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419. 2For example, our search for the word stem "marr," designed to capture words such as "marriage" and "marry," also produced references to laws mentioning bone marrow transplants, the city of Marrakesh, and proper names containing the letters "marr." GAO/OGC-97-16 Defense of Marriage Act collection of 1049 federal laws classified to the United States Code in which marital status is a factor.
This collection of laws is as complete and representative as can be produced by a global electronic search of the kind we conducted, but such a search has several limitations. Most significantly, it cannot capture every individual law in the United States Code in which marital status figures. However, we believe that the probability is high that it has identified those programs in the Code in which marital status is a factor.
The letter goes on to provide an accounting of the laws that discriminate against the GLBT community. Keep in mind that the list is topic relevant, meaning, there are many relevant laws that link directly to these topics. Remember, also, these are laws whose benefit is determined through marital status. Marriage union contracts that GLBT are excluded from


Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:30 PM

Don't know where Di is Glen but check this out. I think it covers it.
http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2006/08/26/news/news01.txt



In that case then why put an age limit on a parents coverage of dependent children.
No, you cant do that, and if they start allowing gays to do it it will lead to abuse of the system. If they do Im going to marry my stepbrother. He has great health insurance!!laugh laugh laugh laugh

tiffanyraquel's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:32 PM
Can I watch the consumation?devil Kinky.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:34 PM


by Fanta
What benefits do I get that a gay person doesnt get redy?



FANTA, maybe if you are forced to do your own review, you will learn something. The link below is your homework assignment. It is research done by the government for the government.

Reference for the below quote:
Office, U. S. (1997, January 31). archive. Retrieved 10 6, 2007, from www.gao.gov: http://www.gao.gov/archive/1997/og97016.pdf


“On January 31,1997 the United State General Accounting Office fulfilled a request by the Honorable Henry J. Hyde Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary House of Representatives. Here is an excerpt of the 58 page document that was supplied.” (Office, 1997)
To find laws that meet these criteria, we conducted searches for various words or
Word stems ("marr," "spouse," "widow," etc.), chosen to elicit marital status, in several electronic databases that contain the text of federal laws. From the collection of laws in the United States Code that we found through those searches, we eliminated
(1) laws that included one or more of our search terms but that were not relevant to your request2 and
(2) as agreed with your staff, any laws enacted after the Defense of Marriage Act. The result is a 1Public Law 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419. 2For example, our search for the word stem "marr," designed to capture words such as "marriage" and "marry," also produced references to laws mentioning bone marrow transplants, the city of Marrakesh, and proper names containing the letters "marr." GAO/OGC-97-16 Defense of Marriage Act collection of 1049 federal laws classified to the United States Code in which marital status is a factor.
This collection of laws is as complete and representative as can be produced by a global electronic search of the kind we conducted, but such a search has several limitations. Most significantly, it cannot capture every individual law in the United States Code in which marital status figures. However, we believe that the probability is high that it has identified those programs in the Code in which marital status is a factor.
The letter goes on to provide an accounting of the laws that discriminate against the GLBT community. Keep in mind that the list is topic relevant, meaning, there are many relevant laws that link directly to these topics. Remember, also, these are laws whose benefit is determined through marital status. Marriage union contracts that GLBT are excluded from




I do plenty of review from unbiased sources. I dont need your biased ones.
My question was directed to give you perspective. Reality!
If you extend these benefits to gays then there will be much abuse and you might as well extend them to everyone. Cause sooner or later they are going to demand them also!

Just like in the article steve just linked!

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:35 PM
This poll focuses on Christians alone. The survey statistics are readily available for the secular population as a whole as well. Have you polled non-Christians to compare notes? I think you will be shocked to find out just how mainstream the Christians are on the subject.
I do realize that we will continue to be the evil Christians that will eat your young if you don't convert to our collective way of thinking. (j/k)


the poll asks if one is a Christian (yes or no) is a good indication of who is and who isn't.

furthermore the legislature, form the ENDA, to the Mathew Shephard Act, to the DOMA and the marriage act and now the state civil unions, have all lost for one reason and one reason alone - the Christian faction.

Why do so many Christians feel vindicated in judging others by the standards they are personally unable to meet? And having done so how do they have the audacity to believe they are righteous in denying others an equal opportunity to pursue their own PERSONAL path, no matter how it deals with THEIR God?

scttrbrain's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:37 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Sun 06/08/08 08:38 PM

This poll focuses on Christians alone. The survey statistics are readily available for the secular population as a whole as well. Have you polled non-Christians to compare notes? I think you will be shocked to find out just how mainstream the Christians are on the subject.
I do realize that we will continue to be the evil Christians that will eat your young if you don't convert to our collective way of thinking. (j/k)


the poll asks if one is a Christian (yes or no) is a good indication of who is and who isn't.

furthermore the legislature, form the ENDA, to the Mathew Shephard Act, to the DOMA and the marriage act and now the state civil unions, have all lost for one reason and one reason alone - the Christian faction.

Why do so many Christians feel vindicated in judging others by the standards they are personally unable to meet? And having done so how do they have the audacity to believe they are righteous in denying others an equal opportunity to pursue their own PERSONAL path, no matter how it deals with THEIR God?


huh That isn't to this thread...by the way.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:40 PM
Have you never heard of a power of attorney or executive of estate?

scttrbrain's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:42 PM
If you are in a same sex relationship...it doesn't hold up. People in 25 year relationships, don't get diddly.
Kat

Rathil_Thads's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:43 PM
1.) No

2.) Yes

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:44 PM

If you are in a same sex relationship...it doesn't hold up. People in 25 year relationships, don't get diddly.
Kat


Bull****!!!

scttrbrain's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:46 PM


If you are in a same sex relationship...it doesn't hold up. People in 25 year relationships, don't get diddly.
Kat


Bull****!!!

Bull sh1t all you want. It is fact. Family has first option. It is a story told all over these states.


creativesoul's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:46 PM
???? Define Christian :wink: ????

Yes.

wouldee's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:47 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 06/08/08 08:59 PM
bigsmile

Well so far the poll indicates that it is only Christians who would vote no. Though not all Christians would vote no.

What is it in the Christian faith that allows some Christians to take a beleif meant to teach that person alone, how to conduct their own affairs, and then use that information to judge another?

And worse than that, they would back up their own judgement by determining that those they have found guilty are not worthy of the same treatment under the law as they would expect themselves?





good question, Redy.

If I were there, myself, I would answer that accordingly.:wink:

But I am not.

You didn't ask for qualifying answers.

Even in doing so, agendas cannot be assumed to be or not be the imposition.

As you know, the subject of constitutional law is a very complex one.

Partiality and preferential treatment by decree creates new minorities.:wink:

It is certainly an uphill battle for the glbt community.

There are too many reasons for me to say no in response to your question #2.

But it has nothing to do with judgements about the rights of others. It has more to do with my own being abrogated.:wink:

Let's leave it at that and assume rather that my answer was nobly tendered in sincerity and simplicity, not as a duplicitous insult to you.

OK?

peace.
flowerforyou :heart:

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:47 PM
I do plenty of review from unbiased sources. I dont need your biased ones.
My question was directed to give you perspective. Reality!
If you extend these benefits to gays then there will be much abuse and you might as well extend them to everyone. Cause sooner or later they are going to demand them also!


You are a sad, sad, little man, Fanta. I hope you have at least one decent friend, someone who cares enough to make you get some help. You are bitter, paranoid and can not think critically or even rationally at times. If you truely believe in the benefit of prayer, I think it would behoove you to ask your Christian friends at the coffee hourse to do thier thing.

I will not acknowledge you further!

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:48 PM
A power of attorney (POA) or letter of attorney in common law systems or mandate in civil law systems is an authorization to act on someone else's behalf in a legal or business matter. The person authorizing the other to act is the principal or granter (of the power), and the one authorized to act is the agent or attorney-in-fact.

Whomever is appointed executer of real property family or not has the right to sell the real property unless otherwise mentioned in the will of the deceased.