They are not the same. the sus in JC means PIG. would you call your savior a pig?

Think about this if you were satan who hates Yahshua which literally means Yahweh is Salvation. If you could get them to be so adament about that name when everytime they say it they are refering to him as a pig would that not be some pretty good deception on the whole world? JC is regarded highly throughout the whole worlds religion. What is the man of sin suppose to do to save the world and bring peace? If they believe this is who he is then they will believe he is the messiah and worship him and bring peace a false peace.No one ever thinks about how is it going to happen that Yahshua said that if it were possible even the very elect would be decieved. That takes alot. Who could possibly have that much power.Then why would the whole world go against Yahshua when he does come because this person tells them to? Think about it. Reason the scriptures.

I guess none of that makes any sense to me. I am not familiar with your religion.

oh i think you understand more than most. mainly you can see more clearly.

What i am saying if you were satan and you could get most all the worlds religion to come together over a false name bringing peace. Would this not be an excellent way to decieve the world?

Yes it certainly would.

it is absolutely amazing. those who claim who thier savior is will not defend him.You claim you want to learn. Prove to me anything I have told or showed you is not true? If you can not then why?
Are you just satisfied with just believe oh i have Jc in my heart I am saved?
That a lie. Prove me wrong.

I do not believe those who claim to know the scriptures know nothing at all.
i have no training in religion at all. But I will Boast the Spirit of Truth is within me. Why. because as i answer any of you I am told what to write.
When I talk to your preachers they have no choice but to be a yes man to me. But they do not change. They want to keep thier jobs.


If you are searching for Yahweh and want to serve him and learn and have that same spirit.

then do not be afraid of me. I am a child of yahweh. I have seen the Heavens on fire. I have with proof told people what was going on in Iraq and that we were lying. 15 minutes later what I said i saw they saw as a Special news breakend. We are killing innocent citizens in Iraq and blaming it on suicide bombers. I saw it.

Ask questions if you love your creater and i will answer honestyly. The spirit will show me if i do not already know the answer.

I know many of you have seen things that i have explained that you have never heard anyone explain it because they always say it is a mystery. Why can I know?

Listen learn, be open, prove to yourself honestly.And the scriptures and prophecies I would bet will just start jumping out at you without a 2nd thought.

I am not here to bash even though it may seem like that. I am here to make you question what you have always been told. Thats the problem being told with twisted scriptures.

I hope whoever will liste and Yahweh Will as Solomon Give You Great Knowledge..miles

Miles...... you have Jesus Christ mixed up with the coming Anti-Christ.

Yes...there is a coming Anti-Christ....who will deceive many ...and may even be in the world already......but Jesus Christ is STILL Lord and Saviour..and those who know him, KNOW Jesus is Lord.
The scriptures made this very clear.

Jesus said, "My Sheep hear my voice, and the voice of a stranger they will not follow."

Sorry to have to say this,Miles , but I hear a stranger's voice in you....
you have been badly deceived somewhere, with some weird teaching...and I pray this spirit of deception be broken off you, in the Mighty Name of Jesus... Amen.

Go read the book of Isaiah again... read the Gospel of John...read Romans... read the whole bible again.

Believing and praying this spirit of deception is broken off you........

Miles....Jesus Christ Is Lord!!!

No I don't Morning Song He is The Anti-Christ the World will Love He has Allready convinced the whole world that he is the Messiah. In Rev. 12 when he is thrown out of Heaven for good. He will claim this is who he is. NO ONE Fitts the Picture and Has Decieved The world For thousands of Years to Fight and Kill in HIs Name Than Satan Himself.Miles

Their religion required that they sacrifice their children to their "god". God's patience, while allowing those people murder their own babies is amazing. God gave them 400 years to stop that evil practice. Perhaps cooking your children alive isn't evil in your mind? Perhaps such people don't deserve to be punished?

So I've been told.

But If sacrificing their children to their God is wrong, then why do Christians still feel it necessary?

If you remember right, the Christian religion is all about their own God sacrificing his own son on the cross.

So if you are saying that sacrificing your children to a god is wrong, why did your own God send his son to be sacrifices, his own son, and to what God or evil force was this sacrifice made??

JB

I would like to know the reason a blood sacrifice is made to a god.

I would like to know why Christianity adopted this blood sacrifice into their dogma in the story of Jesus being crucified.

Both sacrifices were for the sins of the people. Both are blood cults and the gods they worship who demand these sacrifices are vampires and Blood Lords of the underworld. Reptiles who eat human flesh and drink human blood. Creatures of the darkness.

JB

que eerie vampire music

Thanks for the music.

But I really would like a logical explanation.

And no, I don't want to hear that same old crap that "Jesus died for my sins" That is not logic. That is meaningless.

I want to know why people believe that a blood sacrifice is necessary and why they think it pays for sins.

Jesus wasn't sacrificed, he made a sacrifice.

God's law requires that the guilty be punished. God's law allows that another may take the guiltys place. For one person to take the sins of another, that person would have to be without sin. Since no human could live without sin, Jesus lived and died under the laws he created so that all sins could be forgiven.

As for the blood sacrifices in the Old Testament, they were done in rememberance of the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross. Jesus is called "The Lamb of God" and the sin sacrifice was a lamb. It was Jesus who talked to Abraham, so while Abraham's decendants waited for God to supply a sacrifice, they did not realize that God was the sacrifice.

And the problem you have is that you really don't know what you are talking about. The Canaanites didn't believe in sacrifices for sin, they believed that sacrificing their children to Ba'al would bring them MONEY. Not salvation. They were seeking temporal rewards, not eternal rewards.

spidercomb

Shalom.. Where is it that it says Yahshua created any laws himself? Blessings..Miles

In the Bible.

John 1.

Jesus called himself "I AM", which is the God who spoke to Moses from the burning bush and the same God who gave the Law to Moses.

I have asked you to take that free course on Christology, I really don't want to have this discussion with you again. Take the class on Christology, it's free and it might open your eyes.

He still was only the messenger. Sure he created as his father told him to. Yahshua himself said he could do nothing without the father..Blessings...Miles

That's a new twist. I don't know how many times I have heard Christian's tell me that God SENT his only son to be sacrificed.

That's not logical.



That is already taken care of within the Law of Cause and effect. What goes around comes around. You sow what you reap. The Law of Karma. The Law of Attraction.

Trust me, you pay for your own sins.





If that were true, why would the person being sacrificed have to be without sin? Where is the logic in that? It is just a notion stated, but there is no logic in it.

Also, you assume that no human can live without sin. Another assumption. You can't prove that.

If a god needs a blood sacrifice in order to forgive sins, then that god seems limited and flawed, for a true god is above the law.



So they are remembering something that has not happened yet?




That is only if you buy the story that Jesus is God, and not "God's son" after all. They cannot be the same personality. That is not logic.



True, I do not study the strange reasons for every religion who uses blood sacrifices. Whether it is for forgiveness for sins, or rain, or good crops, or money, or what ever... it was to appease their evil blood thirsty gods.

JB

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You have to remember something...you asked a question. I answered it from within Christian doctrine. If that answer isn't good enough for you, fine, but to say "If you believe..." That's just stupid. YOU ASKED ME TO EXPLAIN CHRISTIAN BELIEFS. HELLO? Do you see the problem?

You: "What do Christian's believe about X"
Me: "Well, Christians believe..."
You: "Well, to believe that, I would have to believe like a Christian"
Me: DUHHHHHHHHH! If you reject all of Christianity, then obviously you aren't going to accept our doctrine. Why ask me if you are just going to say "DERRR...you would only believe that if you were a Christian....DERRRRR" Talking to you people is a complete waste of time. COMPLETE. You guys don't even think about what you read, you simply try to come up with the best comebacks. Pathetic.



Can you clean up a spot on your carpet with a greasy rag? No. Will a soaking wet sponge absorb more water? No, it's already full. Will a full glass of water take more water? NO, IT'S ALREADY FULL. Only a pure soul could take the sins of the world and only Jesus has a pure soul.



Why not ask for clarification? The Jews would use action verbs to mean "Did" and "allowed". So "My father sent me to the prom" could mean "My father took me to the prom" or "My father ALLOWED me to go to the prom".



Gave can mean God "gave" or "allowed to be given" his only begotten Son. And then, while Jesus was on earth, he allowed himself to be arrested. He allowed himself to be tortured. And he allowed himself to be crucified. Jesus GAVE himself as a sacrifice and God allowed it. If Jesus had gone unwillingly, he would not have been a pure sacrifice. Jesus didn't want any of that to happen, but it was the only way.

I have absolutely no patience for foolishness. Either take this as a serious discussion of the beliefs of Christians or I won't be discussing this with you. Civility requires that serious subjects be treated with seriousness.