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So I happen to be very opinionated, forthright and not afraid of conflict. When I strongly believe in something I defend it as is my right and duty to do so...why does that translate in other people as me being angry?? Does this happen to you? Do you think it happens more to women than men, since women generally are assumed to be passive and non-confrontational??? This place is starting to give me a complex.... 
I don't get the angry thing but I do seem to hurt somes feelings when I express my thoughts or concerns too outspoken they say. 
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That would be the feminazi bullsh*t that keeps assholes at bay... Works well huh?? why should she or anyone else have to conform to what others want them to be? A very wise woman once told me... "Look at your hand, you have 5 fingers, you need them all, all of them are different, people are like fingers, they are all different, but you need all of them." Well behaved Women seldom make history...... 
True but don't complain about your disposition if you are proud to be a certain way. You have to right to be "different" but people also have to right to treat you differently as a direct result. You reap what you sew...DEAL WITH IT. Don't complain that society should change to fit your own standards, that is close-minded and selfish. She just wants to be accepted the way she is. If a woman is strong and has opinions all the wee minded men think she is angry and bitter. That is not true. Maybe she is just smarter than they are and they can't handle it. |
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Society may put that persona on you but deal with it; otherwise, good luck finding a man; if the man become submissive, he's either metro, has no backbone and becomes your puppet, or gay and not out of the closet... Conformity is not a virtue, rather it denotes a lack of courage. Sweet and demure aren't in my vocabulary. And I don't want a submissive man either, rather a man that can go toe to toe with me, and give and take. You get treated in the manner you act in life, act like a doormat, get treated like a doormat. Act like a victim get treated like a victim, act like a mature responsible stong adult individual and get treated with respect. Those who don't treat me with respect...get the same in return. Treat me well, and you'll get treated well. This isn't rocket science.... |
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I'm (and I'm assuimg we're) not saying that a woman shouldn't be opinionated or stand up for herself. But yes, some people aren't going to react that as kindly as they would someone that is more easy-going and less argumentative. If that's the person you want to be and you love that about yourself, then you go girl and rock on. But if you don't like the response you are getting from people, perhaps you should consider toning it down a tad.
Make sense?
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Is it just me or is the general caliber of the people and the replies on this site going down? I can't believe some of the stuff I see. I prefer it this way rather than some moderator censoring peoples posts and taking away my absolute right of free speech. But it's not absolute if you read the TOS agreement... If you want to say whatever you want start your own website. |
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I'm sorry, thought you asked a question.
Be as you want to be, no one has the right to EXPECT you to change. I was just trying to reply to a site family member's question. Why did you make this thread, if you REALLY didn't want people's thoughts. We reached out to be slapped for trying?? I hope you find what you seek. Ever want to talk, I wll always listen.
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Or maybe she's nieve-minded and selfish that the world should change for her own reasons.
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some people here seem to have gotten the wrong idea about my post...I am not asking for advice on how to change, nor do I feel badly about who I am..on the contrary..I am merely suggesting that when a woman states her opinion she is often labeled as angry...
I find it distressing that anyone would suggest I try to "back down, choose my words more carefully, learn when not to speak....". While I expect it from men, its even more sad when it comes from women.... These are the things we tell our daughters everyday and effectively steal their voices from them before they ever get a chance to speak for themselves..... |
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She did ask a question Don. And didn't like the answers.
Strength and courage are one thing. I have those! I suspect many or most women here do for one reason or another. It doesn't mean you can't be soft and choose your battles. |
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Or maybe she's nieve-minded and selfish that the world should change for her own reasons. or maybe you are... just saying..
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Edited by
TheMaverick
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Fri 05/30/08 09:01 AM
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Is it just me or is the general caliber of the people and the replies on this site going down? I can't believe some of the stuff I see. I prefer it this way rather than some moderator censoring peoples posts and taking away my absolute right of free speech. But it's not absolute if you read the TOS agreement... If you want to say whatever you want start your own website. I learned that in media law, it is completely legitimate, however, my professor said in contract law these TOS agreements are subject for a Supreme Court precedent and may not be constitutional. |
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some people here seem to have gotten the wrong idea about my post...I am not asking for advice on how to change, nor do I feel badly about who I am..on the contrary..I am merely suggesting that when a woman states her opinion she is often labeled as angry... I find it distressing that anyone would suggest I try to "back down, choose my words more carefully, learn when not to speak....". While I expect it from men, its even more sad when it comes from women.... These are the things we tell our daughters everyday and effectively steal their voices from them before they ever get a chance to speak for themselves..... Absolutely... I teach my daughter to question authority, even mine... 
The more you talk, the bigger my lady crush gets on you... 
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Sorry we all seem to have misunderstood.
I don't think I had any pointers on how to not speak. I support everyone to speak their mind. Just do it with MANNERS. Something many people seem to lack these days. |
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Or maybe she's nieve-minded and selfish that the world should change for her own reasons. I don't think wanting to be understood is "nieve-minded" whatever that means or selfish. |
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Is it just me or is the general caliber of the people and the replies on this site going down? I can't believe some of the stuff I see. I prefer it this way rather than some moderator censoring peoples posts and taking away my absolute right of free speech. But it's not absolute if you read the TOS agreement... If you want to say whatever you want start your own website. I learned that in media law, it is completely legitimate, however, my professor said in contract law these TOS agreements are subject for a Supreme Court precedent and may not be constitutional. Maverick... you chose the wrong name sir.... |
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Sorry we all seem to have misunderstood. I don't think I had any pointers on how to not speak. I support everyone to speak their mind. Just do it with MANNERS. Something many people seem to lack these days.
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Society may put that persona on you but deal with it; otherwise, good luck finding a man; if the man become submissive, he's either metro, has no backbone and becomes your puppet, or gay and not out of the closet... Conformity is not a virtue, rather it denotes a lack of courage. Sweet and demure aren't in my vocabulary. And I don't want a submissive man either, rather a man that can go toe to toe with me, and give and take. You get treated in the manner you act in life, act like a doormat, get treated like a doormat. Act like a victim get treated like a victim, act like a mature responsible stong adult individual and get treated with respect. Those who don't treat me with respect...get the same in return. Treat me well, and you'll get treated well. This isn't rocket science.... Someone ALWAYS is a dominant in the relationship; sometimes you can dominate the same amount of different things in a relationship but the scale always tips one way or the other. A "strong" woman is looking for a somewhat submissive man otherwise it doesn't work... Several breakup because of arguing. Arguing that stems from one person wanting to control the other... You're right it isn't rocket science. |
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Is it just me or is the general caliber of the people and the replies on this site going down? I can't believe some of the stuff I see. I prefer it this way rather than some moderator censoring peoples posts and taking away my absolute right of free speech. But it's not absolute if you read the TOS agreement... If you want to say whatever you want start your own website. I learned that in media law, it is completely legitimate, however, my professor said in contract law these TOS agreements are subject for a Supreme Court precedent and may not be constitutional. Maverick... you chose the wrong name sir.... No I am, because I actually say the truth and don't fluff my posts with bull **** like some people do...I say it how it is (I got banned from this site once for saying it how it is, that's why I created this name). |
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Sorry we all seem to have misunderstood. I don't think I had any pointers on how to not speak. I support everyone to speak their mind. Just do it with MANNERS. Something many people seem to lack these days. |
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Someone ALWAYS is a dominant in the relationship; sometimes you can dominate the same amount of different things in a relationship but the scale always tips one way or the other. A "strong" woman is looking for a somewhat submissive man otherwise it doesn't work... Several breakup because of arguing. Arguing that stems from one person wanting to control the other... You're right it isn't rocket science. It goes to the Alpha experiments, Strong doesn't have to mean arguementitive. I can't be with a weak man, cuz I'm not a weak woman, it's called give and take, and it takes a strong person to do that. It takes a weak person to do all the taking... In 10 years maybe you'll understand interpersonal relationships a bit better?? I'm hoping so. |
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