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And also remember redy that every single one of us is a sinner including everyone here....and if they say they are not....they are lying. I think we try very very hard not to....but we always fall short....Hope that helps a lil. um actually no, no help at all because you've totally ignored the post I made. Can you possibly try a more rational and logical responce. Cos the point of my post was to determine if homosexuality really is a sin or just a misinterpretation. Try again sugar, just a 'lil harder. |
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Evidence of the Holy Spirit: Convicting of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment (John 16:8-10). Then there is an filling of the Holy Ghost. This is much more than a work of conviction. It is an on-going condition by which we are actually purged of sin and changed fundamentally and permanently. This is the sealing work. The Holy Spirit settling us into the truth so that we cannot be moved. The Spirit will not always strive with men. Is the Holy Spirit even now being redistributed? For too long what has been marketed as being full of the Holy Spirit is not being full of the Holy Spirit at all. Kat |
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 Is anybody here familiar with televagelist John Hagee or watch his show?
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And also remember redy that every single one of us is a sinner including everyone here....and if they say they are not....they are lying. I think we try very very hard not to....but we always fall short....Hope that helps a lil. um actually no, no help at all because you've totally ignored the post I made. Can you possibly try a more rational and logical responce. Cos the point of my post was to determine if homosexuality really is a sin or just a misinterpretation. Try again sugar, just a 'lil harder. Ohhhhhhhh....I have researched that also Di. I said that somewhere recently. I also saw where it very well may have been mere interpretation of those that wish to deceive. Or more so.. control. Kat |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Wed 05/21/08 07:01 PM
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Is anybody here familiar with televagelist John Hagee or watch his show? I know him. He came to my church and preached. He was quite a man. I enjoyed him very much. As a matter of fact I have him on cd from that time. Kat |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 05/21/08 07:01 PM
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Is anybody here familiar with televagelist John Hagee or watch his show? I know him. He came to my church and preached. He was quite a man. I enjoyed him very much. Kat  I just seen on the news that he said that Adolf Hitler was sent by "GOD" to hunt the Jews.
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Is anybody here familiar with televagelist John Hagee or watch his show? I know him. He came to my church and preached. He was quite a man. I enjoyed him very much. Kat I just seen on the news that he said that Adolf Hitler was sent by "GOD". scuse me while I pick up my jaw. Kat |
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He certainly wasn't like that when I heard him. Or at least he didn't say so. He was awesome. Does God send us anything? I thought it was all on us?
Kat |
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Rainbow, as always, I enjoyed what you've shared. I do like history a great deal. Kat, so you have trouble reconciling all that you have been "told" the Bible means. Your own reading has has indicated to you that someting is either amiss or missing. If that's the case then it seems to me that any sin that might follow from misunderstanding could not be somthing for God to harbor against you. If that's the case then why all this staunch, unbendable, closed minded bigoty? Of course that's not a biblical question, so consider it rhetorical. (no answer required) Optional answer given: God loves ALL of us. If God loves all of us equally, who are we to not love each other equally as brothers and sisters?  A kiss for ya Red.
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Rainbow, as always, I enjoyed what you've shared. I do like history a great deal. Kat, so you have trouble reconciling all that you have been "told" the Bible means. Your own reading has has indicated to you that someting is either amiss or missing. If that's the case then it seems to me that any sin that might follow from misunderstanding could not be somthing for God to harbor against you. If that's the case then why all this staunch, unbendable, closed minded bigoty? Of course that's not a biblical question, so consider it rhetorical. (no answer required) Optional answer given: God loves ALL of us. If God loves all of us equally, who are we to not love each other equally as brothers and sisters? A kiss for ya Red. I love ya! I love everybody.....Kewl. Kat
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No I can't say I ever heard of that evangelist, sorry Kat, I hope you didn't like him THAT much.
Star tin aren't you sweet, thanks. Kat I just replied to someone in the 10 question thread about the Holy Spirit; Evidence of the Holy Spirit: Convicting of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment (John 16:8-10). Then there is an filling of the Holy Ghost. This is much more than a work of conviction. It is an on-going condition by which we are actually purged of sin and changed fundamentally and permanently. This is the sealing work. The Holy Spirit settling us into the truth so that we cannot be moved. The Spirit will not always strive with men. So there is supposed to be a way to determine if the HS resides with a person. See, now I just told Michael### that his argument was irrational becuase there is absolutely no tangible way to determing if someone has the HS in them. So now you say there is. mm but I still don't get it - how does one see the HS in someone. Like if a guy says God talks to him and tell him to take every follower into the mountains. How does someone know whether to follow or not. I mean is it like gay-dare can Christians just "see it" or "feel it" in others? |
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Ok Redy you got it....but it will take me a lil time....it's lengthy and it takes alot of research for all the translations....
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Wed 05/21/08 07:58 PM
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As long as I'm waiting for the answer to my other questions let me ask a much simpler one.
the the first book of the New Testament (Matthew) is the record of the geneology of Jesus Christ. Now it follows a great many generations all the way down to Joseph, the husband of Mary , of whom was born Jesus. Now here's the thing. Women in jewish society are matriarchs, it is only through them that the blood line can stem. So how is it that Jesus is connected with the entire geneology of Joseph, and what does that have to do with anything? Is it not Mary's blood line that should be considered. It still is this today, it hasn't changed, so why does the Bible record it this way? |
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Yea TLW, this is a nice place. I think I'll stay a while. I have lots of questions. But first I'm still waiting for the answers to my 'second' post. Should I repeat it? [/quote No, actually Redy, no offence, but I am under no obligation to answer someone's questions just because they ask. |
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Well Di, it's like this. I only knew his name before. Then got to meet him. Then he spoke at our church and was so awesome. He never ever talked like he would say something like that. I think I need to hear him say it.
Kat But...now listen to this: I AM SOOOO CONFUSED! I AM POSTING ANSWERS IN THE WRONG THREADS! ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!! Idjit idjit idjit. And...I can't find some of them. I think I need to go to bed. Kat |
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Romans 8 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Ok, this is a puzzle that Britty has set me to solve. ohhh I get it I see. Well that even answers my question about how one knows the about the HS infesting someone. |
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Edited by
Redykeulous
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Wed 05/21/08 08:23 PM
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Ok, so here's the jest of what Britty wrote. It's all that stuff about Jesus being sent to set man free of the OLD law. The Jewish law. It goes to on to explain that instead of following the old law now people just had to follow the path of the Holy Spirit. Of course it goes through all the information about those who continue to sin will die - as opposed to those who follow the HS will still die but will be resurected. Am I right?
It also goes on to explaine that receiveing the this spirit of God is not to make you a slave again to fear but rather to receive sonship - like being adopted by God. Ok but then it gets funky becuase it says that creation was frustrated by the will of God that made it a form of bondage to the children of God. So it looks like we all existed before, but our soul or spirt was placed into human form like a bondage. So we are slaves after all, to this life, and who knows, maybe there really is reincarnation. Who knows how old our souls are and how many times God has made us captive in one form or another. mmm - what a stange thing for you to tell me Britty. Of course there's always the chance I've misinterpreted, after all it is the Bible. |
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Deceit is in the heart of those who devise evil, But counselors of peace have joy. (Prov 12:20) 
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Edited by
Britty
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Wed 05/21/08 08:49 PM
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Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
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1Corinthians 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
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