Topic: "I AM" .... TECHNOLOGY
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Fri 05/09/08 12:08 PM
Edited by wouldee on Fri 05/09/08 12:13 PM

are the faithful more likely to break God's laws in front of god but not in front of a camera, so is it inevitable that technology will replace god and can even be used to regulate religious behavior in a positive way as a teaching aid ..

when the faithful breaks one of God's laws the first thing they claim is that they are not perfect, but what if the believer had a chance to prove to God that they would be willing to be as perfect as a human could possible be pertaining to God's laws... would they jump at this chance....

since few could possible remember all the laws God has set forth and therefore finds themselves in a position to break them then what if all of God's laws could be uploaded and connected to a device in the form of a cross that would either beep or vibrate or say "I AM" anytime they were about to break any of the laws set forth by God

are there any of the faithful that would wear such a device ..if so then why.. and if not then why not



The device you seek is not made with hands.

It is beyond the commandments of God and is only given as an offer.

It is the Holy Spirit which shall lead one onto all truth and testify of Jesus and is only given by the Father in Jesus' name.

The Holy Spirit accomplishes to do all that you suggest and more.

But that one suugestion bears more weight in judgement than all of the laws of God given to man.

Yet it is hidden by man from man, while being more glaring a light than the whole of the laws of God.

This is a law unto itself, for it's very reminder is why the law was given.

To be wriiten in the mind and on the heart of man.

Somehow, that has eluded being edited out of the Holy Bible and eluded the attention of so many that read it's contents.

It is also eluded the ears that hear and the eyes that see when the offer is reminded all men today by the saints.

It is what it is.

A visible secret.

A treasure hidden in plain sight.

A truth not well received but shared through time immemorial ever since revealed.

The hidden riches of God are free for the asking, not in the adherence to God's laws.

Ask that you may receive.

Seek that you may find.

Seek God, not man for access to that which is given.

Put it into the hand to be possessed of it.

:heart:

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Fri 05/09/08 12:10 PM

Kurzweil first defines the Singularity as a point in the future when technological advances begin to happen so rapidly that normal humans cannot keep pace, and are "cut out of the loop." Kurzweil emphasizes that this will have a profound, disruptive effect on human societies and on everyday life, and will mark the end of human history as we know it. In place of normal humans, Strong Artificial Intelligences and cybernetically augmented humans will become the dominant forms of sentient life on the Earth. The Singularity will be initiated once self-improving Artificial Intelligences (sentient, highly intelligent computer programs capable of quickly redesigning themselves and their offspring to improve performance) come into existence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near




well this is already taking place and that's one of the reasons why I asked the question ...but would the faithful be willing to wear such a device to show God their devotion

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Fri 05/09/08 12:11 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 05/09/08 12:13 PM


Kurzweil first defines the Singularity as a point in the future when technological advances begin to happen so rapidly that normal humans cannot keep pace, and are "cut out of the loop." Kurzweil emphasizes that this will have a profound, disruptive effect on human societies and on everyday life, and will mark the end of human history as we know it. In place of normal humans, Strong Artificial Intelligences and cybernetically augmented humans will become the dominant forms of sentient life on the Earth. The Singularity will be initiated once self-improving Artificial Intelligences (sentient, highly intelligent computer programs capable of quickly redesigning themselves and their offspring to improve performance) come into existence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near




well this is already taking place and that's one of the reasons why I asked the question ...but would the faithful be willing to wear such a device to show God their devotion
flowerforyou Human and machine will be the same, combining the best aspects of both. flowerforyou This wont change anyones belief in "GOD".flowerforyou

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Fri 05/09/08 12:14 PM
This conversation assumes that God somehow is punishing us for making us flawed and I just don't see God being so bitter and dare I say, moronic.

God already knows we are imperfect and forgives us as long as we are honestly trying. We are not ever going be able to follow every law of God it is impossible, but in worshiping him and not using our imperfection as an excuse to INTENTIONALLY fail, he will show us the grace and love that is only possible through his divinity.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:14 PM

wellNo need for you to judge people, that's not your job. That's should ideally be up to god.


"joshyfox" ...the question has nothing to do with it being my Job ..it is just a device to remind the faithful that they are about to break God's laws...

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/09/08 12:14 PM
flowerforyou As long as humans have free will, they will have religion.flowerforyou The evolution of technology doesnt change that fact.flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/09/08 12:16 PM
flowerforyou Just as "GOD" has male and female traits, he also has machine traits.flowerforyou

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Fri 05/09/08 12:17 PM
Edited by IamMewhoRU on Fri 05/09/08 12:21 PM






There exists such a "device", but you know it not - and it is not for man to tell you. There's only one way to find out - adhere to God's commandments, and He'll show you things that'll make your head spin. :smile:

- doesn't 49=64?


if it is not for man to tell you then the bible wouldn't exist and you wouldn't know any of these laws .....come on please no parables...it's a simple question


God's Word is like a map to the treasure.


...er... ok.....right


sounds like a typical caveman response...ok....we're good...<<leaving>>


well "iammewhoareyou" it appears if you were wearing the device it would start beeping....it's just a simple question ..no need to get nasty or talk in parables


hey Bruticus....I am talking and acting like myself. And I'm not wearing any device nor would be.....are you lost and seriously that scrambled up there dog? lay off the whippits and harsh psychodelics.Although this subject is kinda interesting to think about if it actually happends. I'm reading the article now Mirror on Wikipedia....hold up.....

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Fri 05/09/08 12:18 PM
There will never be a need for such a device. "The faithful," as you put it, are guided by God himself. Jesus said it well: the two greatest commandments are "love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind and with all your strength," and "love your neighbor as yourself." In these two are summed up all the prophets and the Law.


It's not about keeping commandments or laws. That leads to legalism, and legalism leads to things like the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades. It's a matter of the heart.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:18 PM


wellNo need for you to judge people, that's not your job. That's should ideally be up to god.


"joshyfox" ...the question has nothing to do with it being my Job ..it is just a device to remind the faithful that they are about to break God's laws...


It was not your topic I was referring to, sir. I meant how you automatically came to the assumption that if iammewhoareyou was wearing one of these devices it would be beeping. It may be true it may not be, but I felt the statement was out of line.

I apologize for my outburst.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:20 PM

There will never be a need for such a device. "The faithful," as you put it, are guided by God himself. Jesus said it well: the two greatest commandments are "love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind and with all your strength," and "love your neighbor as yourself." In these two are summed up all the prophets and the Law.


It's not about keeping commandments or laws. That leads to legalism, and legalism leads to things like the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades. It's a matter of the heart.


Well there you go, thank you for putting it so well.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:20 PM

The device you seek is not made with hands.

It is beyond the commandments of God and is only given as an offer.

It is the Holy Spirit which shall lead one onto all truth and testify of Jesus and is only given by the Father in Jesus' name.

The Holy Spirit accomplishes to do all that you suggest and more.



well "wouldee" surely you know that some of the faithful either don't care or forget that the holy spirit is hovering around and may need a little inducement to remember ...that is what the "beeper cross" is for

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Fri 05/09/08 12:23 PM
Edited by joshyfox on Fri 05/09/08 12:25 PM


The device you seek is not made with hands.

It is beyond the commandments of God and is only given as an offer.

It is the Holy Spirit which shall lead one onto all truth and testify of Jesus and is only given by the Father in Jesus' name.

The Holy Spirit accomplishes to do all that you suggest and more.



well "wouldee" surely you know that some of the faithful either don't care or forget that the holy spirit is hovering around and may need a little inducement to remember ...that is what the "beeper cross" is for


I have a problem with this in that, how do they learn anything without making the mistakes in the first place?

God could've made us with all the answers already, but why didn't he? The answer is simple, he wants us to learn on our own, otherwise, what's the point?

If we blindly follow laws without understanding why they are important we are nothing but souless puppets and God did not want that as far as my understanding goes.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:26 PM
Edited by wouldee on Fri 05/09/08 12:28 PM


The device you seek is not made with hands.

It is beyond the commandments of God and is only given as an offer.

It is the Holy Spirit which shall lead one onto all truth and testify of Jesus and is only given by the Father in Jesus' name.

The Holy Spirit accomplishes to do all that you suggest and more.





well "wouldee" surely you know that some of the faithful either don't care or forget that the holy spirit is hovering around and may need a little inducement to remember ...that is what the "beeper cross" is for



the faithful never forget. We cannot. The presence of the Holy Spirit is an everpresent reminder.

Gotta know the difference, my friend.

I can't make you believe that in and of my own words.

Nor can I testify for anyone else's interpretation of "faithfulness".

Nevertheless what is in plain view remains hidden by my words, my friend. They are but my own words and I know what I know.

peace, out

:heart:

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Fri 05/09/08 12:27 PM

We are not ever going be able to follow every law of God it is impossible


so "joshyfox" are you saying that God created laws that he knew that people couldn't follow ...why would he do that? ...can you tell of these laws that is impossible to follow

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Fri 05/09/08 12:29 PM
Edited by joshyfox on Fri 05/09/08 12:33 PM


We are not ever going be able to follow every law of God it is impossible


so "joshyfox" are you saying that God created laws that he knew that people couldn't follow ...why would he do that? ...can you tell of these laws that is impossible to follow


Are the laws impossible? No. Is it impossible for a mortal to follow every one of them? Yes.

If this were not so, then Jesus would never have had to give his life for our sins. We would have all the answers and wouldn't need God's grace.


On a personal note, I believe them to be more Guidelines than actual rules. Advice if you will. You follow them, you usually avoid bad things happening as a direct result of doing those things. I believe it is God's intention to teach use wisdom and compassion through these rules.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:35 PM

flowerforyou As long as humans have free will, they will have religion.flowerforyou The evolution of technology doesnt change that fact.flowerforyou


humans only have "Free Choice" ..but through technology they will get "Free Will"

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Fri 05/09/08 12:36 PM


flowerforyou As long as humans have free will, they will have religion.flowerforyou The evolution of technology doesnt change that fact.flowerforyou


humans only have "Free Choice" ..but through technology they will get "Free Will"
happy What do you mean?:smile:

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Fri 05/09/08 12:38 PM



flowerforyou As long as humans have free will, they will have religion.flowerforyou The evolution of technology doesnt change that fact.flowerforyou


humans only have "Free Choice" ..but through technology they will get "Free Will"
happy What do you mean?:smile:


Yeah, Isn't that the same thing? Please to explain.

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Fri 05/09/08 12:43 PM

flowerforyou Just as "GOD" has male and female traits, he also has machine traits.flowerforyou


isn't God like a spiritual entity ..you mean machine like in the behavior or the demand