ok will include half barrel of beer with speakers

dont drink out of a can either, but now give me a cold bottle and it's on

How about a glass of Pinot Noir and just about any other sort of tunes?

at a redneck party??? yea right
not our fault you got on the phone while we planned the party

i will also throw in a cooler with ice



ok who's bring the food and what are we eating

bbq of course...duh

Rose start a thread party at Liliths

hey caam...chicken
you started it by blaring the speakers at her house..i just thought it would be more fun than you hogging all the fun

Lilith;

No problem with the can thing - I can bring a keg, and crystal goblets just for you. See, thoughtful, huh ?

But - if you insist on the pinot - can sneak in a bottle of Barone Ricasoli that is excellent. Just put it in a clean thermos first.

(and to think, the uneducated uncouth actually knows about wines...go figure)

what is wrong with you people???? i'm starting to think we all have mental illnesses (except me )

no wine at a redneck party. that is just wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey - I offered the compromise to Lilith!! Keg and crystal glasses, so she doesn't have to drink out of cans!

what redneck party do you know of that has crystal???? it's like having the easter bunny celebrating st pattys day...doesn't mix

I know, I know...but hey - worth the effort if we can get Lilith drunk and dancing on tables....

It will always bother me that those that need help are over shaodwed by those abusing the system

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/100862

NC does too they limit the child payments to two children for two years! They offer career training to the mothers, and pay their day-care so they can go to school.
If they dont then they quit paying at the two year mark.

I bet it has saved us millions since it was started!

i think that is a good idea. I wish Texas had it

Public assistance that actually... you know... assists the Public. What a novel concept!

too many abuse the system and it's not fair to those that need it

She fits in this catagory of mentally ill clients who are missed by the welfare department.

This is from Judge David L. Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law:
February 2002
Three groups of TANF recipients need mental health services and specific amendments to TANF could
assist the first two. The third group would benefit from greater liaison between TANF agencies and mental
health authorities at the state and local levels:
# Adults suffering from a mental disorder and/or a substance abuse disorder;
# Children in TANF families who have a serious mental disorder which results in significant
impairment in the child’s ability to function (as defined under the Americans with Disabilities Act).
# All children in TANF families who are growing up with the stress of a poverty environment, and
many of whom are also exposed to domestic or community violence.
MENTAL ILLNESS AMONG ADULTS ON TANF
Significant numbers, and perhaps a growing percentage, of individuals still on the welfare rolls are
individuals with significant barriers to work. One of these significant barriers is mental illness:
# Around one-fourth and one-third of welfare recipients have a mental illness.
# Nationally, between 70 and 90 percent of adults of working age who have a serious mental illness
are unemployed.
# Mental illnesses commonly found among the welfare population are: depression, generalized
anxiety disorder, and post-traumatic stress disorder. The following chart illustrates the overrepresentation
of mental health problems among those on welfare.
TANF Recipients General Population
Depression 25-53% 13%
Generalized Anxiety Disorder 7-10% 3.4%
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder 15% 3.5%
# Depression is the most common mental illness among welfare recipients, especially among low-
LEFT BEHIND:
Data on Adults and Children with Mental
Disorders in Families on TANF
income women; individuals who receive welfare are three times more likely to be depressed between
five and seven days a week than those who are not on welfare.
# One-quarter to one-third of TANF recipients have learning disabilities.
# In Utah, a study found the following prevalence rates: clinical depression (42%), generalized anxiety
disorder (7%), post-traumatic stress disorder (15%), learning disability (23%), physical health
problems (35%), severe child behavior problems (23%).
# Twenty-eight percent of children in low-income families live with a parent with symptoms suggestive
of poor mental health, compared with 17 percent of all children.
# Forty-two to 54 percent of domestic violence victims who receive welfare also suffer from
depression.
# Up to one-half of parents who have left the welfare rolls due to a sanction indicate that they could
not comply with the rules because of a disability, health condition, or illness.
CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES IN TANF FAMILIES
# Eight to 21 percent of families on welfare have at least one child with a disability.
# In 30 to 40 percent of families, the mother, the child, or both have some type of disability.
# Low-income parents have reported 38 percent more behavioral problems among their children than
did the parents of children in families with higher incomes.
# Children with depressed mothers show high rates of mental illness and high-risk behaviors.
# Around 42 percent of welfare recipients who care for young children show clinical levels of
depression. This is about two to four times as high as depression in the general population.
# The impact of having a depressed mother has a lasting effect on children:
? At age three, they do poorly on school readiness and behavioral indicators.
• They often display attachment disorders and post-traumatic stress disorder.
• They also exhibit high rates of mental illness and high-risk behaviors.
Co-OCCURRENCE OF MENTAL ILLNESS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE
? Over half of the people diagnosed as having a mental health illness also suffer from problems with
substance abuse.
? Between 10 and 20 percent of welfare recipients have substance abuse and drug problems.