Topic: I hate Michigan
FaithfulOne78's photo
Sat 06/28/08 03:47 AM
Okay for all you Michigan haters....There is going to be a party for Michigan JSHers..and surrounding peeps as well on


July 13th....if you would like to come your more than welcome maybe you will meet some peeps who will show you that MI might not be AS BAD as you think!:wink: It's being hosted by Tanyaann and I....if you go to my profile..there is a link in there to the party info. Any questions shoot me an email!

Take care everyone!:heart:

flame1cutie's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:15 AM

Michigan sucks???
Hummm...
Well... I'll add my 2 cents and ask,"What part of Michigan sucks to you?"

As for this reader/writer, I think Michigan is a beautiful state. Rolling hills... wonderful National forest and parks...lots of inland lakes... not to mention the really nice beaches along the Great Lakes shoreline.

HOWEVER...
After growing up in this state, then moving out of state in the early 80's because the economy went into the tank.(I went to Texas), and returning about 5 years ago. It is my experience that the people of Michigan are not nearly as open minded and friendly as the people in the southern US. Most people in Michigan tend to be just downright "New York City" rude, condesending, and dismissive of others.
Detroit city is, as one CNN news reporter recently put it,"worse than downtown Baghdad" and has been put on the 2008 list of THE WORST place in the US to live. Flint was a close 2nd to St.Louis, but ended up the 3rd worst.
After living in a large southern city for 20 years, I see the potential that Detroit has as it's in a wonderful location.
But locations do not make great places to live. Buildings don't make a great city. The PEOPLE make a city great!
So what doesn't that say about the city of Detroit and Flint?

I was just at a Tigers game on Father's Day. All in all,I felt safe downtown. But I have say that I was not comfortable with the way I was treated by one of the venders who appeared to be nothing less than racist! The idiot didn't want to serve me and my son two freakin hotdogs...I assume because we were "white"...said they weren't ready...I could clearly see 15-20 behind the glass on the grill in front of me that were indeed done and sizzling away... walked away and watched as "one of the brothers" walked up and purchased 4 hotdogs and two soft drinks. The letter to the Detroit Tigers Organization is in the works.
Note:[ Want to get attention? Put it writing in a formal business letter! Phone calls get dismissed and ignored. But if you put it on paper and address it to the 'HGIC' head guy in charge... it gets attention! HaHa!]


You can't blame the government as WE THE PEOPLE are the government. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. If you don't like the freakin' government... CHANGE IT!
We all understand that BIG MONEY runs this country. Mark my words on this page. The US is about to go through some real changes and it won't be all pretty. People are tired of getting screwed by credit card companies, by mortgage lenders, and by their "big business" employers. They are tired of white collar crime and they have just about had enough of the thugs on the streets. I doubt I'll be around to see it all changes as it's not going to happen overnight.

Maybe we should treat Michigan like a dirty fish bowl... Just dump it all out and start fresh.


So in my opinion,

Michigan doesn't really suck.

The PEOPLE of Michigan suck!


<§ix§tring§ jumps off the soap box>


flowers

Army_Strong's photo
Sat 06/28/08 02:34 PM

Michigan sucks???
Hummm...
Well... I'll add my 2 cents and ask,"What part of Michigan sucks to you?"

As for this reader/writer, I think Michigan is a beautiful state. Rolling hills... wonderful National forest and parks...lots of inland lakes... not to mention the really nice beaches along the Great Lakes shoreline.

HOWEVER...
After growing up in this state, then moving out of state in the early 80's because the economy went into the tank.(I went to Texas), and returning about 5 years ago. It is my experience that the people of Michigan are not nearly as open minded and friendly as the people in the southern US. Most people in Michigan tend to be just downright "New York City" rude, condesending, and dismissive of others.
Detroit city is, as one CNN news reporter recently put it,"worse than downtown Baghdad" and has been put on the 2008 list of THE WORST place in the US to live. Flint was a close 2nd to St.Louis, but ended up the 3rd worst.
After living in a large southern city for 20 years, I see the potential that Detroit has as it's in a wonderful location.
But locations do not make great places to live. Buildings don't make a great city. The PEOPLE make a city great!
So what doesn't that say about the city of Detroit and Flint?

I was just at a Tigers game on Father's Day. All in all,I felt safe downtown. But I have say that I was not comfortable with the way I was treated by one of the venders who appeared to be nothing less than racist! The idiot didn't want to serve me and my son two freakin hotdogs...I assume because we were "white"...said they weren't ready...I could clearly see 15-20 behind the glass on the grill in front of me that were indeed done and sizzling away... walked away and watched as "one of the brothers" walked up and purchased 4 hotdogs and two soft drinks. The letter to the Detroit Tigers Organization is in the works.
Note:[ Want to get attention? Put it writing in a formal business letter! Phone calls get dismissed and ignored. But if you put it on paper and address it to the 'HGIC' head guy in charge... it gets attention! HaHa!]


You can't blame the government as WE THE PEOPLE are the government. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. If you don't like the freakin' government... CHANGE IT!
We all understand that BIG MONEY runs this country. Mark my words on this page. The US is about to go through some real changes and it won't be all pretty. People are tired of getting screwed by credit card companies, by mortgage lenders, and by their "big business" employers. They are tired of white collar crime and they have just about had enough of the thugs on the streets. I doubt I'll be around to see it all changes as it's not going to happen overnight.

Maybe we should treat Michigan like a dirty fish bowl... Just dump it all out and start fresh.


So in my opinion,

Michigan doesn't really suck.

The PEOPLE of Michigan suck!


<§ix§tring§ jumps off the soap box>




Very very true. Although, it's easy to not feel safe walking around certain areas but I suppose it's like that all over

ericriddle64's photo
Mon 06/30/08 01:21 PM

yep, melting season, still 41 degrees at this hour, steelhead have stopped running..... all bad, but morrels are out, and i'm ridin my scoot to tampa.


Catfish are just starting. You'll miss out on some awesome night fishing.

firebird00001's photo
Thu 07/17/08 09:52 AM
I lived in Michigan for 38 years, I went and bought me a house in Arkansas and moved here a month ago.

FaithfulOne78's photo
Thu 07/17/08 09:55 AM
What part of MI did ya live in?drinker

OneOfAKind4U's photo
Tue 07/22/08 08:02 AM
michigan is great the ladys are beatiful and lakes and all the water to play in camping,the great north theres alot to do hear:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: drinks drinks drinks think smitten waving waving waving waving

justirish's photo
Sun 07/27/08 04:52 PM
I have to agree with TxSixStringS when he said that people in the south are more open minded and nicer.

I am from the south, super friendly and I talk to everyone. Its just how I was raised. Never to judge, just listen.

Moving here was a huge adjustment. People are not as friendly, I have met some very rude and nasty people that I have had to cut out of my life, and people (just the ones I have run into while here, not judging the whole state) just are not quite as open about things or chatter friendly like they are in the south.

When I go in to a store or a resteraunt and start talking to the person they look at me like I got issues. I am just trying to be friendly.

In the south, we do that every place we go.

I tell you, a smile, a hello how are you will go a long way.

And the weather was a huge adjustment for me as well...but thats a whole other post!
LOL

Sir_SnuggleMaster's photo
Tue 08/05/08 09:18 PM
Same here, I love this state and wouldnt want to live anywhere else. As one state cop said in a joke (it was at a state police convention) "I love this state, we dont have to worry about earthquakes/hurricanes/tornadoes and all that. Only natural disaster we have to worry about every year is the Detroit Lions!".
I also love the weather and besides the fact Being a uncle to two nieces and a nephew want to be in thier lives as much as can.
Economy isnt just goverment as much as also corporate greed!
If I won the lotto ide maybee vacation away a little more but will stay for life!
There also is a lot of freindly people and some jerks but you get anywhere you go.

Just my two cents and then some.

lonlytrucker's photo
Tue 09/02/08 05:45 AM
Seems like everyone who complains about Michigan are down state trolls.Why is that???:banana:

flame1cutie's photo
Tue 09/02/08 06:09 AM
Welcome loneytrucker, post and enjoy, have some fun meeting the people and making friends. Hey Michigan isn't so bad, been here all my life.bigsmile flowerforyou

Army_Strong's photo
Tue 09/02/08 07:13 AM

Seems like everyone who complains about Michigan are down state trolls.Why is that???:banana:


Cause the beauty of this state lies with the U.P. Eh?

lonlytrucker's photo
Tue 09/02/08 12:33 PM


Seems like everyone who complains about Michigan are down state trolls.Why is that???:banana:


Cause the beauty of this state lies with the U.P. Eh?


It sure does ubetcha!

no photo
Sat 09/06/08 06:20 AM
Moved here 5 yrs ago, I like it here.

Sir_SnuggleMaster's photo
Thu 09/11/08 12:37 PM
Way cooool you like it here!
Since this state has its natural beauty and some very nice and friendly folk. Just have to know where to look.
Most that hate it would in my opinion hate it everywhere else.
True we have the worst unemployment but that's due to in part corporate greeed, corrupted government (listening to the lobbyists and their big bucks) and people who take advantage of the system and services. Clean that up and well become one of the best in the nation. Just start out small and things will change.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:37 PM
I have only lived in Michigan and Tennessee....

For sheer beauty...it's a very close race. As far as friendly people....well..that's pretty close too. At least around here I don't get called a Yankee on a daily basis. lol

I do love living here. Regardless of how bad things are right now...I have faith that things will get better.

Not to mention....where else can you live that, no matter where in the state you live, you are only a couple of hours drive away from completely different scenery?

Sir_SnuggleMaster's photo
Wed 09/17/08 09:31 PM
Very True! Especially since got the seasonal changes with fall and winter. I could never live somewhere else and not miss the beauty throughout the seasons. Plus also my town of Lowell and the fundraiser for breast and any cancer awareness thew just happened I couldn't be more proud of the schools I graduated from and the town.

Jetterama's photo
Fri 09/19/08 02:19 PM

Michigan sucks???
Hummm...
Well... I'll add my 2 cents and ask,"What part of Michigan sucks to you?"

As for this reader/writer, I think Michigan is a beautiful state. Rolling hills... wonderful National forest and parks...lots of inland lakes... not to mention the really nice beaches along the Great Lakes shoreline.

HOWEVER...
After growing up in this state, then moving out of state in the early 80's because the economy went into the tank.(I went to Texas), and returning about 5 years ago. It is my experience that the people of Michigan are not nearly as open minded and friendly as the people in the southern US. Most people in Michigan tend to be just downright "New York City" rude, condesending, and dismissive of others.
Detroit city is, as one CNN news reporter recently put it,"worse than downtown Baghdad" and has been put on the 2008 list of THE WORST place in the US to live. Flint was a close 2nd to St.Louis, but ended up the 3rd worst.
After living in a large southern city for 20 years, I see the potential that Detroit has as it's in a wonderful location.
But locations do not make great places to live. Buildings don't make a great city. The PEOPLE make a city great!
So what doesn't that say about the city of Detroit and Flint?

I was just at a Tigers game on Father's Day. All in all,I felt safe downtown. But I have say that I was not comfortable with the way I was treated by one of the venders who appeared to be nothing less than racist! The idiot didn't want to serve me and my son two freakin hotdogs...I assume because we were "white"...said they weren't ready...I could clearly see 15-20 behind the glass on the grill in front of me that were indeed done and sizzling away... walked away and watched as "one of the brothers" walked up and purchased 4 hotdogs and two soft drinks. The letter to the Detroit Tigers Organization is in the works.
Note:[ Want to get attention? Put it writing in a formal business letter! Phone calls get dismissed and ignored. But if you put it on paper and address it to the 'HGIC' head guy in charge... it gets attention! HaHa!]


You can't blame the government as WE THE PEOPLE are the government. If you don't vote, you have no right to complain. If you don't like the freakin' government... CHANGE IT!
We all understand that BIG MONEY runs this country. Mark my words on this page. The US is about to go through some real changes and it won't be all pretty. People are tired of getting screwed by credit card companies, by mortgage lenders, and by their "big business" employers. They are tired of white collar crime and they have just about had enough of the thugs on the streets. I doubt I'll be around to see it all changes as it's not going to happen overnight.

Maybe we should treat Michigan like a dirty fish bowl... Just dump it all out and start fresh.


So in my opinion,

Michigan doesn't really suck.

The PEOPLE of Michigan suck!


<§ix§tring§ jumps off the soap box>




I say bravo to this. Although there are always exceptions to the ultimate question here (is it Michigan or the people?), but it is definitely dependent on the perspective. I have lived out of the US through the military for close to 4 years, so I am not rambling unsubstantiated. I would say a lot of things are a matter of perspective.

Every place has its good and bad. But saying that Detroit is like downtown Bagdad... I know this is just an expression, but I would say from being there and in areas just as bad that this expression is over the top. Like we need to some contest to see who has had life the worst. There is always someone with a bigger fish story.

I have found that it is becoming human nature for people to complain. Heck, listen to me, I am blogging in response. People complain about people complaining to much. Life isn't that bad, Detroit is certainly no cake walk, this I am sure of, but at least there is opportunity, the glass isn't always have empty. People make life what it is, just like this guy said, Michigan doesn't suck, its the people. I don't really have anything to revolutionary to say, I guess that is my little out take on this topic.

flame1cutie's photo
Fri 09/19/08 04:22 PM
waving Welcome, post and have fun meeting the people and making some friends. The people here on the site are nice people you will like them. As for MI I have lived here all my life and it's really not so bad. Your going to find bad people everywhere you go.flowerforyou flowerforyou

Tfantasy's photo
Mon 09/22/08 10:54 PM
Edited by Tfantasy on Mon 09/22/08 10:55 PM
:tongue: I have to say that most big cities you go to are very unfriendly, no matter what state you live in. I live in a small town and I love it!! People are so nice and friendly. I think that's where a lot of the differences are. Small town people know exactly what I mean!!