can a person be against christianity as a whole, yet not against particular chistians?

if the answer is YES.

can the same concept be applied in other instance such as:

can a person be against homosexuality as a modus vivendi, yet not against particular individuals who choose to be homosexuals? or

can a person be against abortion as a practice, yet not against individual mothers who are faced to such hard decision?

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oh oooh yah dude fur sho

yes yes and yes

yes on all accounts. But, quite often, ppl who are against some of the ideas cannot separate the practicers from the idea.

Absolutely. But I have to imagine that a person who is against an idea/group/philosophy as a whole, yet can accept one of it's "members" would be well-served to re-evaluate their distaste for such ideology/group/philosophy.

Methinks he/she might just discover they are a happier person if they choose to throw such judgments out the window.

I believe it's possible. people who dislike christianity probably have friends who are christian. I think they hate the beliefs that christianity is based on not the individual who believes in them.

same thing would go for homosexuals and people deciding in favor of abortion. They hate the idea and don't believe it is correct behavior or the right decision for someone to make but they don't hate the individual that makes such a decision.

Much of the hatred for homosexuals and abortions comes from people believing that their christian religion tells them that these life decisions are wrong or sinful.

and those are known as fundamentalist christians. I'm absolutely against fundamentalism.
Fundamentalism in both ways christian and non-christian.
YES, because non christians can fall also into fundamentlism. When they don't expose ideas or trains of thought, but hate.

Personally I think your fallacy is in your above quote Miguel.

I'm certainly not against Christianity anymore than I'm against Greek Mythology.

It's neither prejudice nor moral judgment of any kind to believe that something is false.

All the other examples you gave are examples of moral judgments.

You're comparing apples with oranges.

People who believe that the biblical stories are myth are not passing moral judgments on the people who claim to believe the stories are true.

I don't think Christians are bad people because they believe in the Bible. Although I have met a lot of people who claim to be Christians but who show extremely hypocritical behavior with respect to what they claim to believe. But that's a whole other story. That is based on individuals, not on Christians collectively.

So I don't see where there's any comparison in the things you've listed.

One is a non-belief.

The other things you've mentioned are moral judgments passed on other people for specific behaviors.

So I think you're entire question is misguided.

Most people aren't so much against Christianity. They simply don't believe that it's true.

The people who are against specific "Chrisitans" are probably against them because those specific "Christains" are using their religion to pass moral judgements on others.

Yet the way people express that "something" is false. it seems more like a prejudice than a simple expression of a way of thinking.

Actually maybe I shouldn't say this.

Some people may very well be against the organized religious politics that is often hidden behind the veil of "Christianity".

Let's not kid ourselve. There are Christian organization that are quite politically active. And they breed hatred toward the religion because they use the religion as a politcal clout.

So in that sense there probably are people who are against Christian-based politics.

And where do you draw the line between politics and religion then?

It's not an easy line to draw.

Stating things impolitely is not prejudice. It's just crude.

I confess to be crude myself almost constantly. I used to walk on eggshells. I've given up. Now I just blurt things out.

But I try to only blurt out what I believe to be truths.

The fact that other people find them distasteful does not equate to prejudice on my part.

Miguel, without looking at other people's answers first ...

I am totally against christianity, but the people who need to use it, I have no problem with. Its the hypocrisy I have an issue with

Homosexuality and abortion are a natural part of humanity and as such I have no problem with the subject nor the people who are associated with it.

I have some friends who voted in past elections for politicians who not only did not support my particular causes but made my life and others more difficult becasue of their views.

Now, those friends did not vote this way in opposition of me or my friends life style. They voted as they did becasue they had their own political needs, mostly regarding business and foreign policy,which affected their personal lives and the lives of other loved ones as well.

Because we don't share political prefrences do I disregard their fiendship? I never have.

But,if I knew someone who would cast a vote specifically designd to keep me and my loved ones in a position to be discriminated against - should I desregard their friendship? I probably would. Wouldn't you?

then why those people should try to be careful with what they say, if they don't get the same back?

ah I know!!!!!!!!

because they proselityze

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......
Love the sinner but hate the sin, brother. Even if he is an irritating geek who talks out of both sides of his pocket protector.

Fantastic question Miquel!


Perhaps it is all a matter of how deeply one has established a personal morality and ethics code. Moreover, how much the opposing notion negatively affects the individual on a personal level.

Good thought provoking question!

It is also good to see you!!

When it comes to homosexuality you can't do that. You can't spearate the sin from the so-called sinner.

A homosexual person is what they are.

If you hate homosexuality, then you hate the homosexual person. The sin and the sinner are inseparable.

If you hate the sin, you hate the sinner in this case.

So Christianity becomes bigotry in its finest gory glory.

A man is standing in a room, is he gay or straight? No way to tell just by looking at him. Sexuality is a characteristic of a person, not the person. Your logic is faulty.