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Fri 05/16/08 11:07 PM

Communication is the key....From a very very young age start.....and then it's just becomes a habit.....My 16 year old daughter went through stages...it's part of growing up...hormones are running rampant and they just don't know what to do with it. I have also learned to listen to their language...because as much as we all know that we were there also...It is still different for them then it was for us.

I also have had to get chest to chest. I am 5"5 she is 6" so I have had to do this a few times to show her who is boss. When she get mouthy or disrespectful......it's a no go and she will suffer the consequences of her actions. It is very very very very important to be consistant....But also very important to have respect from your kids. If you want respect you must also give it....

So I would say


Communication


Consistant


And done with love.....never anger.
so feral we agree......and my post said basically the same thing...it starts early....so if it's going wrong now...well too little too late.

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Fri 05/16/08 11:06 PM



when there is anything amiss with the children look at and treat the parents...


in this case ..... i honestly think it's too late


too little too late.... what has happened here has been developing for years . it's not an over night thing...she finally reached the end of her latin, your girl.
when enough hypocrisy is blasted in their faces...what do you expect ??? rebellion .






wtf are you talking about?


jmo:cry:



I can't belive someone would say the above. I have seen far far worse come out of rebellion then this.....for shame whoever wrote the above.....And the prayer warrior is on it.....so get ready mom........will not cease until your baby is well......and remember mom to help yourself.....so that the cycle stops with her.....


but you can believe people will suggest to violence to deal with this??!!

i just re-read the whole thread....my comments are mild in light of the cops and marines in here....

Americaman...was more articulate in stating what i have also said...that the problem started long ago and something shifted on a deep level. something drover her from what she always believed was safe and good...now she wants to find it ALL out for herself.

what does that action say?

to me it says i have no more respect for your opinion , rule, standard.

I HAVE A 14 yr old daughter! and a 24 yr old son and a 35 yr old daughter...i've done this puberty thing 3 times in completely different environments and 10 years apart means even the drugs are different as well...luckily my kids are all cool and responsible and conscious...but there was a moment that lasted 4 years when i wondered about my son. he got involved with a girl...his first love and she became his authority on life and EVERYTHING...

i told him they could do their little dance but not under my roof...i almost emotionally lost my son to her... but luckily where we live we don't have the same level crime or hard drug use....


all i can say is look into yourself...you most likely know when you two started to drift apart...

the hypocrisy i mentioned is all around you and her...have you looked at society lately
?? at how people treat each other...how much selfrespect do you have...what kind of example are you for her? does she look up to you? is she proud of you?

i am the example for my kids...i am responsible...not their friends not the society...at the end of the day it is my example my upbringing that will give them the values and strength to live by those values ...no matter who or what interferes...the fact that i walk the walk says most of it to them. i practice what i preach and i don't exploit my kids by having them live up to MY expectations...

i have never used violence and i wholeheartedly am against it on all levels...communication...support..personal integrity and honesty...the same building blocks for any relationship

oh yea and humour...gotta have a strong sense of humour....so before ya'all bash me for my ideas ....

remember i am allowed my opinion and my evidence lives in 3 amazing human beingsflowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 11:24 AM
why certainly!! have them all!!

and when you're finished..... OFF!!! with their heads!!!

lmaobigsmile bigsmile

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Fri 05/16/08 11:20 AM
duncan...have i told you lately how much i love you??? !!
lollaugh :heart: laugh

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Fri 05/16/08 08:58 AM
asalaam aleikum!

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Fri 05/16/08 05:02 AM
Enter my brightness
be washed in the feel
Of essential me
touch lightly, stroke
Pain clears away
acute senses
Trace each line
scar, mark
My total release
will be you
i seek haven
like a toxic waste container
sailing the seas searching for an open port
where can i find a safe harbour to recycle this pollution?

who will unload the stench that no one can bear?
when will my clothes burn the history from my skin
who wakes up and looks at me with my eyes?
why don't i recognize this girl sweeping away the ashes
it feels like my country has fallen from the window of the train

a gentle breeze in a strange summer
and the windows are white then red
and the sun is a pommegranate at dusk
and i, a stolen orange.
why are you running away from me?
when all i want
from the country of daggers and nightingales
is my mothers handkerchief and
reasons for a new death


a gentle breeze in an oasis
and the earth is a feast!
the birds have flown
to a time that will never return
you'd like to know where i came from?
and what's between us?
my country is
the joy of being in chains
a kiss sent in the post

all i want
from the land that slaughtered me
is my mother's handkerchief
and reasons for a new death

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Fri 05/16/08 04:47 AM
oops sorry it's late..lol


sigh i was just imagining bigsmile bigsmile flowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 04:45 AM
hmmmm can i mash you in my hands then???? eh??? lol

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Fri 05/16/08 04:37 AM
bump:heart:

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Fri 05/16/08 04:30 AM
:heart: Sadieflowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 04:22 AM
no that's not quite what we were saying.....



you men just NEVER got over the fact that WE bring life here...pretty powerful talent if ya ask me....lol


you have usurped our power and look at the mess the world is in as a result of the madness you have created!!! as men so insecurely grasp at straws to save themselves, to retain their illusion of power,

THE GREAT MOTHER is gearing up!!! will flick you off like a dead mosquito...lmao


hi duncanflowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Fri 05/16/08 04:10 AM
flowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 04:01 AM
so based on so much of what i've read.... HOW IS IT POSSIBLE!!??? that this idiot is allowed to run such a powerful country? steal the presidency lie to the whole country and still sit there???

ya gotta wonder

america the land of the free and the home of the brave


rightnoway noway

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Fri 05/16/08 03:56 AM
i liked it alot as well....just didn't get the cadenceflowerforyou flowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 03:52 AM
when there is anything amiss with the children look at and treat the parents...


in this case ..... i honestly think it's too late


too little too late.... what has happened here has been developing for years . it's not an over night thing...she finally reached the end of her latin, your girl.
when enough hypocrisy is blasted in their faces...what do you expect ??? rebellion .


jmo:cry:

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Fri 05/16/08 03:46 AM
o yea !! and d4tc....very cool read..flowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 03:44 AM
yea huh??!! lol


and to say you aught to be a rapperflowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 03:41 AM
some nice expressions but it needs some work...

if you want to read some amazing poets read CCP and Sharris and Oya and slowhand and and and ......so many great poets

if you want constructive feedback i think the metre...the rhythm is off somehow....ya got to keep the integrity of your poem(because it's beautiful) and play with the metre....flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Fri 05/16/08 03:22 AM
:heart: :heart: :heart:

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Fri 05/16/08 03:16 AM
Dear Diary
today is my first day here...i feel like a tourist in a new land! They have very strange costumes here and they speak in loud tones... lot's of exclamations!!!!!

i wonder if i will be understood? or must i learn a new language.... i have a friend here, she said they don't understand her language



dear diary

what language do you speak?laugh laugh laugh