Topic: "I AM" .... TECHNOLOGY
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Fri 05/09/08 04:58 PM


First I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You would have to define "The Faithful" (Who are they.)
You would have to clarify God. (Who is he, which God are we talking about here..)
And you would have to present all the laws on paper so I could go over them with my lawyer.

Then, I would probably refuse the wear the thing even if I qualified to wear it, but if forced to wear it, it would probably go off all the time, and drive me crazy.

So I guess the answer is no, I certainly would not wear it.

I'll kill anyone who tries to force it on me too.

bigsmile


"JennieBean" ..if all that is keeping you from wearing the device is the beep ..remember this handy device has other settings...so if the beep start to drive you crazy then switch it to vibrate


Vibrate? mmmmmmmmm Where will this device be planted? :tongue:

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Fri 05/09/08 05:00 PM

Exempt? There are consequences to not following these laws, even if God does not directly deliver them.


which means you have to follow all and learn not to break any ..and that is when the beeper cross comes in handy


As for the Category question. He made Ten Commandment to elaborate on the Categories which can easily be misinterpreted.


god had to admend his laws so they would be more clear .. giving people less reasons not to follow them


You can Pick and choose which to obey and disobey, but you do so at your risk.


which means his laws are iron clad and all should be followed .."joshyfox" you could be the spokeperson for the beeper cross device

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Fri 05/09/08 05:26 PM



First I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You would have to define "The Faithful" (Who are they.)
You would have to clarify God. (Who is he, which God are we talking about here..)
And you would have to present all the laws on paper so I could go over them with my lawyer.

Then, I would probably refuse the wear the thing even if I qualified to wear it, but if forced to wear it, it would probably go off all the time, and drive me crazy.

So I guess the answer is no, I certainly would not wear it.

I'll kill anyone who tries to force it on me too.

bigsmile


"JennieBean" ..if all that is keeping you from wearing the device is the beep ..remember this handy device has other settings...so if the beep start to drive you crazy then switch it to vibrate


Vibrate? mmmmmmmmm Where will this device be planted? :tongue:


the device can be planted into any space that is easily accesible and since it is adjustable either by remote control or manually it can be slid in and out or flipped into any position that seems comfortable while it is in power mode and once in operation and a commandment is about to be compromised the device will begin to build up until it reaches a certain point and erupt into a signal that would indicate that a commandment has clearly been broken

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Fri 05/09/08 05:47 PM




First I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You would have to define "The Faithful" (Who are they.)
You would have to clarify God. (Who is he, which God are we talking about here..)
And you would have to present all the laws on paper so I could go over them with my lawyer.

Then, I would probably refuse the wear the thing even if I qualified to wear it, but if forced to wear it, it would probably go off all the time, and drive me crazy.

So I guess the answer is no, I certainly would not wear it.

I'll kill anyone who tries to force it on me too.

bigsmile


"JennieBean" ..if all that is keeping you from wearing the device is the beep ..remember this handy device has other settings...so if the beep start to drive you crazy then switch it to vibrate


Vibrate? mmmmmmmmm Where will this device be planted? :tongue:



the device can be planted into any space that is easily accesible and since it is adjustable either by remote control or manually it can be slid in and out or flipped into any position that seems comfortable while it is in power mode and once in operation and a commandment is about to be compromised the device will begin to build up until it reaches a certain point and erupt into a signal that would indicate that a commandment has clearly been broken



Wow, it sounds quite ...... orgasmic.

I am going to have to pass. I don't have the energy. er... I have a headache... or something.

JB

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Fri 05/09/08 09:12 PM



First I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You would have to define "The Faithful" (Who are they.)
You would have to clarify God. (Who is he, which God are we talking about here..)
And you would have to present all the laws on paper so I could go over them with my lawyer.

Then, I would probably refuse the wear the thing even if I qualified to wear it, but if forced to wear it, it would probably go off all the time, and drive me crazy.

So I guess the answer is no, I certainly would not wear it.

I'll kill anyone who tries to force it on me too.

bigsmile


"JennieBean" ..if all that is keeping you from wearing the device is the beep ..remember this handy device has other settings...so if the beep start to drive you crazy then switch it to vibrate


Vibrate? mmmmmmmmm Where will this device be planted? :tongue:

I know where I could plant one on you.....flowerforyou

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Fri 05/09/08 09:26 PM




First I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You would have to define "The Faithful" (Who are they.)
You would have to clarify God. (Who is he, which God are we talking about here..)
And you would have to present all the laws on paper so I could go over them with my lawyer.

Then, I would probably refuse the wear the thing even if I qualified to wear it, but if forced to wear it, it would probably go off all the time, and drive me crazy.

So I guess the answer is no, I certainly would not wear it.

I'll kill anyone who tries to force it on me too.

bigsmile


"JennieBean" ..if all that is keeping you from wearing the device is the beep ..remember this handy device has other settings...so if the beep start to drive you crazy then switch it to vibrate


Vibrate? mmmmmmmmm Where will this device be planted? :tongue:

I know where I could plant one on you.....flowerforyou



laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

I'm all talk, no action. laugh

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Sat 05/10/08 05:44 AM



the faithful never forget. We cannot. The presence of the Holy Spirit is an everpresent reminder.


so "wouldee" are you saying that the believers that do forget are not faithful ...


believers and the "faithful" aren't entirely a mutual exclusivity by their apparent definitions.

The "faithful" are most certainly believers in the "know".

Believers, on the other hand, are the only ones that know whether or not they are in fact counted among the "faithful" as that term is being used here, at least by me.:wink:

The "faithful" being described as such earlier cannot forget. The Holy Spirit is always mindfully present in our being, awake or asleep. It is a presence, not an exertion of one's determination to impose itself as a presence.
It is a constant reminder, given by God for many things, including discernment of the things of God, especially those things pertaining to Jesus Christ and our ambassadorship as such which includes all that which that affords. And more.

It is also a requirement of preaching and teaching Christ in truth. It is also a requirement for understanding fully the fullness of Christ in us. Thus also the moniker given in scripture, "the mind of Christ".

But this all so much minutia to explain. Best to be personally apprehended of it to explore it's vastness . It would take me too long, and that is not given me to do.:wink:

I leave that to God.

:heart:




...er...."wouldee" you say that believers and the faithful are different? ...that's a new one...and just a wee bit of a contradiction... but anyway

if the holy spirit was present to constantly remind the faithful of god's laws then the pope wouldn't had to apologize for the atrocities committed by the church ..and where were the holy spirit during the inquisition, so let's face it...it's apparent that neither believers or the faithful listen to the holy spirit as it persuasion powers over the people have become obsolete and exactly why the holy spirit need to be replace by technology to better serve god

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Sat 05/10/08 05:52 AM



Are the laws impossible? No. Is it impossible for a mortal to follow every one of them? Yes.


joshyfox....why is it impossible?



Because human beings are flawed. Human Beings forget things. Human Beings give into weakness.

The point is you are covered so try your best, but don't freak out if you screw up.


well "joshyfox" according to "wouldee" the faithful don't forget god's laws because the holy spirit is there to remind them ...which means you are not faithful but only a believer and don't have the holy spirit ...

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Sat 05/10/08 08:57 AM





First I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

You would have to define "The Faithful" (Who are they.)
You would have to clarify God. (Who is he, which God are we talking about here..)
And you would have to present all the laws on paper so I could go over them with my lawyer.

Then, I would probably refuse the wear the thing even if I qualified to wear it, but if forced to wear it, it would probably go off all the time, and drive me crazy.

So I guess the answer is no, I certainly would not wear it.

I'll kill anyone who tries to force it on me too.

bigsmile


"JennieBean" ..if all that is keeping you from wearing the device is the beep ..remember this handy device has other settings...so if the beep start to drive you crazy then switch it to vibrate


Vibrate? mmmmmmmmm Where will this device be planted? :tongue:

I know where I could plant one on you.....flowerforyou



laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

I'm all talk, no action. laugh


don't worry ...the beeper cross device can also be set to The Virgin Mary mode

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Sat 05/10/08 09:02 AM
Is it solar powered or powered by nerve impulse or nerve manipulation so to speak

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Sat 05/10/08 09:03 AM
yes i used the word manipulation. Multisyllabic laugh

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Sat 05/10/08 09:35 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 05/10/08 09:37 AM




the faithful never forget. We cannot. The presence of the Holy Spirit is an everpresent reminder.


so "wouldee" are you saying that the believers that do forget are not faithful ...


believers and the "faithful" aren't entirely a mutual exclusivity by their apparent definitions.

The "faithful" are most certainly believers in the "know".

Believers, on the other hand, are the only ones that know whether or not they are in fact counted among the "faithful" as that term is being used here, at least by me.:wink:

The "faithful" being described as such earlier cannot forget. The Holy Spirit is always mindfully present in our being, awake or asleep. It is a presence, not an exertion of one's determination to impose itself as a presence.
It is a constant reminder, given by God for many things, including discernment of the things of God, especially those things pertaining to Jesus Christ and our ambassadorship as such which includes all that which that affords. And more.

It is also a requirement of preaching and teaching Christ in truth. It is also a requirement for understanding fully the fullness of Christ in us. Thus also the moniker given in scripture, "the mind of Christ".

But this all so much minutia to explain. Best to be personally apprehended of it to explore it's vastness . It would take me too long, and that is not given me to do.:wink:

I leave that to God.

:heart:




...er...."wouldee" you say that believers and the faithful are different? ...that's a new one...and just a wee bit of a contradiction... but anyway

if the holy spirit was present to constantly remind the faithful of god's laws then the pope wouldn't had to apologize for the atrocities committed by the church ..and where were the holy spirit during the inquisition, so let's face it...it's apparent that neither believers or the faithful listen to the holy spirit as it persuasion powers over the people have become obsolete and exactly why the holy spirit need to be replace by technology to better serve god



A new one? And you don't really know the difference, funches?

you are joking, my friend. I am not.



The Holy Spirit was not in those works.

Christianity would have a died for that, a long time ago.

It is only made stronger for the glaring light of truth that shines also on itself.



funches, your device seems to be growing.:wink:

soon enough, I expect, it will be the size of a house and take a nuke to power it up.laugh

judging from the features you are adding.

peace, out

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Sat 05/10/08 09:45 AM

Is it solar powered or powered by nerve impulse or nerve manipulation so to speak


what better way to power such a device than to use the chemical signature for the wearer's own aura..for every action done by a person their brain produces a chemical to regulate it..so once evil or a tort is about to be committed it's chemical signature will become part of the aura and activate the beeper cross device

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Sat 05/10/08 10:11 AM

A new one? And you don't really know the difference, funches?


well "wouldee" the problem is that you don't know the difference... because their is no difference from a believer or the faithful since you can't be one without being the other

to be a believer you have to be one of the faithful and to be one of the faithful you have to be a believer ..so you saying that their is a differnce is "unbelieveable"


you are joking, my friend. I am not.


you mean you are serious? ..come on "wouldee" you're joking..er...right?


The Holy Spirit was not in those works.


see and that is why such a device is needed ..next time there is an inquistion or witch burning and the holy spirit doesn't show up and tell believers that it's a no no to torture or murder people atleast the beepers would go off


Christianity would have a died for that, a long time ago.


that's why they formed splinter sects or it probably would have


It is only made stronger for the glaring light of truth that shines also on itself.


that glare of truth seems to be what is blinding a lot of believers to the belief but atleast their ears would be able to hear the beep emitted from the device


funches, your device seems to be growing.:wink:

soon enough, I expect, it will be the size of a house and take a nuke to power it up.laugh

judging from the features you are adding.


well "wouldee" didn't the nay sayers say that about the cell phone and now you can watch television on it and even access the internet ...see how technology has the power to answer all prayers ..instantly

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Sat 05/10/08 01:51 PM

There's a lot of super-natural threats in the bible because really would you listen to it if you knew it was just Advice?


wow "joshyfox" ..that is one of the funniest things a believer ever typed or said

to bad I don't used those emotion-cons in any of my posts.. because I would have placed a whole row of them laughing ...and crying

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Sun 05/11/08 01:17 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 05/11/08 01:18 PM


A new one? And you don't really know the difference, funches?


well "wouldee" the problem is that you don't know the difference... because their is no difference from a believer or the faithful since you can't be one without being the other

to be a believer you have to be one of the faithful and to be one of the faithful you have to be a believer ..so you saying that their is a differnce is "unbelieveable"



you are joking, my friend. I am not.


you mean you are serious? ..come on "wouldee" you're joking..er...right?


The Holy Spirit was not in those works.


see and that is why such a device is needed ..next time there is an inquistion or witch burning and the holy spirit doesn't show up and tell believers that it's a no no to torture or murder people atleast the beepers would go off


Christianity would have a died for that, a long time ago.


that's why they formed splinter sects or it probably would have


It is only made stronger for the glaring light of truth that shines also on itself.


that glare of truth seems to be what is blinding a lot of believers to the belief but atleast their ears would be able to hear the beep emitted from the device


funches, your device seems to be growing.:wink:

soon enough, I expect, it will be the size of a house and take a nuke to power it up.laugh

judging from the features you are adding.


well "wouldee" didn't the nay sayers say that about the cell phone and now you can watch television on it and even access the internet ...see how technology has the power to answer all prayers ..instantly



funches,

Highlights of our response are mine for you to reference this answer.

NOPE.

many believe and do not follow through.

That means they are not yet in the know, but stuck on belief.

You knew that once.laugh

The faithful know.

But being beyond belief has two meanings.

such are double entendres.:wink:

This is huge fuel for a mind like yours to entertain us all with.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


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peaceflowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Mon 05/12/08 07:09 AM

many believe and do not follow through.


so "wouldee" does that mean that you yourself stone unruly children to death? ..that's one of God's laws so then do you follow that or make up excuses not to stone them little brats


That means they are not yet in the know, but stuck on belief.


no one in a belief is "in the know"..that's why it's called a belief because you don't know...


The faithful know.


if the faithful actually "knew".. then they would be called the knowful


But being beyond belief has two meanings.

such are double entendres.:wink:


beyond belief has one meaning..if it is beyond belief ... only means that you shouldn't believe it


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Mon 05/12/08 08:21 AM
there are many benefits in Christ.

One is not being held hostage by covetousness

Much of that is displayed in the history of a people that were simple and humble yet very much vain in their desire to be like other cultures that were busying themselves with things quite distracting of matters of the heart that were not relevant to the beauty of their own greater virtues.

But then, they were chastised for being dull of hearing.


All throughout the record of their lives and spirituality is the theme of their obstinate insistence on only acting on their predispositions. Those predispositions more often than not brought on their own bondages.

Stoning unruly children was one of the things that was an Egyptian dysfunction and this statute was given them (after they turned their hearts back towards the Egyptians subsequent to their deliverance from the same) as a reminder of the things left behind that were symptomatic of their oppresors' influence.

They didn't even disguise this shame in the preservartion of the record of their family history.

Yet, it gets attributed to their God by those that read of their history.

That's an odd form of transference.

It's also another example of being dull of hearing.

It appears that things Egyptian are a metaphor for things worldly.

But the dull of hearing fail to recognize that, too.


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Mon 05/12/08 10:08 AM

there are many benefits in Christ.

One is not being held hostage by covetousness


if no one would be held hostage by convetousness then every christian would retain the life style of a monk or priest just enough to have the minimum food water and shelter ..no summer homes no luxury cars ..and here's a shocker...only one television or cell phone..is that need or greed ..those that preach against convertousness amazingly are always well fed

covertousness is a part of the instinct for self preservation ..even squirrels have enough sense to horde nuts


Stoning unruly children was one of the things that was an Egyptian dysfunction and this statute was given them (after they turned their hearts back towards the Egyptians subsequent to their deliverance from the same) as a reminder of the things left behind that were symptomatic of their oppresors' influence.


but shouldn't that apply to more than the lure for some to go back to eqypt because remember god also told believers to stone adulterers ..so stoning applied to any bad behavior that went against the laws set forth by god ..so again "wouldee" ..do you stone adulterers and unruly children? ..if the answer is no then you are not one of the faithful and not a true christian

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Mon 05/12/08 11:24 AM
Edited by wouldee on Mon 05/12/08 11:29 AM


there are many benefits in Christ.

One is not being held hostage by covetousness


if no one would be held hostage by convetousness then every christian would retain the life style of a monk or priest just enough to have the minimum food water and shelter ..no summer homes no luxury cars ..and here's a shocker...only one television or cell phone..is that need or greed ..those that preach against convertousness amazingly are always well fed

covertousness is a part of the instinct for self preservation ..even squirrels have enough sense to horde nuts


Stoning unruly children was one of the things that was an Egyptian dysfunction and this statute was given them (after they turned their hearts back towards the Egyptians subsequent to their deliverance from the same) as a reminder of the things left behind that were symptomatic of their oppresors' influence.


but shouldn't that apply to more than the lure for some to go back to eqypt because remember god also told believers to stone adulterers ..so stoning applied to any bad behavior that went against the laws set forth by god ..so again "wouldee" ..do you stone adulterers and unruly children? ..if the answer is no then you are not one of the faithful and not a true christian


To the first point.

and the assumption is what then? That things needful for the flesh are discounted altogether?

On the contrary, it is the spirit within man that is bankrupt, or all of the things evidenced in history would not continually be repeating themselves in colorful ways.

The assumption that the artifices and inventions of man have any credibility to please God is only the opposite of any true affirmation of God's provisions for his creation.

When making a monument to remember the LORD, the children were initially warned not to hew stones, and just stack them as they are found in their natural state. But they refused. They hewed stones to impress man, not God. They were not concerned with God's joy, they were concerned with their own reflection of the people around them and their habit of being so distracted.
I could go on ad infinitum, but reading the Holy Bible for oneself can show one the very same premise. It changes how it is read and interpreted, quite dramatically and offers a new beginning and insight into the full discourse. Piece by piece the entire puzzle unravels itself with itself. Hidden in plain view, filtered only by preconceived notions .

To the second point.

Chirstians are not lost children under the thumb of archaic laws, statutes and ordinances given a family with blind hearts, a rebellious nature, an obstinate covetousness of the habits and lifestyle of other families not led by the LORD. The whole of the theme is that of all the families in the earth at the time, only the children of Abraham were known to the LORD, and only the LORD was their guiding light. It was the promise to Abraham and the relationship he had with the LORD that was honored and respected and never neglected by the LORD. It is a matter of trust and it does not suppose that an end to life exists with the death of the mortal flesh.

So, let's not confuse Christianity with the incompleteness of Judaic Law.

Faithfulness is not incumbent on the personal constraints nor on the lack of personal restraints of a people long since given a clear and present revelation of God.

That God partook of flesh once for all, displays the lack in man, not the foolishness of God.

To lead the way out of error is one thing.

Setting the example is quite another.

It is not the shortcoming of God that man is blinded by the distractions in man's own heart.

Rather, it is the shortcoming of man that supposes human limitations on God.

That man has corrupted himself with distractions is but evident to all.

That man cannot see that for what it is, does not define God as less willing to strive with man continuously.

God does see it for what it is and each and every subsequent generation is given ample access to that which has already been provided by God to man.

Had Isra-el mastered overcoming the delusion they were mistakenly following after, things could be different today.

That they didn't, it was given (through their failure) to all men to master through one of their own. "He came to his own and his own received him not."

That few men even recognize the fullness of the gift of God in Jesus Christ does not change the truth given to man by God.

It speaks to the choices of man, and the fluid choices given man by God.

Faithful and true Christians are not judged by men, but by God.

Christians are not given to sit in judgement of man , either.

We are fully aware that God is the judge of all men.

We are given to judge ourselves only in the fellowship we haVE WITH ONE ANOTHER WITH RESPECT TO BEING IN ONE ACCORD.

That one accord is the Judgement of God, by the Holy Spirit. It is the judgement and will of the Holy Spirit that is our one accord and we follow his lead only in truth.

This is the meaning of, "my people know my voice and another they will not follow."

Be we sheep, we are sheperded.

Be we men following after God's righteousness and not our own, is why the metaphor paints that picture .

:heart: