Well now that you understand that some people choose to not drink, did you want to get back on the topic? Were you going to enlist the time reading the thread at all?
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Faith is Fantasy
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No it doesnt. Stem cells are the body's master cells. Scientists are studying them for the emerging field of regenerative medicine.They also want to use them to study disease and to seek better treatments for cancer, diabetes and other conditions.Those found in day old embryos can produce any cell type found in the body. So-called adult stem cells are found in the blood and in all tissues and are less flexible.
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Response to what?
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I basically agree. "Do not" does not mean never. There is a differance between being incapable like an alcoholic or someone with a failing liver and choosing not to drink. Anyway, evolution anyone?
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Well basically. Although "do not" implies that I still can and choose of my own volition not to. Also, I was afraid on my profile if i selected never drinks it could be a problem if someone thought I was incapable of drinking which would be a lie. Anyway, are we ever going to talk about evolution on this thread again?
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I do not is synonymous with never, I am sorry.
Do not is not synonymous with never because we do not know what time frame you are talking about. I might not drink ever but I am capable of drinking whenever I like. An alcoholic (on a dating site) would need to be aware of that |
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Im not sure i understand that comment. Anyway were you ever going to discuss evolution or simply my drinking habits (or lack there of)?
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Thu 02/12/09 11:19 PM
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You stated that you don't drink but its an option for you,
Do not is not the same as never. Look I will prove it in grammatical structure. I do not eat sushi. I will eat sushi but I choose not to eat it. perhaps I dont want the sushi right then. This implies I do not want the sushi but I am not incapable of eating the sushi ever. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Thu 02/12/09 11:04 PM
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Read above the words "I don't drink".
Don’t is not synonymous with never. I also just explained. This is a dating site. If a man approached me under the mistaken notion that I NEVER drink or am incapable of drinking and I can, then that would be a lie. I have also drunk in the past and can in the future if I choose. Don't means "do not" which is synonymous with never.
No it isn’t and especially not in the situation mentioned above. If someone is in recovery from alcoholism, they can not be around alcohol. They can not be with someone who drinks AT ALL in most cases. You stated that you don't drink but its an option for you,
Yes I don’t choose to drink but if I was presented with a glass of wine, yes I could drink that wine. I have no medical conditions that would prohibit me drinking. so by saying that you don't drink isn't lying because you could if you wanted to.
Exactly. Well murder is an option for you so is it safe to say that by that logic one could say that you were a murderer because you could murder if you wanted to?
Anyone could murder if they wanted to. An alcoholic in recovery willfully chooses not to drink. It is not an option for them and ideally they would choose not to be with someone who can drink, even if on occasion. They want someone who NEVER drinks so they are not tempted. |
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I said I dont drink and I dont smoke and I rarely use foul language. If I were to go out to dinner and there was a bottle of wine I could have a glass if I wanted. I do not drink to the point of intoxication. If I stated that I never drank on my profile, and a man approached me who was a recovered alcoholic, that would be misleading to him because I CAN drink. This is a dating site after all.
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I have not contradicted myself at all.
What do you call claiming you have faith and then stating you have nothing to lose? Me having nothing to lose as I have already explained means that if I am wrong in my Christian beliefs then I lose nothing because I have lived a better life by living by those principles
But in a historical context, when looking back upon Christianity we know that not to be the case. even if I am wrong and end up as mud in the end instead of starting as mud as the Bible states.
Well if it ends up there is nothing after death, as the Atheists seem to feel, then it won’t matter to you or I correct? What is so hard to understand here.
You are the one who can make up your mind. You know what I know you understand, you just enjoy twisting things around like a bad attorney until the truth means nothing.
I have sat through a lot of trials. Witnesses ALWAYS break down. I have also set through lots of trials and Attorneys always lie. Case in point- you state three posts ago that you do not drink, smoke or use foul language. You might want to change your profile which states that you drink "occasionally" before you claim to never drink. Perjury is punishable even in the Agnostic belief system. I dont drink. I can drink if I want. If I stated that i never drink, I dont think thats even an option, then it woudl be a lie. I might have a beverage with a meal. I dont drink to the point of intoxication. I love the taste of red wine. It would be a lie if I claimed I never drink. I do not purchase alcohol in the grocery store. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Thu 02/12/09 10:36 PM
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I have not contradicted myself at all.
What do you call claiming you have faith and then stating you have nothing to lose? Me having nothing to lose as I have already explained means that if I am wrong in my Christian beliefs then I lose nothing because I have lived a better life by living by those principles
But in a historical context, when looking back upon Christianity we know that not to be the case. even if I am wrong and end up as mud in the end instead of starting as mud as the Bible states.
Well if it ends up there is nothing after death, as the Atheists seem to feel, then it won’t matter to you or I correct? What is so hard to understand here.
You are the one who can't make up your mind. You know what I know you understand, you just enjoy twisting things around like a bad attorney until the truth means nothing.
I have sat through a lot of trials. Witnesses ALWAYS break down. |
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You forgot to add your comments.
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Try to remember you said you weren't afraid of Hell.
I’ve never acknowledged that hell exists. I never will acknowledge it exists. People create their own hells on earth and they are very good at it. You say that you don't twist but you state that I don't care. Thats twisting Krimsa. Thanks for proving my point.
You said so yourself in your last post. You have nothing to lose. Its good that you don't smoke, drink or use foul language but it won't get you into Heaven.
I don’t want to go to heaven. I don’t believe in that either. My having Faith invested is the underlying premise of my salvation
I find it odd that you keep contradicting yourself from one post to the next. First you have nothing to lose and now you have a lot of faith riding on the bible being true. Pick one and go with it. Either you care or you don’t. I have no idea why you point this out.
Because it’s funny. |
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Krimsa
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Thu 02/12/09 10:06 PM
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I have nothing to lose in my belief-
Really? Aren’t you a Christian? Seems like you would have quite a bit invested in this. Me having nothing to lose means that if I am wrong I have still had a more satisfying life(you will twist this I am sure)
Why do you think I will twist? I quote you and it is your own words. I merely pointed out that you were a Christian which means that you should have at least something invested in this. It’s your god after all, not mine. I think most Christians would feel strongly but maybe you just don’t care. by living by Christian principles
And what are those principles? We know historically they have meant death, oppression, torture and imprisonments for millions. I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t hardly even use foul language. I don’t believe for one minute that Christians have corned the market on moral behavior. My investment is faith.
I thought you said you had nothing invested in this. You having everything to lose means that if you are wrong you are going to Hell
I don’t believe in hell and even if it were true, oh well. I’m not afraid of something like that. It has nothing to do with investments.
You JUST stated you had FAITH INVESTED. |
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It's been disproven to my satisfaction.
And how would you know if you refuse to read the thread? I have nothing to lose in my belief-
Really? Aren’t you a Christian? Seems like you would have quite a bit invested in this. you do.
I do? But isn’t that what non-believers are constantly being accused of? Having nothing invested in anything except science and reason? If I am wrong, what do I lose?
Your entire belief system if you are a Christian. IF you are wrong what do you lose?
Well nothing according to you. Logically deduce your way out of that one.
Boy that was easy and I didn’t even need to put my thinking cap on. |
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Krimsa
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Thu 02/12/09 09:45 PM
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Well it seems weird but covering yourself like that does help keep the sun off you in that Mediterranean heat. I don’t know about black though. Generally the men wrap themselves in white.
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If you had read the thread, you would know. If you think it is proven already that evolution is not compatible with the Bible then why are you still monitoring the thread? Could you please stay on topic? Why is Evolution not compatible with the Bible? It’s been proven to my satisfaction. As stated you would know if you read the thread. Or any part of the thread. It is incompatible with the bible because the bible states that humans were created from mud and that is not true. You can prove this statement to be false if you like. We are waiting. Jump in. Go ahead. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Thu 02/12/09 09:25 PM
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without God there is only evil.
and you know this because...? and by the meaning of fearing the lord our god, it is referring to the fact that he created you and he is your father,
Really? I just naturally feared him due to all that stoning business. And how does a "father" create anything? I thought mothers were responsible for birth. much the same as having a fear of your father as a child.
Were you beat as a child? not a scared to death fear but a repectful loving fear.
That is not "Love." also, there is no reason for people to be good on their own with the exception of our court system.
Really? I am good on my own. people that honestly put their faith in God lean more towards doing good,
People like Hitler and the Witch hunters in Salem, Mass 1692? not because that is what the bible says, but that is where the holy spirit leads us.
He also did some leadin into the Crusades. |
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If you had read the thread, you would know.
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