and who made you king over everyone? oh that's right NO ONE DID! if you don't like "butt sex" fine DON'T DO IT, but let others engage if that's what works for them. It's not your business now and never was.

You get the idea, homosexuality is NOT just a human thing, so on some level it is a natural part of our world, no matter if you like that or not.

And on the rest.....no people haven't, but when it comes to personal choices that effect only the people involved, others need to get the hell over themselves and worry about their own damn lives. Life would be so much simpler.........

Well maybe it's time we ****ing change, we're not in the dark ages anymore. People are different, and have different needs and interests. It's always been that way (even centuries ago sorry to tell you), and always will be. They won't all fit into your neat little utopia world you envision, learn to deal with it because it will never ever change no matter if you like that or not. I'm sorry if you can't understand that, but that is life.

And last I checked I don't think we have any problems creating a next generation, if anything we are OVER creating. But really, don't even try that argument because it will fail, there will always be straight people, and bi people who will reproduce, two gays or two lesbians being together is not gonna end the life cycle, that is ridiculous and has no basis at all in reality. Every animal that exists has a homosexual sect.....have they all gone extinct? You know damn well they haven't, so we're not either. That's not even to mention the fact there are other ways to form a life anyway for homosexual couples, but regardless your argument fails completely, gays have always been a part of society in some form, and we're still here. That isn't gonna change no matter how much you think it would.

Yes, why the hell are we letting a god damn RELIGION dictate people's behaviors for? Give me one good ****ing reason?! It has NO PLACE in lawmaking, NONE! If two people wanna have "butt sex" as you people wanna call it, why is that your damn business for?? People need to stay the **** out of others personal lives and worry about their own. Enough is enough with morality and the religious right driving the laws!

Says you.....the people who make gays out to be different and raise up bigots for that difference are who screw up the kids, people like you. All kids want is a good home and love, who the hell cares whether those giving it are gay or not? I can guarantee you they wouldn't. You place that judgment into their heads, it's not ingrained.

This, and anyone who thinks they do, deserves to be enslaved because they don't care about their freedom enough to fight for it.

As hard as it is for you to understand the concept of FREEDOM since you seem so hellbent on taking it away from others just because you disagree.......you can hate gay marriage all you want, just don't try and tell someone they can't marry whom they love. Simple as that, your rights end where theirs begin, democratic society be damned, maybe the system is broken ever thought about that? Oh of course not because if it was you couldn't use it to take someone's rights now could you?

And because I disagree with you I don't care about morals? Nice assumption.....really nice. Maybe I just think everyone has their own moral code, and you can't make everyone the same......but no it's easier for your small mind to just say I have no morals......

Oh and I never said you were trying to make me believe something different......but thanks for putting words in my mouth.....

Oh I have nothing wrong with freedom having a consequence attached to bad choices......this is a matter of just vs. unjust. The idea that God FORCES you to act a certain way by penalty of eternal death is as far from just as you could imagine. That's entirely different from saying: "do this and this could happen to you", it's saying: "do this or I'll kill you", one is based out of free will, one is based off blackmail and coercion, it's about that simple. But believe what you want.......

whatever you say dude.......good luck with trying to make everyone the same......

And that's fine, but again when you USE that belief to try and marginalize others, that's where you step over the line, I don't give a damn about a democratic society or anything like that, what matters is human rights, and you are using your beliefs to try and remove them from someone else just because you disagree with them. That's what you're doing to gay people, bottom line.

Moral and Immoral depends on the person, what they want, what they need, etc. There is not and should never have been a set standard for morality, everyone is different and should be treated as such, not made the same. As long as you're not harming someone else, and everyone is consenting, whether you're having sex, or doing anything else, there is no wrongdoing to me.

Moral and Immoral beyond that are personal opinions, nothing more.

Oh people can believe anything they want even if it's completely idiotic and illogical, they have that right. It doesn't mean I'm not gonna call them out on their ignorance and stupidity though, especially if they are using their beliefs be them religious or otherwise to dictate to others.

She's arguing because you are trying to use your morals keyword being YOURS to try and tell others how to live and what they can and can't do, and that is wrong. No one is saying you can't think a certain way or have a certain code of conduct to live by. If you wanna disagree with gay marriage, that's fine, but what you CAN'T do is use that disagreement to make them live how you want. That is where the line is crossed.

So you really should take your own advice here dude and leave the gay people alone.....if you don't want people trampling on your rights, don't trample on theirs.

If you don't count the fact that your God blackmails you into getting what it wants.......yeah nothing illogical or wrong about that at all.......uh huh.......

Oh and the idea of setting your own path yet only being truly able to do what God wants you to do if you wanna live forever....don't go together......just saying. You're either fully free or you're a slave, pick one, can't be both.

Do you realize how INSANE that sounds to any logical thinking person? If any parent in this world decided to treat a child the way you say God treats his children, he or she would be publicly denounced and rightfully so, but yet when God does it it's perfectly fine, nevermind the fact that it's supposed to be higher than we are spiritually yet it's acting in a way even WE know is wrong. Like I said no logic.

Oh yeah cause ETERNAL death is SOOOOOOO just and loving......right! No sane person would ever punish someone in that way here for mere disobedience, but your God does it and it's good. See what I mean? No logic.

No because man has a thirst for power.....universal law of not harming another is really the only law you need, anything else is just man trying to control another.

And I will say that there are certain truths in the Bible CERTAIN TRUTHS ONLY, but the rest of it is utter bunk. The idea that God DEMANDS anything of anyone obedience wise with death if you don't comply speaks to a being with an ego complex, not a loving God. That's where the logic ends where that crap begins.

********, it's the least logical of any "historical" book out there. People have just been conditioned to think otherwise.

As for the rest I'll say it again, people who are afraid of taking responsibility of their own lives are afraid of absolute freedom. And not saying others won't do bad things, people always do, law or no law, but the ends don't justify the means, not now, not ever.

That sums up religion right there, there IS no logic or reason in it.

And on the other it depends who you are obeying.....and why. If it's someone else trying to run your life......I'll pass and make my own choices thanks. Only people who are afraid to take responsibility for their own lives are afraid of that type of freedom.

No you wanna know WHY youth are so troubled? Because no one is EDUCATING THEM! Everyone is saying don't do this, don't do that, instead of teaching them how to be RESPONSIBLE! THAT is what the problem is. Banning and shaming NEVER works! And what you're getting is what happens when you use that exclusively, plain and simple. I would know I am a product of your type of thinking and it messed me up for YEARS! No one ever told me a god damn thing except NO, no one taught me how to properly handle what I felt, it was all NO! It doesn't work!

So you wanna help kids? LISTEN to them, EDUCATE them, DON'T dictate to them! Otherwise you beg for rebellion, and that's where they get into trouble because they have no one to guide them. It's as simple as that.