Topic: She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmothe
Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:50 PM

funny...someone told me she disappeared to find things to cut and paste. i would much rather hear her own words and to explain her contradiction


I left because I had things to do. I came back and posted a whole slew of new news articles also so I figured I would post a few articles of interest for this subject. Take it how you want to, no skin off my nose. I am sure others will enjoy the read.bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:50 PM



why is it today everytime someone does something they have some kind of a mental illness, or we have to blame there parents.

Do you think maybe for once someone can take charge of there own life and say I messed it up all by myself.

its simple I go shoot someone and they die it is murder.

no wait i have 32 outs to get me off the hook
from blaming my parent to the nuns that wacked me in school
if that doesn't work let me say that i was mentally unstable cause my dog bit me yesterday
Oh wait that won't work I can get 32 doctors to march across the stand and say the allergy medicine I was taking made me that way

what the heck call it straight she did what she did you want to give her a crutch to do it again or say step up now and take charge



I agree, caam, but a person who is mentally ill cannot take presonal responsiblity for themselves as they are incapable. I am not giving her a crutch, I am saying if she recieves help first then she will be able to function as a normal contributing member of society. It is obvious she is mentally challenged.


if I am misreading you...please tell me. But you even said most addicts say

She says she made some bad choices like partying drinking yet it is against her religious values to use contraception.

so therefore...since she admits her bad choices but you now say the mentally ill can not take personally responsibility...then she isn't mental ill by your definition

btw...I do know about mental illness first hand as well.



asking for the 3rd time

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:52 PM




why is it today everytime someone does something they have some kind of a mental illness, or we have to blame there parents.

Do you think maybe for once someone can take charge of there own life and say I messed it up all by myself.

its simple I go shoot someone and they die it is murder.

no wait i have 32 outs to get me off the hook
from blaming my parent to the nuns that wacked me in school
if that doesn't work let me say that i was mentally unstable cause my dog bit me yesterday
Oh wait that won't work I can get 32 doctors to march across the stand and say the allergy medicine I was taking made me that way

what the heck call it straight she did what she did you want to give her a crutch to do it again or say step up now and take charge



I agree, caam, but a person who is mentally ill cannot take presonal responsiblity for themselves as they are incapable. I am not giving her a crutch, I am saying if she recieves help first then she will be able to function as a normal contributing member of society. It is obvious she is mentally challenged.


if I am misreading you...please tell me. But you even said most addicts say

She says she made some bad choices like partying drinking yet it is against her religious values to use contraception.

so therefore...since she admits her bad choices but you now say the mentally ill can not take personally responsibility...then she isn't mental ill by your definition

btw...I do know about mental illness first hand as well.



asking for the 3rd time


What is the question?

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:54 PM
the question is...did i misread your contradiction

lilith401's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:54 PM
I agree, caam, but a person who is mentally ill cannot take presonal responsiblity for themselves as they are incapable. I am not giving her a crutch, I am saying if she recieves help first then she will be able to function as a normal contributing member of society. It is obvious she is mentally challenged.


This lady is obviouly not well. People don't do this who are well. So it is obvious. What the problems are, I would have to assess her and find them but I would know just from the information given on the OP that there are issues.


Here are your words.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:55 PM
i just read the topic to my 17 yr old niece who was brought up by my sister who has complete opposite political views as me...and even she agrees with me

lilith401's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:56 PM
Oh and my step-mother comes from a family of seven. When her dad died they went on welfare. Was she mentally ill?

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:57 PM

the question is...did i misread your contradiction


Well for one addicts think partying is a good excuse for all things. Saying they made bad choices is also used by addicts as a method of making others believe they are changing or trying to change or maybe that they are changing. What contradiction?

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:59 PM

I agree, caam, but a person who is mentally ill cannot take presonal responsiblity for themselves as they are incapable. I am not giving her a crutch, I am saying if she recieves help first then she will be able to function as a normal contributing member of society. It is obvious she is mentally challenged.


This lady is obviouly not well. People don't do this who are well. So it is obvious. What the problems are, I would have to assess her and find them but I would know just from the information given on the OP that there are issues.


Here are your words.


And???? Sounds right to me.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:59 PM


the question is...did i misread your contradiction


Well for one addicts think partying is a good excuse for all things. Saying they made bad choices is also used by addicts as a method of making others believe they are changing or trying to change or maybe that they are changing. What contradiction?


you said that ALL addicts say they make bad choices...that's not accurate. then you say they can't can't personal responsibility. is that not a contraction?

Winx's photo
Tue 04/01/08 04:59 PM


the question is...did i misread your contradiction


Well for one addicts think partying is a good excuse for all things. Saying they made bad choices is also used by addicts as a method of making others believe they are changing or trying to change or maybe that they are changing. What contradiction?


How I have heard that story from someone close to me!!

lilith401's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:00 PM
I see this might be pointless, Rose.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:00 PM
after my dad died in the AF after being a house wife they whole time...she collected SS for us until she got on her feet and busted her butt to take care of us

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:00 PM

Oh and my step-mother comes from a family of seven. When her dad died they went on welfare. Was she mentally ill?


Was she promiscuous? Did she have problems functioning normally? Alot of things would have to be considered. Who knows?

lilith401's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:03 PM


Oh and my step-mother comes from a family of seven. When her dad died they went on welfare. Was she mentally ill?


Was she promiscuous? Did she have problems functioning normally? Alot of things would have to be considered. Who knows?


You assume this woman was promiscuous and not functioning normally... the one in the OP. How is that not judging? How do you know she just doesn't know better? Or that is not what is normal in her family? You know nothing about her!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:03 PM


Oh and my step-mother comes from a family of seven. When her dad died they went on welfare. Was she mentally ill?


Was she promiscuous? Did she have problems functioning normally? Alot of things would have to be considered. Who knows?


and how do you know the woman has problems functioning? again YOU said it was OBVIOUS...not POSSIBLE

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:03 PM



the question is...did i misread your contradiction


Well for one addicts think partying is a good excuse for all things. Saying they made bad choices is also used by addicts as a method of making others believe they are changing or trying to change or maybe that they are changing. What contradiction?


you said that ALL addicts say they make bad choices...that's not accurate. then you say they can't can't personal responsibility. is that not a contraction?


Addiction is considered mental illness in most circles. Mentally ill people do not realize that they do things to hurt themselves in life. Saying they made bad choices can mean alot of things. If she is really claiming responsibility good for her. But that does not mean that always. I am still not seeing the contradiction.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:04 PM
i don't know of any DOCTOR that would diagnose someone like that and say it's OBVIOUS instead of POSSIBLE.

adj4u's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:05 PM



Stop cutting and pasting articles that have nothing to do with the point. It's beyond ridiculous.



They are relavent.


how about IN YOUR OWN WORDS answer the questions asked of you...like the contradiction you made in your diagnosis of the woman in question


she was saying it in her own words you attacked those words now she post scientific research and you attack said research

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if one has their mind made up and refuses research thiers or others then their arguments are void substance

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 05:05 PM



Oh and my step-mother comes from a family of seven. When her dad died they went on welfare. Was she mentally ill?


Was she promiscuous? Did she have problems functioning normally? Alot of things would have to be considered. Who knows?


You assume this woman was promiscuous and not functioning normally... the one in the OP. How is that not judging? How do you know she just doesn't know better? Or that is not what is normal in her family? You know nothing about her!


Neither do you. So what does that mean? I am giving her the consideration that she may have mental issues and probably does with what she has done to her life. I would have to assess her to know more about what the issues are.