Topic: She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmothe
adj4u's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:15 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 04/01/08 06:16 PM
339 posts yes i may have missed and/or forgot some but it does not change the point i made

if you have no proof then it is not a stat

i picture is worth a thousand words i heard that somewhere

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:19 PM
my word is all the proof i need. I know what I know and have experienced and won't be called a liar. as i have said...they were examples

i could care less if you want to believe me...because i know it's true. my experience means more to me than a report by researchers or the media because people can twist things to their own point of view alot. i prefer the first hand knowledge.

but i wasn't even saying it's everyone in the system. i didn't prejudge anyone

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Tue 04/01/08 06:19 PM
Opinion Research Corporation* polled 1,008 Americans on behalf of the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI) and the National Depressive and Manic-Depressive Association (National DMDA), and found that manic-depressive illness is still largely misunderstood.


Yeah. That was very conclusive. laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 04/01/08 06:19 PM

Let's correct this post for accuracy here:


I will not discuss my personal information with just anyone so you assume also that I am not speaking from personal experience. Which may be incorrect also.

Translation - I can't provide any personal information, because I have none credible enough to back up my opinions. Hence the need for continuous cut/paste diatribes.

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My point all the way through here is that people prejudicely judge welfare recipients and it is not correct prejudice from the beginning and noone ever considers all the factors that make welfare recipients, mental health of adults and children, family situations, disasters, etc.....

Claims 'noone' (that should be no one) even considers all the factors. HELLO!! Pot meet Kettle, Kettle - Pot. You continuously rant on here cut/paste b.s. and you NEVER post anything that even remotely delineates you understand more than your own narrow Camelotian views. You haven't a clue as to how the world works in your back yard, let alone across the nation or globe.


Regardless to all the hype welfare recipients for the most part are short term and they get jobs and move on. Most of the residual welfare recipients have mental health issues. I worked for the welfare reform instituted by Clinton in the 90's that set the 5 lifetime year limits on welfare recipients, with all of the assessment and referrals, etc.... I do know what I am talking about.

Ahh yes..the Great Democratic Saviour - Clinton. Model for societal reform he was. Not even smart enough to admit he had sex, let alone get a hotel room. So - where are all the glorious reforms and great works that he did to reshape the nation? Answer - history is still looking to.


Whether people want to believe me or not is up to them. I am not angry. I am not upset in the least.

No, you just refer to others as 'uncouth' and 'uneducated' Face up to it. Yellow and Lilith handed you your butt on a platter in this topic, you have no clue, and totally screwed up any point you wanted to make.
Then you bolted when you had too many stacking up against you. Not the first time we have seen you do this.


I share information because I enjoy sharing. I have no hard feelings for anyone on here and I hope noone has any for meflowerforyou


You don't share information. You regurgitate propaganda whose main point is to complain about propaganda. You don't post original critical thinking. You don't post opinions you research all aspects of. You cannot even provide personal examples because you are bereft of life experiences.
No - I am not angry at you - annoyance is about the best you get for your constant regurgitations and lack of credible understandings. 'ell, you even feel qualified to tell *professional* soldiers how they should act in a country you have never been to, nor have done any historical research on.




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wiley's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:22 PM
It's good that you can laugh at yourself. Shows you at least have a sense of humor. That's something.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:23 PM

339 posts yes i may have missed and/or forgot some but it does not change the point i made

if you have no proof then it is not a stat

i picture is worth a thousand words i heard that somewhere


fact is...I have answered anything brought to me. if i have missed a question to me...then anyone can repeat it, i will say sorry for missing it AND ANSWER IT. i don't pick apart what i want to answer

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:24 PM

339 posts yes i may have missed and/or forgot some but it does not change the point i made

if you have no proof then it is not a stat

i picture is worth a thousand words i heard that somewhere


adjflowerforyou :wink:

adj4u's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:25 PM

my word is all the proof i need. I know what I know and have experienced and won't be called a liar. as i have said...they were examples

i could care less if you want to believe me...because i know it's true. my experience means more to me than a report by researchers or the media because people can twist things to their own point of view alot. i prefer the first hand knowledge.

but i wasn't even saying it's everyone in the system. i didn't prejudge anyone


i never called you a liar

just stated how the stats work

and yes there is fraud

but that does not make this woman a part of that fraud

anymore than the statistics make her not a part of the fraud

you are personalizing and it is not intended as such

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:27 PM


my word is all the proof i need. I know what I know and have experienced and won't be called a liar. as i have said...they were examples

i could care less if you want to believe me...because i know it's true. my experience means more to me than a report by researchers or the media because people can twist things to their own point of view alot. i prefer the first hand knowledge.

but i wasn't even saying it's everyone in the system. i didn't prejudge anyone


i never called you a liar

just stated how the stats work

and yes there is fraud

but that does not make this woman a part of that fraud

anymore than the statistics make her not a part of the fraud

you are personalizing and it is not intended as such


Amenflowerforyou I never meant to personally attack anyone and if I did I will gladly apologize to any and all. I did not mean anything as a personal attack on anyone.flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:28 PM


my word is all the proof i need. I know what I know and have experienced and won't be called a liar. as i have said...they were examples

i could care less if you want to believe me...because i know it's true. my experience means more to me than a report by researchers or the media because people can twist things to their own point of view alot. i prefer the first hand knowledge.

but i wasn't even saying it's everyone in the system. i didn't prejudge anyone


i never called you a liar

just stated how the stats work

and yes there is fraud

but that does not make this woman a part of that fraud

anymore than the statistics make her not a part of the fraud

you are personalizing and it is not intended as such


you are right it doesn't...doesn't mean she is a sex addict either. and I didn't say you called me a liar or even implied it. i gave examples for the purpose of the thread not to personalize it. it's NO different than using reposts from the internet...it's a different means of making a point.

adj4u's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:32 PM
did you not see this line as well...

anymore than the statistics make her not a part of the fraud

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:33 PM
i never said she was frauding the system. what i said was i don't think the tax dollars should SUPPORT her but HELP her.

i also said the cycle seems to be repeating there as well.

adj4u's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:39 PM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 04/01/08 06:42 PM
that is impossible

either it helps or it doesn't

if it is not supposed to then it is fraud

if she deserves it then she should get it

can not have it both ways

if you do not like how the system is working call your representative

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/01/08 06:41 PM
well...i am done beating a dead horse with you guys. i didn't judge or assume and gave just as relivant examples as reports.

knock yourself out guysdrinker

Winx's photo
Tue 04/01/08 07:00 PM

Let's correct this post for accuracy here:


I will not discuss my personal information with just anyone so you assume also that I am not speaking from personal experience. Which may be incorrect also.

Translation - I can't provide any personal information, because I have none credible enough to back up my opinions. Hence the need for continuous cut/paste diatribes.

[quote}
My point all the way through here is that people prejudicely judge welfare recipients and it is not correct prejudice from the beginning and noone ever considers all the factors that make welfare recipients, mental health of adults and children, family situations, disasters, etc.....

Claims 'noone' (that should be no one) even considers all the factors. HELLO!! Pot meet Kettle, Kettle - Pot. You continuously rant on here cut/paste b.s. and you NEVER post anything that even remotely delineates you understand more than your own narrow Camelotian views. You haven't a clue as to how the world works in your back yard, let alone across the nation or globe.


Regardless to all the hype welfare recipients for the most part are short term and they get jobs and move on. Most of the residual welfare recipients have mental health issues. I worked for the welfare reform instituted by Clinton in the 90's that set the 5 lifetime year limits on welfare recipients, with all of the assessment and referrals, etc.... I do know what I am talking about.

Ahh yes..the Great Democratic Saviour - Clinton. Model for societal reform he was. Not even smart enough to admit he had sex, let alone get a hotel room. So - where are all the glorious reforms and great works that he did to reshape the nation? Answer - history is still looking to.


Whether people want to believe me or not is up to them. I am not angry. I am not upset in the least.

No, you just refer to others as 'uncouth' and 'uneducated' Face up to it. Yellow and Lilith handed you your butt on a platter in this topic, you have no clue, and totally screwed up any point you wanted to make.
Then you bolted when you had too many stacking up against you. Not the first time we have seen you do this.


I share information because I enjoy sharing. I have no hard feelings for anyone on here and I hope noone has any for meflowerforyou


You don't share information. You regurgitate propaganda whose main point is to complain about propaganda. You don't post original critical thinking. You don't post opinions you research all aspects of. You cannot even provide personal examples because you are bereft of life experiences.
No - I am not angry at you - annoyance is about the best you get for your constant regurgitations and lack of credible understandings. 'ell, you even feel qualified to tell *professional* soldiers how they should act in a country you have never been to, nor have done any historical research on.




You're too funny. Your translation of the first quote just cracks me up. laugh

Dragoness's photo
Tue 04/01/08 07:14 PM
winxflowerforyou He is funny, I laugh my ass off every post. I do not know what I did to him but he has made it his project to personally attack me in every thread he sees me in.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh drinker

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Tue 04/01/08 10:14 PM


lilth is hosting a redneck party in honor of hen laugh drinker


Hey wait a minute... I was on the phone and missed all this. Where I grew up there was only one country station and it was all static-ey. And somehow I end up in Ohio! I'm not a fan of the music... sorry! Oh, and I also don't really care for beer and won't drink it out of a can. noway

Wow... I'm sure I sound like a snot. I don't drink soda from the can, either. It's the can thing..



I like a glass, does that make me a snob?
canned beersick

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Tue 04/01/08 10:17 PM

i will also throw in a cooler with ice



ok who's bring the food and what are we eating



Dang it You all had a party while I was working???? I am really depressed now.

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Tue 04/01/08 10:28 PM


Dragon... who diagnosed this woman as mentally ill? Who administered a comprehensive diagnostic evaluation?


Very few on here even put into consideration that she has mental problems. It is a great possibility considering the little information we were given. I am considering that as part of the problem. I am giving another human the benefit of the doubt that is commendable I would think.


I didn't only consider it , I am sure of it! 1st step is to make sure she stops breeding!

Kaseynej's photo
Tue 04/01/08 10:30 PM
Here in MN you get 5 years and that's it for your entire lifetime. After that you're on your own.