Topic: ABBA
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Mon 04/14/08 05:43 PM
"Mercy is giving a group 400 years to repent or die."

That's nice. huh


Well for a God who abandons his people and plays hide and seek all the time I’m not surprised that no one was repenting. It’s pretty hard to repent to a God who isn’t even there.

Why should anyone believe in a God who doesn’t even have the decency to reveal himself?

This is the God who never answers prayers, and who fails to keep his promise that he’ll reveal himself to those who ask him into his heart. He clearly doesn’t do these things so he doesn’t keep his promises.

Why should anyone believe he even exists at all? How can you repent to a nonexistent God?

If this God wants something from me all he has to do is ask. It’s that simple.

In the meantime all I hear is a bunch of unsubstantiated poppycock coming from humans who quite often disagree with each other on the details. MorningSong claims that the Bible is useless to a non believer because it will just appear as foolishness.

All God needs to do is make himself known. Until then, he’s playing hide and seek with himself because I’m not even aware that the game is going on. It just appears to me to be manmade mythology. I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe otherwise.

Surely my creator wouldn’t want me to believe in manmade mythology. That would be an insult to the real living God.

You people are trying to convince me to become idol worshipers and worship a myth. Shame on you! frown

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Mon 04/14/08 05:53 PM
I get a kick out of some people who talk about introducing me to Jesus like they know him personally ... in the flesh.

I ask them if he goes to their church ~~ and if they say yes, I ask them if he still wears those robes or does he dress in a business suit.

JB


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Mon 04/14/08 06:00 PM
But like I said, ~~ I have been born again in spirit.

I just don't think I realized it before.

I have been "saved."

I have been "forgiven."

I have seen the light.

"The Christ" is the light within the soul that says "I am."

It is our inner connection to All that is. It is within us.

It cannot be found in the outer world or in religion or in the Bible.

JB


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Mon 04/14/08 06:09 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 04/14/08 06:14 PM
Miles.. there are christians who are saved.....but are still Bound up in the letter of the law.

God's Word Frees us, not enslaves us to the law again.......

Truth is.....A Freed heart GLADLY obeys God's Word..not because he is being beaten over the head with the letter of the law..but simply, a child of God now believes and obeys God's Word, out of LOVE for God.

And the 144,000 is speaking ONLY of the people who will be saved during that particular time....some people misunderstand this to mean ALL people.

But what is most important is that one is saved..so therefore, I won't argue doctrinal differences .flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 06:10 PM
See.....God stil gave man a free will..to CHOOSE to believe or not believe .

But It still requires faith believe and come to God ......


I use my free will to believe that God is much better than the biblical picture.

If I’m wrong and God is inferior to how I believe than so be it. He should at least be pleased that I thought he was better than that.

Why would I want to choose to believe that God is inferior to how I already believe him to be?

Nothing could be greater than the God of pantheism. Nothing. It’s the perfect picture.

Don’t you think God should be perfect?

The Biblical picture of God is far from perfect. It’s a picture of a God who made a real mess of creation and had to drown almost all his human pets at one point and start all over again. It’s a real blunder of a job at creation. The pantheistic picture of God is perfection.

So I choose to believe that God is perfect. If I’m wrong and God is flawed, then so be it. I was wrong.

Clearly we are left to play guessing games in either case. Why not guess that God is perfect and hope for the best? Why pick a messy blood and guts picture of God that full of contradictions, failure and violence?

You have the free will to chose a much better picture of God. Why not use your free will to compliment God instead of using it to choose a picture that degrades him?

Don't you like God? huh

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Mon 04/14/08 06:24 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 04/14/08 06:28 PM

See.....God stil gave man a free will..to CHOOSE to believe or not believe .

But It still requires faith believe and come to God ......


I use my free will to believe that God is much better than the biblical picture.

If I’m wrong and God is inferior to how I believe than so be it. He should at least be pleased that I thought he was better than that.

Why would I want to choose to believe that God is inferior to how I already believe him to be?

Nothing could be greater than the God of pantheism. Nothing. It’s the perfect picture.

Don’t you think God should be perfect?

The Biblical picture of God is far from perfect. It’s a picture of a God who made a real mess of creation and had to drown almost all his human pets at one point and start all over again. It’s a real blunder of a job at creation. The pantheistic picture of God is perfection.

So I choose to believe that God is perfect. If I’m wrong and God is flawed, then so be it. I was wrong.

Clearly we are left to play guessing games in either case. Why not guess that God is perfect and hope for the best? Why pick a messy blood and guts picture of God that full of contradictions, failure and violence?

You have the free will to chose a much better picture of God. Why not use your free will to compliment God instead of using it to choose a picture that degrades him?

Don't you like God? huh


God sees the sincerity of your heart ,Abra.
And God understands right where you are.

In fact......God will meet you right where you are.

And if you want to, Abra.....You can ask God to reveal the whole truth to you ...and to make clear the parts that don't make sense.

And He will.
Promise.



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Mon 04/14/08 06:29 PM
Morning song.. james says faith without works is dead. period. you christian twist scripture through tradition.

Do you believe in your life you should do as those bracelets said wwjd?

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Mon 04/14/08 06:33 PM
you can not argue doctrinal issues with me because i think it is time to say the whole truth on hear. Yahshua spoke of one who would come in his own name. Not in Yahweh his fathers name. Who is this anti messiah who has come in his own name decieving the whole world? Jesus Christ is Satans angel of light

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Mon 04/14/08 06:34 PM

But like I said, ~~ I have been born again in spirit.

I just don't think I realized it before.

I have been "saved."

I have been "forgiven."

I have seen the light.

"The Christ" is the light within the soul that says "I am."

It is our inner connection to All that is. It is within us.

It cannot be found in the outer world or in religion or in the Bible.

JB





If you beleive that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world....
and if you believe Jesus rose again from the dead....
and if you believe Jesus is your Saviour.... and have received him into your heart as your personal Saviour...
then yes...You are born again then, Jeannie.flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 06:35 PM


But like I said, ~~ I have been born again in spirit.

I just don't think I realized it before.

I have been "saved."

I have been "forgiven."

I have seen the light.

"The Christ" is the light within the soul that says "I am."

It is our inner connection to All that is. It is within us.

It cannot be found in the outer world or in religion or in the Bible.

JB





If you beleive that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world....
and if you believe Jesus rose again from the dead....
and if you believe Jesus is your Saviour.... and have received him into your heart as your personal Saviour...
then yes...You are born again then, Jeannie.flowerforyou


Being born again in spirit has nothing to do with what you believe.


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Mon 04/14/08 06:36 PM

Morning song.. james says faith without works is dead. period. you christian twist scripture through tradition.

Do you believe in your life you should do as those bracelets said wwjd?

Really? and what works are done by a death bed conversion? A witness to others perhaps? What about "a camel fitting through the eye of a needle?flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 06:37 PM
jesus tried to tell yahshua he would give him the world if he would bow down to him. JC died for nobody he is alive and well having you tech falsehoods. He is the Angel of Light Prophecied that would come and decieve the whole world with a false evangel

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Mon 04/14/08 06:40 PM
i never said works would do anything. james said show me your faith and i will show you my faith by my works. You all do not like those verses. because the Angel of Light That is here has taught you that the commandments of man are more important than the commandments of Yahweh. If Yahshua is byour example to follow then do what he did. Whether a man is forgiven on his death bed i do not know. Yahweh will have mercy on who ever he wishes

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Mon 04/14/08 06:42 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 04/14/08 06:49 PM

Jesus Christ is Satans angel of light


My mistake Miles, I just remembered now, where you stated before, that you were not a Christian at all.

All this time, I thought you WERE a christian..but was just in bondage to the letter of the law.
My bad.....

Well... I am a Christian....and to me.....Jesus Christ is Lord.

Take care now.

ps..any one who quotes the bible on here like you do Miles......and yet can say, jesus is satan's angel of light..is an example of how satan deceives.
Sorry Miles....



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Mon 04/14/08 06:45 PM
i am sick of so many people on here trying to save or telling others who do not believe they are wrong. I suggest you sit down and take a good hard look at what you believe and then compare it to yahshua's life instead of some book some Dr. wrote or preacher or the 20 minute sermon you hear before they give you the collection plate.the time is near and u better listen who claims they are saved you are not if you do not practice and teach Yahshua's way of life.

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Mon 04/14/08 06:46 PM
what you say means nothing but deception to you and others if you continue to teach a lie. Do you practice and teach what the Son of Man did?

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Mon 04/14/08 06:46 PM

i am sick of so many people on here trying to save or telling others who do not believe they are wrong. I suggest you sit down and take a good hard look at what you believe and then compare it to yahshua's life instead of some book some Dr. wrote or preacher or the 20 minute sermon you hear before they give you the collection plate.the time is near and u better listen who claims they are saved you are not if you do not practice and teach Yahshua's way of life.


And so begins the battle of the Gods.

What is yahshua's way of Life??

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Mon 04/14/08 06:49 PM
It is compassion on anyone who needs it. know matter what they believe. It is keeping of the law as he did willingly through the holy spirit? It is not Hell and Brimstone.

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Mon 04/14/08 06:53 PM
if i do not sound very compassionate in what i am writing . You are right i am not compassionate to anyone who teaches the Word of Yahweh as a lie. No different than yahshua did in Math 23

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Mon 04/14/08 06:57 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/14/08 06:58 PM

if i do not sound very compassionate in what i am writing . You are right i am not compassionate to anyone who teaches the Word of Yahweh as a lie. No different than yahshua did in Math 23


I am a little confused. Who is yahshua anyway? I have heard others call Jesus yahshua.