IS IT possible that God used evolution to make men from beasts? Did God direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans? Some scientists and religious leaders claim to believe both the theory of evolution and the Bible. They say that the Bible book of Genesis is a parable. Perhaps you have wondered, ‘Is the theory that man evolved from animals compatible with the Bible?’

The apostle Paul told educated Greeks: “God . . . made out of one man every nation of men”

Understanding our origin is vital to understanding who we are, where we are going, and how we should live. Only with knowledge of man’s origin can we understand God’s permission of suffering and his purpose for man’s future. We cannot enjoy a fine standing with God if we are not sure that he is our Creator. So let us examine what the Bible says about man’s origin, his present condition, and his future. Then we will see if the theory of evolution is compatible with the Bible.

When There Was One Man

Evolutionists generally claim that a population of animals gradually developed into a population of humans, denying that there was once only one man. However, the Bible presents a very different picture. It says that we originate from one man, Adam. The Bible account presents Adam as a historical person. It gives us the names of his wife and some of his children. It tells us in detail what he did, what he said, when he lived, and when he died. Jesus did not consider that account as just a story for uneducated people. When addressing well-educated religious leaders, he said: “Did you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female?” (Matthew 19:3-5) Jesus then quoted the words about Adam and Eve recorded at Genesis 2:24.

A woman reading the Bible

Luke, a Bible writer and a careful historian, presented Adam as a person who was as real as Jesus. Luke traced Jesus’ genealogy back to the first man. (Luke 3:23-38) Also, when the apostle Paul spoke before an audience that included philosophers who were educated in the famous Greek schools, he told them: “The God that made the world and all the things in it . . . made out of one man every nation of men, to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth.” (Acts 17:24-26) Clearly, the Bible teaches that we descended from “one man.” Is what the Bible says about man’s original condition compatible with evolution?

Man’s Slide From Perfection

According to the Bible, God made the first man perfect. It is impossible for God to make things any other way. The creation account says: “God proceeded to create the man in his image . . . After that God saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good.” (Genesis 1:27, 31) What is a perfect man like?

Evolution presents modern man as an improving animal. The Bible presents modern man as the degenerating descendant of a perfect man

A perfect man has free will and is able to imitate God’s qualities completely. The Bible says: “The true God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many plans.” (Ecclesiastes 7:29) Adam chose to rebel against God. By his rebellion, Adam lost perfection for himself and his offspring. Man’s fall from perfection explains why we often disappoint ourselves, even though we want to do what is good. The apostle Paul wrote: “What I wish, this I do not practice; but what I hate is what I do.”—Romans 7:15.

A perfect man would live forever in perfect health, according to the Bible. It is evident from what God said to Adam that if the first man had not disobeyed God, he would never have died. (Genesis 2:16, 17; 3:22, 23) God would not have declared the creation of man to be “very good” if the man had a tendency to get sick or to rebel. The fall from perfection explains why the human body, though marvelously designed, is susceptible to deformities and disease. Evolution is therefore incompatible with the Bible. Evolution presents modern man as an improving animal. The Bible presents modern man as the degenerating descendant of a perfect man.

The idea that God directed evolution in order to produce man is also incompatible with what the Bible says about God’s personality. If God guided the process of evolution, it would mean that he guided mankind into its present diseased and distressed state. However, the Bible says of God: “The Rock, perfect is his activity, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness, with whom there is no injustice; righteous and upright is he. They have acted ruinously on their own part; they are not his children, the defect is their own.” (Deuteronomy 32:4, 5) Therefore, mankind’s present suffering is not the result of God-directed evolution. It is the result of one man’s losing perfection for himself and his offspring by rebelling against God. Now that we have considered Adam, we can turn to Jesus. Is evolution compatible with what the Bible says about Jesus?

Can You Believe in Both Evolution and Christianity?

“Christ died for our sins.” As you probably know, that is one of the basic teachings of Christianity. (1 Corinthians 15:3; 1 Peter 3:18) To see why evolution is incompatible with that statement, we first need to understand why the Bible calls us sinners and what sin does to us.

We are all sinners in the sense that we cannot perfectly imitate God’s glorious qualities, such as his love and justice. Therefore, the Bible says: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23) The Bible teaches that sin is the cause of death. “The sting producing death is sin,” says 1 Corinthians 15:56. Our inheritance of sin is also the underlying cause of sickness. Jesus indicated that there is a link between sickness and our sinful condition. He said to a paralytic, “Your sins are forgiven,” and the man was healed.—Matthew 9:2-7.

How does Jesus’ death help us? The Bible contrasts Adam with Jesus Christ and says: “Just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:22) By laying down his life, Jesus paid the price for the sin that we inherited from Adam. Thus, all who exercise faith in Jesus and obey him will receive what Adam forfeited—the prospect of everlasting life.—John 3:16; Romans 6:23.

Do you see, then, that evolution is incompatible with Christianity? If we doubt that “in Adam all are dying,” how can we hope that “in the Christ all will be made alive”?

Why Evolution Attracts People

The Bible reveals how such teachings as evolution become popular. It says: “There will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.” (2 Timothy 4:3, 4) Although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine. It teaches a philosophy of life and an attitude toward God. Its beliefs are subtly attractive to mankind’s selfish, independent tendencies. Many who believe in evolution say that they also believe in God. However, they feel free to think of God as one who has not created things, does not intervene in man’s affairs, and will not judge people. It is a creed that tickles people’s ears.

Teachers of evolution are often motivated, not by the facts, but by “their own desires”—perhaps a desire to be accepted by a scientific community in which evolution is orthodox doctrine. Professor of biochemistry Michael Behe, who has spent most of his life studying the complex internal functions of living cells, explained that those who teach the evolution of cell structure have no basis for their claims. Could evolution occur at this tiny, molecular level? “Molecular evolution is not based on scientific authority,” he wrote. “There is no publication in the scientific literature—in prestigious journals, specialty journals, or books—that describes how molecular evolution of any real, complex, biochemical system either did occur or even might have occurred. . . . The assertion of Darwinian molecular evolution is merely bluster.”

1. Flowers; 2. A gazelle

“Molecular evolution is not based on scientific authority”

If evolutionists lack explanations, why do they preach their ideas so loudly? Behe explains: “Many people, including many important and well-respected scientists, just don’t want there to be anything beyond nature.”

The doctrine of evolution attracts many clergymen who want to appear wise. They are similar to those described in the apostle Paul’s letter to Christians in Rome. Paul wrote: “What may be known about God is manifest among them . . . His invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish.” (Romans 1:19-22) How can you avoid being deceived by false teachers?

Evidence-Based Faith in the Creator

The Bible stresses the importance of evidence when it defines faith. It says: “Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.” (Hebrews 11:1) True faith in God should be based on evidence that demonstrates the reality of the Creator. The Bible shows where you can find the evidence.

“I shall laud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made.” (Psalm 139:14) Taking time to reflect on the amazing design of our own body and of other living things fills us with awe at the wisdom of our Maker. Every part of the thousands of systems that cooperate to keep us alive is ideally designed. Also, the physical universe displays evidence of mathematical precision and order.
"The heavens are declaring the glory of God; and of the
work of his hands the expanse is telling.”—Psalm 19:1.

The amazing design of living things fills us with awe at the wisdom of our Maker

The Bible itself is a rich source of evidence about the Creator. Taking the time to examine the consistency of its 66 books, the superiority of its moral standards, and the unfailing fulfillment of its prophecies will provide you with abundant evidence that its author is the Creator. Understanding the Bible’s teachings will also give you confidence that the Bible is, indeed, the Word of the Creator. For example, when you understand such Bible teachings as the cause of suffering, the Kingdom of God, the future of mankind, and the way to find happiness, you will see an evident demonstration of God’s wisdom. You may come to feel as Paul did when he wrote: “O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and past tracing out his ways are!”—Romans 11:33.

A bird

As you examine the evidence and your faith grows, you will become convinced that when you read the Bible, you are listening to the Creator himself. He says: “I myself have made the earth and have created even man upon it. I—my own hands have stretched out the heavens, and all the army of them I have commanded.” (Isaiah 45:12) Surely you will never regret making the effort to prove to yourself that Gpd is the Creator of all things.

Only a fundamentalist mind is compatible with the Bible; nothing else.

Not even scriptures agree with other scriptures, not even people agree with all scriptures or each other about scripture and history offers no validation of an overall compatibility.

Therefore, it is the simple construct in a mind that requires an absolute difinitive concept of the separateness from all the unknown and unknowable universal laws of nature that is compatible with the Bible.

This is true....I believe every word from Genesis to revelation....and I do not see contradictions......


I have proved this no contradictions on many occasions but her it is back again.....so please show me contradictions.

I think the Bible is open to all ways of thinking. I've read it several times and find meanings in it that i didn't get the first few times.

And yes i belive evolution did happen because God let it happen. I think Adam and Eve were the first humans in evolution and God was like "ZOMG I HAS A HUMANS!" and he tested them and they failed. O_O

And yes, God talks in all caps

hmmmmmm if he created adam and eve then where exactly did their evolution come in.

Oh please.

You have been show countless contradictions, none of which you could refute.

Clearly you'll say anything to proselytize your religion.

For some reason it seems to be extremely important to you to believe that you have failed your created and that he had to have his son nailed to a pole to pay for your rebellious behavior.

Personally I would never believe such a dismal picture of God on pure faith alone.

Why you keep trying to sell this idea to others is beyond me. It's not even a pretty picture of God.

According to the Bible, that you claim to be the true word of God, the biblical God is a loser.

This by the Bible's on proclamation.

The biblical God is supposed to be at war with a fallen angel named Satan.

This isn't supposed to just be a game as that would imply that God is just playing with souls. So it has to be a real war, and that means that God can indeed lose and the fallen angel is indeed a real threat to the biblical God.

Clearly this Satan fellow won big time during the Great Flood when the biblical God had to flush all the sinners over to the Satan.

So that was the biblical God's first major loss. And this is according to the Bible itself.

The Bible claims that God is unchanging, but clearly he did change his tatics when he supposedly sent his son to die to pay for the sins of man. (clearly he hadn't thought of that prior to the great flood).

However, according to the Bible even Jesus himself confirmed that the biblical God is a loser.

Jesus said that the path to God's kingdom is straight, and narrow is the gate, and few will make it into the kingdom of God.

So there you have it, by Jesus' own words the vast majority of souls will not make it into the Biblical God's heaven. According to the idea that Satan is in competition for those souls then it's pretty obvious that Satan wins the vast majority of souls that the Biblical God creates.

The biblical God is a loser, and the biblical Satan is the big time winner, according to the very Bible itself.

Satan has clearly beaten God in the Bible, and clearly even with the biblical God's desperate attempt to try to save souls by having his son nailed to a pole it didn't help much.

According to the Bible, Satan wins, and God's a loser.

That's what you must believe if you believe in the Bible because that's what the book says.

You must believe that you failed God, he had to have his son butchered to pay for your rebellious attitude, and he's still losing the vast majority of the souls that he creates.

The Biblical God is a big-time loser according to its own word.

Deb, I have consistently stated on this forum that the principles behind evolutionary biology need not be in direct conflict with the bible. Not at all. In fact most Roman Catholics today are fully behind the basic theory of human anthropogenesis. Notice that God lets "the earth bring forth" the plants and animals, rather than create them directly. So maybe the creationists have it all wrong. Maybe Genesis is not so anti-evolution after all.

Genesis 1

1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

"Let the earth bring forth the living creature"

Yes, my loyal disciple, you have it all figured out.

Amen

Ive got another contradiction.

Can God be tempted?

NO

James 1:13

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.

YES

Exodus 17:2

Wherefore the people did chide with Moses, and said, Give us water that we may drink. And Moses said unto them, Why chide ye with me? wherefore do ye tempt the LORD?

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

note it says according to their kind.....each according to it's kind and if you could then know that they were as they intended for them to be.....then evolution just doesn't fit.

Now take it further even in James 1:13-16

13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. 15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

16Don't be deceived, my dear brothers. 17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.


So again take that one lil piece of scripture krisma and you can make it whatever you like...But the stone hard cold truth is that there is no contradiction......


Exodus 17:2

Wherefore the people did chide with Moses, and said, Give us water that we may drink. And Moses said unto them, Why chide ye with me? wherefore do ye tempt the LORD?

When they are speaking of this Krisma it is not being used in the context that the Lord is really being tested like you are thinking of it....It is saying it in the context that the whole Israelite community was was questioning that God would provide for them.

See this is what I am always saying to you people....you can't take one teeny itty bit of scripture and then twist it to fit what you want...You have to take the scripture as a whole and read it as such...read the whole scripture Exodus 17:1-4 and then you will see the context in which it is used and in the right way. NO CONTRADICTION

No surprise answer there....

I wouldnt say it in quite those words


You are starting to understand what I was meaning when I said there is a God in Heaven and a God of the Earth.

And these also?

Deuteronomy 6:16
Ye shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Matthew 4:7, Luke 4:12
Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Acts 15:10
Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

How come you are allowed to twist and we arent?

No contradictions

Well according to you, God can not be tempted? Alright if you fail to see the contradiction there, I will move on. I keep notes as you are well aware..

Did Jesus baptize anyone?

YES


John 3:22
After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

NO


John 4:2
Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples.

Imagine if we could take two verses and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they didn't contradict one another. Those who don't want to believe won't accept that, they will simply look for more "contradictions". But the most likely outcome is that no matter how clear the exegesis, they will continue to insist that a contradiction exists. If you show them that the words were mistranslated, they will insist that the original documents are invalid evidence and continue to use the poorly translated version.

This is what Jesus was talking about in Matthew 7:6. Some people will refuse all logic and reason to maintain their hatred of the Bible. It's time to kick the dust off your feet and move on.