I hate it when they say that usually. When I do like it is when the relationship is going nowhere (I usually am the guy who doesn't want to go through the drama of breaking it off) and she says "lets just be friends." Then it is a great relief.

I hate saying this being a self professed christian, but I think this whole "seed faith" thing has been blown way out of proportion. Many TV evangelists have taken advantage of gullible people by using a few quotes from the bible on this topic. If you want to give money, please don't give it to a guy on TV asking you to "plant a seed." There are many legitimate charity organizations where your money will be better spent.

You love bringing up this whole stoning concept don't you? lol
Thats why I was taught to read the new testament first, and then go to the old. In a lot of respects it seems as though Jesus wasn't even fond of the old testament. One does contradict the other. In my own personal belief, I don't even concentrate on the old testament at all. I suppose there are a few things you can gain from it such as the "ten commandments" but all in all the whole basic christian belief system is centered on the new. Sorry to go off topic on the thread lol.

And to answer your other point. Yea I know a bit about the scopes trial. I think I wrote a paper on it once.

I can't exactly reproduce everything I have read on this subject without going back to the library and digging. It is based mostly on statistics and point out the improbability of evolution. Some scientist have just exhausted themselves trying to find why there is a fossil with what appears to be partial flippers, and none with totally formed or even in the intermediate stages. That is of course a brief and tiny example, but they point out many more inconsistencies that arise. Therefore they have to simply state that creation as it stands, is the only logical explanation. Now a lot of these creation scientist are completely open to new evidence that the evolutionist have to offer, and would be more than willing to expound on those ideas if they deemed them credible. Now, I am sure it works both ways in this debate. But what what I gained from this info is that it is just as ludicrous to teach evolution as it would be to teach that creation is a fact. Neither one is known, so neither one should be treated as fact. Buy the problem is that this is not the case. All you have to do is turn on the discovery channel and see some guy telling you that this bird was originally a dinosaur or whatever. They don't know, so they should at least state that "Many scientist believe such and such." I don't have a problem with that.

There is actually creationism as a theory, and it completely stands alone from the bible teachings. Then there are evolutionist who themselves admit that creation is a more likely scenario, but they are still hoping to find that missing link. The general public will sometimes roll their eyes when they hear "creation theory" but that is because they automatically associate it with the book of Genesis.

It doesn't? Even a lion eating a antelope is miraculous to me. Everything has its own special niche. Humans are the only things that seem slightly out of place. Just my opinion.

Yes there are girls like that, but I think they pretend not to be that way, where as a guy will be more straight up.

My justification for this question lies within nature. Everything working in perfect harmony with everything else. So to answer my own question...yes.

I got my leg pinned by between a fork truck and a pile of plywood. For me so far, that was the worst.

I have seen these posts on who loves Jesus, and who believes in Jesus and they seem to go no where. I am going to try and make this simpler hopeful and just ask: Do you believe in a creator. Regardless of faith, do you believe there is a supreme being that created the earth/stars/universe?

Oh, and don't think I don't question my own religion, I do it all the time. You almost have to to be a normal thinking being. You should see all the books around my house on jesus conspiracy theories and this and that. I can still take all that in and have faith in what I believe. Sounds odd, I know but that's me.

No, they torn that down after it sat there for 20 years or so. Yea pretty much a ghost town here.

I actually don't disagree with you on this one Krimsa.

Krimsa, you don't even have a position! All I see you do is attack others.
Ok, let me try. 1)Supposedly you have a god that personally cares about you.

2) Ability to be saved = hope
3) Don't have to worry about reincarnation,no afterlife or whatever else.
4)Self worth
5)Explanation of where evil is from.
6)Possibly an explanation of why the world is turning to #hit.
7)Haven't looked at every religion out there, but its the only one I have seen that is based on loving and helping others.
8)The greatest country in the world was founded on this faith.

If I were to say I am a hard-core/take the bible literally person I would be lying. Are their contradictions? Hell yea, but this stuff has been passed down for thousands of years, so I have to give it the benefit of the doubt. It works for me.

I'll let you have the last word on this and then maybe I will argue with you in another forum.

I would need to bust out some good quotes by some real "thinkers" which I will admit I am not. There are certain beliefs I have, but for me to put them eloquently into words is another story. I bet if I was rambling on about the moon phase, and fertility rites or something you wouldn't be attacking my opinion regardless of whether I was right or wrong, simply because it doesn't go along with the christian belief system, and whatever that may be that goes against the grain, you like it. Wow that was a run-on sentence!

Are you Wiccan? Just let me know what you believe in, and maybe I can see where your coming from. Or...do you just like to argue anything that even mentions Christianity? Some people are like that too, shoot even I do that and I tend to think of myself as Christian.

Ok, listen. I don't care what people believe in, they can believe in what they want to or not at all. As far as my comment on Christianity, I was mainly trying to say what it has to offer. Others religions could be "self love" or love of nature or no love, but a big reward in the end and many others. I am not a my way or the highway type of guy, you got me all wrong. And as far as my other point, (as you can tell I am not a theologian by any means) I basically am saying this:
Lets say one person says there is a god, and the other says there is not. They can't both be right, it wouldn't work.

Yea but they are really beautiful people. Once the nerves start going, the brain shuts down.

Hey,your right and I totally agree with you, but that is just how I roll. Especially if I am drinking on the first date, then the money just totally burns a hole in my pocket.