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Topic: Evangilism
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Thu 05/08/08 10:55 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/08/08 10:55 AM

I am working on it.

When I aam finished, then everyone will enjoy not being attacked and insulted.

The other faiths may even feel safe to post.

Right now, they stay away.



You are not really that effective.

I guess you fancy yourself on some sort of mission, but you don't realize that you only make things worse.

All you will do is set people against you personally and Christianity in general.

But for some reason you can't see this. noway

JB


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Thu 05/08/08 11:16 AM
Edited by wouldee on Thu 05/08/08 11:17 AM


I am working on it.

When I aam finished, then everyone will enjoy not being attacked and insulted.

The other faiths may even feel safe to post.

Right now, they stay away.



You are not really that effective.

I guess you fancy yourself on some sort of mission, but you don't realize that you only make things worse.

All you will do is set people against you personally and Christianity in general.

But for some reason you can't see this. noway

JB





none that aren't already persuaded of the very thing you say will come to the same conclusion you draw from what I am saying.

Which is divorced from the whole point of what I have said and do say.

and that is, that the abuses and derogatory nature of hatred and villification of Christianity in these threads will remain in these threads without being reminded of the hate and institutionalized bigotry and hypocrisy that it is.

And all that is encompassed in that misuse of the priveleges given to post in these threads.

Read the rules and find a more pleasant way to express your views without villifying Christianity.

In the end, all will have the liberty to express their views in equality.

Withou hatred and hidden agendas meant to inflame and incite confusion and contempt for mutual respect and dignity.

If this were about me, I would turn this site off and leave it and wipe the dust of its filth from my feet.

Fortunately for the good of all, that is not the case.



Whether or not you approve of me, you must be respectful and dignified and blameless in your sincerity to enjoy the joy of sharing your heart.

Is there any here in these threads that you believe does not hope for the same for themselves?

huh

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Thu 05/08/08 11:47 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 05/08/08 11:48 AM


In Love :heart:

and by the Eternal Incomparable Power drinker

of His Holy Sacred Name Jesus..... :heart: flowerforyou :heart:



My Brethren ...




Ephesians 5..... verses 1- 20


and


Ephesians 6 ... verses 10 - 18




:heart: In Jesus' Blessed Holy Name !!! :heart:







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Thu 05/08/08 11:52 AM
Then I will have to find a way to separate true Christians from the False Christians that make up the majority of the churches in this society.

I wish I knew how to do that. Unfortunately the church is 85% filled with false Christians who practice Churchianity. (That is an estimate.)

Churchianity is only part of the problem. There is "evil" in the Church. This is what I am addressing. If this is not you, then I am not addressing you.

If you cannot see the "evil" in your own "religion" or church you might be supporting and defending that very evil you seek to eliminate.

True Christians who are filled with love are not my problem.

False Christians, false doctrine, agendas and "evil" under the cover of religion is what I am addressing.

This "evil" and these false teachers and fake Christians has infiltrated the Church. Sometimes it is all people can see.

As I said before, true Christians are few.

True Christians live their lives with compassion and love.

They don't even have to be in a church.

JB


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Thu 05/08/08 12:02 PM
True, Jeannie.

The churchianity is the womb in many ways.

Either birth or breach occurs.

That is the conundrum seen about Christianity.

But none are refused access or fellowship.
Christianity is open to all and all are welcome in every church where even the unregenrate and false hopes are present.

All learn and grow and seek peace together.

How can it be any other way?

True, some seek to close their doors to peple that do not see eye to eye with the membership of certain congregations, but all is meant to work together for good.

It is an endless process.

Much like the cycle of life of being born and living and dying in the flesh.

Generations come, and geNERATIONS GO
bUT NOT WITH THE DEFINITIVE LINES OF THIS OR THAT.

GENERATIONS ARE A CONTINUUMoops caplock key.

Every day people come and go and seek God.

Many seek God found in Jesus.

That you learn this at all is beneficial.

It is a good thing indeed to have light to see the dust in the room.

It helps one keep the room clean.

bigsmile

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Thu 05/08/08 12:12 PM
The churchianity is the womb in many ways.

Either birth or breach occurs.

That is the conundrum seen about Christianity.



I guess it is kind of like marriage.

You are either in love or you hate each other.

laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Thu 05/08/08 10:01 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 05/08/08 10:11 PM


Christianity is

Relationship with God...


Christianity is a Lifestyle....

A Way of Life.




MorningSong,

Thank you so much for your replies.

Yes I can now see the difference between Churchianity and real Christianity.

I don't see real Christianity very often.

No you did not actually say those things that I pointed out. It simply appeared to be what you were doing. (Divorcing the Church and taking Christ and the Bible out of it.)

That was my impression because I did not understand.

I have met a few people that lived true Christianity and who were a good (shining) examples for their faith. These people truly impressed me, and if I had known more of them, I would probably have joined their church.

They are in the minority.

You are one of them.

:heart: :heart: :heart: (((((MorningSong))))))):heart: :heart:







((((((((((:heart::heart:Jeanniebean:heart::heart: ))))))))))))))

And Jeannie....Wouldee and Spider are " one of them "too....:heart:..... they are just defending against any errors spoken..unknowingly by others ...who don't know the Christian Faith that well.

And Jeannie....the reason they defend?

They don't want the world to believe any more errors being spoken by you and others, of the faith..cause some of the stuff spoken here is simpy not true.

The world has already heard enough of error, that comes with churchianity... they need to hear truth now that comes wit true christianity......and not hear more error.

Do You Now See what Wouldee and Spider are trying to do here now?
They are simply, Defending the Truth of the Faith!

Cause They feel IF they say nothing, when an error is spoken here.... ..then the world will think the error spoken is true....IF they don't say anythng!!

Following me here ,Jeannie??

This is the ONLY reason Woulde and Spider fight so hard to defend the Faith....they are NOT doing it for themselves.....but to protect others from hearing any more errors about christianity..... cause enough error has been spoken against true christianity, already.

Jeannie....Allow them to speak truth... the world needs to hear the truth of God's Word....and you and others need to hear,too, Jeannie.....and NOT just more error.

I pray Jeannie, you will now see..that Wouldee and Spider's heart..is in the right place here......cause they love and care for people here too.......and want the world so much...to hear the truth..and not to hear anymore errors about the Christian faith.sad :heart: sad
That's ALL they are trying to do.sad

Jeannie.... I am Praying there Will be Peace and Understanding Now.....Among All on this Forum....and in the Hearts of All This Day...Amen:heart::heart::heart:



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Thu 05/08/08 10:07 PM



Christianity is

Relationship with God...


Christianity is a Lifestyle....

A Way of Life.




MorningSong,

Thank you so much for your replies.

Yes I can now see the difference between Churchianity and real Christianity.

I don't see real Christianity very often.

No you did not actually say those things that I pointed out. It simply appeared to be what you were doing. (Divorcing the Church and taking Christ and the Bible out of it.)

That was my impression because I did not understand.

I have met a few people that lived true Christianity and who were a good (shining) examples for their faith. These people truly impressed me, and if I had known more of them, I would probably have joined their church.

They are in the minority.

You are one of them.

:heart: :heart: :heart: (((((MorningSong))))))):heart: :heart:







((((((((((:heart:Jeaniebean:heart:))))))))))))))

And Jeannie....Wouldee and Spider are " one of them "too....:heart:..... they are just defending against any errors spoken..unknowingly by others ...who don't know the Christian Faith that well.

And Jeanie....the reason they defend?

They don't want the world to believe this error being spoken by you and others, of the faith..cause it is not true...
The world has already heard enough of error, that comes with churchianity... they need to hear truth now..not more error.

Do you See what Wouldee and Spider are trying to do now?
They are simply, defending the truth of the faith.

Cause They feel IF they say nothing, when an error is spoken here.... ..that the world will think the error spoken is true..IF they don't say anythng!!

Following me here ,Jeannie??

This is the ONLY reason Woulde and Spider fight so hard to defind the faith....they are NOT doing it for themselves.....but to protect others from hearing any more errors about christianity..... casue enough eror has been shared agaisnt true christianity, already.

Jeannie....Allow them to speak truth... they world needs to hear the truth of God's Word....and yuo and others too, Jeannie.....and NOT more error.

I pray Jeannie, you will now see..that Wouldee and Spider's heart..is in the right place here......cause they love people here.......and want the world so much..to hear the truth..and not to hear anymore errors about the Chrsitian faith.sad :heart: sad

Jeannie.... I am Praying there Will be Peace and Understanding Now.....Among All on this Forum....and in the Hearts of All This Day...Amen:heart::heart::heart:






This is silly. If "the one true religion" given to us by "God" is so weak that is can be knocked over by anyone that speaks against it, it cannot be from God.


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Thu 05/08/08 10:12 PM



Christianity is

Relationship with God...


Christianity is a Lifestyle....

A Way of Life.




MorningSong,

Thank you so much for your replies.

Yes I can now see the difference between Churchianity and real Christianity.

I don't see real Christianity very often.

No you did not actually say those things that I pointed out. It simply appeared to be what you were doing. (Divorcing the Church and taking Christ and the Bible out of it.)

That was my impression because I did not understand.

I have met a few people that lived true Christianity and who were a good (shining) examples for their faith. These people truly impressed me, and if I had known more of them, I would probably have joined their church.

They are in the minority.

You are one of them.

:heart: :heart: :heart: (((((MorningSong))))))):heart: :heart:







((((((((((:heart:Jeaniebean:heart:))))))))))))))

And Jeannie....Wouldee and Spider are " one of them "too....:heart:..... they are just defending against any errors spoken..unknowingly by others ...who don't know the Christian Faith that well.

And Jeanie....the reason they defend?

They don't want the world to believe this error being spoken by you and others, of the faith..cause it is not true...
The world has already heard enough of error, that comes with churchianity... they need to hear truth now..not more error.

Do you See what Wouldee and Spider are trying to do now?
They are simply, defending the truth of the faith.

Cause They feel IF they say nothing, when an error is spoken here.... ..that the world will think the error spoken is true..IF they don't say anythng!!

Following me here ,Jeannie??

This is the ONLY reason Woulde and Spider fight so hard to defind the faith....they are NOT doing it for themselves.....but to protect others from hearing any more errors about christianity..... casue enough eror has been shared agaisnt true christianity, already.

Jeannie....Allow them to speak truth... they world needs to hear the truth of God's Word....and yuo and others too, Jeannie.....and NOT more error.

I pray Jeannie, you will now see..that Wouldee and Spider's heart..is in the right place here......cause they love people here.......and want the world so much..to hear the truth..and not to hear anymore errors about the Chrsitian faith.sad :heart: sad

Jeannie.... I am Praying there Will be Peace and Understanding Now.....Among All on this Forum....and in the Hearts of All This Day...Amen:heart::heart::heart:



I do not want to discus Christianity or Churchianity with anyone on this forum. I know they believe they are defending the truth, but I believe it is a lie.

So I will leave them alone and I will not speak of Christianity with anyone or bring up the subject, or argue the subject with any one on this club.

I will speak only of my own beliefs and I will state what I do or do not believe if someone is curious or if they ask me a direct question I will answer it.

I am willing to step around them if they will step around me. But if they want to debate I will not debate with them.

We will see how that works for them and for you and for all the other Christians.

JB

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Thu 05/08/08 10:18 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 05/08/08 10:20 PM
Rabbit.. do you think Satan actually WANTS you to hear the Truth of God's Word?

NO!!!

Rabbit....THAT'S why the devil fights so hard, to blind the eyes and ears of the people to the truth of God's Word.......and to confuse God's Word..cause he knows his time is short.

The devil sits in churches even, and causes divisions.
The devil fights God ....and one way he fights, is to bring deception into the church, so people will turn away.

But God already won the Victory......thru what Jesus did on that cross.
The devil just doesn't know it yet.
Poor Devil.

Following me here?

DON'T fall for the devil's lies, Rabbit.

Ask God to open your eyes and ears..and listen, Rabbit
And God Will give You Understanding .

Love you guy.

Going offline ....Be Blessed now.flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 05/08/08 10:21 PM




Christianity is

Relationship with God...


Christianity is a Lifestyle....

A Way of Life.




MorningSong,

Thank you so much for your replies.

Yes I can now see the difference between Churchianity and real Christianity.

I don't see real Christianity very often.

No you did not actually say those things that I pointed out. It simply appeared to be what you were doing. (Divorcing the Church and taking Christ and the Bible out of it.)

That was my impression because I did not understand.

I have met a few people that lived true Christianity and who were a good (shining) examples for their faith. These people truly impressed me, and if I had known more of them, I would probably have joined their church.

They are in the minority.

You are one of them.

:heart: :heart: :heart: (((((MorningSong))))))):heart: :heart:







((((((((((:heart:Jeaniebean:heart:))))))))))))))

And Jeannie....Wouldee and Spider are " one of them "too....:heart:..... they are just defending against any errors spoken..unknowingly by others ...who don't know the Christian Faith that well.

And Jeanie....the reason they defend?

They don't want the world to believe this error being spoken by you and others, of the faith..cause it is not true...
The world has already heard enough of error, that comes with churchianity... they need to hear truth now..not more error.

Do you See what Wouldee and Spider are trying to do now?
They are simply, defending the truth of the faith.

Cause They feel IF they say nothing, when an error is spoken here.... ..that the world will think the error spoken is true..IF they don't say anythng!!

Following me here ,Jeannie??

This is the ONLY reason Woulde and Spider fight so hard to defind the faith....they are NOT doing it for themselves.....but to protect others from hearing any more errors about christianity..... casue enough eror has been shared agaisnt true christianity, already.

Jeannie....Allow them to speak truth... they world needs to hear the truth of God's Word....and yuo and others too, Jeannie.....and NOT more error.

I pray Jeannie, you will now see..that Wouldee and Spider's heart..is in the right place here......cause they love people here.......and want the world so much..to hear the truth..and not to hear anymore errors about the Chrsitian faith.sad :heart: sad

Jeannie.... I am Praying there Will be Peace and Understanding Now.....Among All on this Forum....and in the Hearts of All This Day...Amen:heart::heart::heart:



I do not want to discus Christianity or Churchianity with anyone on this forum. I know they believe they are defending the truth, but I believe it is a lie.

So I will leave them alone and I will not speak of Christianity with anyone or bring up the subject, or argue the subject with any one on this club.

I will speak only of my own beliefs and I will state what I do or do not believe if someone is curious or if they ask me a direct question I will answer it.

I am willing to step around them if they will step around me. But if they want to debate I will not debate with them.

We will see how that works for them and for you and for all the other Christians.

JB


Oh great thats all we need. More Christians getting to say what ever they want undisturbed while we take a beating. We are the ones that always play nice in the first place. You giving in even more to these temper tantrums may not be a good thing.
However. We are always the ones that make the peace so I commend you for that. I think it is our number one attribute.

peace in truth

yzrabbit1's photo
Thu 05/08/08 10:24 PM

Rabbit.. do you think Satan actually WANTS you to hear the Truth of God's Word?

NO!!!

Rabbit....THAT'S why the devil fights so hard, to blind the eyes and ears of the people to the truth of God's Word.......and to confuse God's Word..cause he knows his time is short.

The devil sits in churches even, and causes divisions.
The devil fights God ....and one way he fights, is to bring deception into the church, so people will turn away.

But God already won the Victory......thru what Jesus did on that cross.
The devil just doesn't know it yet.
Poor Devil.

Following me here?

DON'T fall for the devil's lies, Rabbit.

Ask God to open your eyes and ears..and listen, Rabbit
And God Will give You Understanding .

Love you guy.

Going offline ....Be Blessed now.flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou


I happen to know that the "devil" does not want us to believe lies. Do you know why? Because he does not exist. He is on an island somewhere with Santa and the easter bunny. Don't worry, I will make sure you never have to deal with any of them.

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Thu 05/08/08 10:30 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/08/08 10:31 PM

Oh great thats all we need. More Christians getting to say what ever they want undisturbed while we take a beating. We are the ones that always play nice in the first place. You giving in even more to these temper tantrums may not be a good thing.
However. We are always the ones that make the peace so I commend you for that. I think it is our number one attribute.

peace in truth


laugh laugh laugh laugh

I don't want to be stepping on fairies or raining on other people's parades therefore and I am calling a truce.

I don't know if they will keep the truce. Sometimes my very existence seems to annoy them.

Oh well. :wink:


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Thu 05/08/08 11:15 PM
we will all survive being more civil.

You know I have my hands full being in the whirlwind of all that calls itself ............

damned if I do and damned if I don't:wink:

but you know what I was saying.

we all need what we need, and we need to be real

we don't need to hate on each other, with any excuse.

nope. not good.

I want to be so done with making this point that was so resisted

If backlashes from Christians cross the line, e- mail me with it

I will do what I can.

most don't even chat with me directly as it is.laugh

you owe me, bigtimebigsmile

if the Christians here backlash, I owe you.smokin

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Fri 05/09/08 03:43 AM



Happy friday everyone.

flowerforyou :heart:

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