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The Republicans didn't support Health-Care Reform because the Anti-American, Republican Party doesn't support Americans Health and Well Being. They only support their controllers. Big Business and Insurance Companies. FALSE |
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The Obama Surprises
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Eamon Javers – Thu Dec 31, 1:17 pm ET
Think back to December 2008. Barack Obama had just won a sweeping electoral victory, and the press was speculating about the ways in which Obama had changed America: high-tech campaigns, the post-racial future, even bipartisanship. But Barack Obama’s first year as president wasn’t always exactly what Americans expected. The very first thing that surprised us about Obama was just how quickly he let go of the animosity of the Democratic presidential primary against Hillary Clinton — offering the job as secretary of state just weeks after being elected president. Since then, the first year of Barack Obama’s presidency has been one of near-constant surprises, as the nation learned even more about its new commander in chief, who after all, had been a largely unknown figure just a few years before. Here are the 10 biggest surprises of 2009: It’s possible to say “no” to Barack Obama In the heady post-election days, Obama looked unstoppable after beating John McCain. More than a million giddy Americans would head to the National Mall for his swearing-in ceremony. Obama used that superheated mojo to get people to do what he wanted. Soon, he was pushing through a massive $787 billion stimulus package over the futile objections of congressional Republicans and firing Rick Waggoner, the CEO of General Motors. It seemed as though he could do almost anything he wanted. But almost as quickly as it came, the aura of invincibility faded. It began gradually — in May, the Senate voted to block funding for the closure of the prison at Guantanamo Bay, rejecting a core Obama campaign promise. Then his poll numbers started to come down to earth, declining from 67 percent approval in May to 52 percent today, according to Gallup. And in October, perhaps the first direct “no” the president had heard: The International Olympic Committee rejected Obama’s personal entreaties to award the 2016 Olympics to his hometown of Chicago. And just like that, it had become possible to say no to Barack Obama. Then in December, Obama summoned the nation’s top bankers to the White House to urge them to stop their lobbyists from blocking financial regulatory reform on Capitol Hill. But in the days that followed, it became clear that the bankers had no intention at all of changing their lobbying tactics on the bill. He’s more like George W. Bush that you thought Barack Obama denounced the Bush administration time and time again on the campaign trail in 2008. But in 2009, he suddenly found a surprising number of ways to agree with his predecessor. Obama initially invoked Bush-ian logic in rejecting a watchdog group’s request for a list of health care executives who had meetings at the White House — sounding a lot like the Bush administration fighting to keep its energy task force meetings secret. The Obama White House relented in part after being sued and released the names of several executives. Since then, Obama has begun to regularly release details on many of the people who visit the executive mansion. On the campaign trail, Obama also bashed the Bush administration’s 2003 deal with the pharmaceutical industry that blocked the government from negotiating prices with the nation’s drug makers. But during the summer, his administration gave the drug makers the same deal if they’d back his health care plan. And the president continued his George W. Bush impression when he announced a “surge” of forces in Afghanistan — just as Bush had done in Iraq just over two years earlier. Which leads us to … The anti-war candidate is not always against war Part of Obama’s appeal in the 2008 presidential primary was that he had opposed the Iraq war from the outset — a position he used to flog Clinton, who had voted for the unpopular war. As a result, Obama attracted a following brimming with pacifist liberals who didn’t want war in any situation. They largely overlooked Obama’s campaign trail distinction between Iraq, which he said was a war of choice, and Afghanistan, which was thrust upon the nation by the Sept.11 attacks. But they couldn’t ignore that distinction after Obama announced he would commit to a Bush-style “surge” in Afghanistan. “This is not the change we voted for,” lamented the liberal talk radio host Bill Press after Obama announced his decision in a December speech at West Point. No-drama Obama? Still (largely) drama free On the campaign trail, Team Obama earned a reputation for being remarkably free of the kind of internal dissent that shredded morale inside the Clinton team. Not many savvy Washington pundits, however, expected that to translate into the White House — where even low-level staffers tend to think about their historical legacy and plot the chapter headings of their tell-all books. Even the famously buttoned-down Bush administration, after all, had broken down into near open warfare between the Donald Rumsfeld’s Pentagon and Colin Powell’s State Department. What’s remarkable is how little tension there has been within the new administration. No-drama Obama continues to hold. Sure, there have been cracks in the façade — the unceremonious dumping of White House Counsel Greg Craig seemed a lot like the old Washington. Reporters secretly root for an open break in the Rahm Emanuel/Valerie Jarrett relationship. And Obama’s call for accountability in the case of the would-be bomber on Christmas Day sure sounded like someone’s head is going to roll. But so far, Obama has presided over an unusually harmonious White House. The press may love him, but he doesn’t love them back At rallies and speeches, Obama uses a stock phrase whenever someone in the crowd shouts out “I love you” to him. “I love you back,” Obama says. But not always. The national press has been all but shouting “I love you” to Obama all year long as they place him on an astonishing number of magazine covers and send camera crews to the White House for day-in-the-life features and gauzy Christmas specials. And Obama is not saying “I love you back” to the media. Instead, he offers bracing criticism, as he did Sept. 9 at the memorial service for the beloved CBS news anchor Walter Cronkite: “We also remember and celebrate the journalism that Walter practiced,” Obama said. “It’s a standard that's a little bit harder to find today.” Obama wasn’t done: “What happened today?” is replaced with "Who won today?” he said of today’s journalism. “The public debate cheapens. The public trust falters.” That’s tough stuff. And although much of the media may think it’s involved in a love affair with the glamorous young president, the truth they may have to face is this: He’s just not that into you. The incredible shrinking Obama online machine There’s no arguing that the Obama team used technology to fundamentally change the way American presidential campaigns will be run in the future, making astonishing leaps in fundraising capability and in grass-roots organizing ability. But somehow, despite the predictions of many political sages, they’ve been unable to use technology to equally overhaul the presidency itself. A campaign that had announced the selection of Biden as Obama’s running mate first over e-mail and text message became a White House in which Obama had to struggle against security and legal concerns to carry a BlackBerry. And although the White House has held Internet town halls, posts regularly on its blog, and updates its Flickr feed regularly, the Internet piece of the presidency feels more like an add-on than something core to the Obama administration’s success. That may be because the Internet itself is not as well-suited to governing as it is to campaigning. When Obama held a jobs summit at the White House in December, his website urged people to hold their own summits — right at home. “Get your family, friends, and neighbors together and help get America back on track,” read the White House’s pitch. “Fill out the form below if you’re interested in hosting a jobs forum in your community.” Somehow, the effort fell flat. The message masters muddled the health care message On the campaign trail, Obama pounded in a one-word winning message: Change. In the health care debate, though, Obama never seemed to be able to settle on a single reason why Americans should back his plan. First, he talked about health care reform; then he modified that to “health insurance reform.” He talked about fixing health care and fixing the economy, to “stability and security” for people who already have insurance. For a while there, he talked about the “moral obligation” Americans had to help the uninsured. None of it was very clear. And that zigging and zagging may be one reason why liberals and conservatives both seem outraged about the (semi) final product. The post-partisan president meets the vast right wing Obama began the year with a bipartisan flourish — he invited several Republicans to the White House to watch the Super Bowl. It’s been all downhill since then, as fraying tempers over the deficit, health care, the stimulus and a host of other issues have dashed Obama’s hopes of service as a post-partisan leader. By September, things looked so different that former President Bill Clinton was once again talking about the “vast right wing conspiracy.” Obama himself seemed to acknowledge the reality of the challenges he faces in getting the two parties to work together after a bipartisan meeting on the economy at the White House on Dec. 9. He didn’t seem to hold out much hope for cooperation after a session in which party leaders pointed fingers at each other. “I'm confident we can put our economic troubles behind us,” Obama said. “But it's going to require some work and cooperation and a seriousness of purpose here in Washington.” His biggest diplomatic coup was the “beer summit” One of Obama’s biggest selling points as a candidate was his ability to bring the U.S. and the world a little closer together after the strained diplomatic years of the Bush administration. But although he turned out 250,000 screaming Germans to hear a campaign speech in Berlin, Obama has had surprisingly little luck turning that worldwide popularity into gains on the diplomatic front. He’s had trouble getting big contributions of new troops from allies in Afghanistan. The jury is still out on whether he can rally the world against Iran. And although he got good reviews on several fronts, including his nuclear proliferation speech at the United Nations in September, the unlikely highlight of the Obama diplomatic effort in 2009 was the unlikely “beer summit” between Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and police Sgt. James Crowley of Cambridge, Mass. The event was something of a White House make-up operation, as the president tried to undo the political damage from his statement that the Cambridge police had acted “stupidly” in arresting Gates this summer — comments that put the president squarely in the center of an unnecessary racially tinged national debate. The moment was hokey and contrived, but it seemed to get the two men talking and successfully defused the controversy. He likes golf more than he likes basketball This one, we’ve got to admit, we didn’t see coming. Obama’s public image is ultracool: He listens to Jay-Z! He pals around with superstars! And his basketball playing — images of which were carefully doled out on the campaign trail — made him seem young and vigorous. His slick behind-the-back pass at a North Carolina Tar Heels practice gave him b-ball cred nationwide. But as president, we’ve seen a lot less of Obama playing basketball and a lot more of him playing golf. And that’s an image that reminds voters a lot more of Dwight Eisenhower than Michael Jordan. To be fair to the president, he has a basketball court at the White House, where cameras are not typically permitted. So it’s still possible that he shoots hoops more than he tees off. But we know a lot about the president’s golf habit, because the White House press corps loads up into a motorcade every time he hits an area golf course, which he’s done often since Inauguration. And that’s a side of him that we didn’t see on the campaign trail at all. http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091231/pl_politico/31071 |
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I had no problem with incremental changes. They could have done some things to move towards a better system without coming up with a 2000 page bill that creates a total mess and raises taxes and premiums. I don't know about you, but I think that we are in a serious financial crisis, that isn't going away anytime soon. It doesn't matter to me who is in power, because both parties have no regard for the debt or how the hell we are going to stop the massive deficit spending. 2010 is going to bring the largest budget deficit in history. Right now the government will only bring in enough money to cover the mandatory spending. The financial implications of this bill and all the other bills they have passed and want to pass is going to continue the insolvent operating conditions. I have a serious problem with that. If we were sitting on a balanced budget or they had the will to make the cuts necessary to fund this without raising taxes or expanding the debt, I would be on your side. Unfortunately, that is not the case. The financial solvency of this country should top all of our priorities. Yup, once again we've fooled ourself that running deficits won't eventually turn catastrophic. |
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40. There are 100 members in the Senate, 58 Dems, 2 Independents, and 40 Repub. I know there are 100 in the senate. There is a 20 vote difference. 60-40=20 The 2 so called independents caucus with the dems so its 60 votes. 60 votes to 40 votes and they can't pass the bill their president wants.. Pretty pathetic.. They did pass it! LMAO It is funny.. Obama wants a single payer system and ends up with this mess.. You have set the bar of victory pretty low, my friend.. Yeah, well when you have 40 Senators who won't participate, because they don't care about the health and well being of the people, this is what happens. This is a start and the Republicans will now be forced to live up to their misinformation campaign. The truth will now be made clear about their lies. Then we can get rid of more Republicans and make some real progress towards giving our gov back to the people. And the reason that republicans did not participate is from day one it's all been about the public option - basically, an effort so that the government could take over of health care. Republicans will never support such. Seriously, ever think about what kind of bill the debate could have produced if the dems had not insisted on that. I guess not..... |
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Besides not having a plan, They, Republicans, stripped this one down to what it is, and still all 40 voted against it. If just 5 would have voted their conscience they could have told Leiberman and Nelson to suck egg. If just 5 Republicans would have supported Health-Care reform, the Nebraska deal wouldn't have been necessary, and we would still have a bill with a public option. The Repubs whine, but they whine anyway, and are at fault for any deal making done to get the necessary votes to pass the bill. BS on top of BS The republicans didn't strip the health care bill down.... All 40 republicans have been against the bill from the beginning. The dems stripped the bill of the public option.....and still had to buy democratic votes to get what's left of it passed. Democrats are solely responsible for this bill. Republicans were steadfast against the bill from day one and still are. It is interesting to note than insurers stocks have skyrocketed once it was anticipated that the dems couldn't hold all of their 60 votes together with their original bill and that dems would accept a watered down bill no matter what the consequences just to say we passed health care. Keep drinking the eggnog.... |
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Isn't it odd how people only read what they want to read in someone else' posts?? I have never defended Bush. Nor have I defended the Republican Party. What I haven't done, is kowtow to Dems and President Obama and praise everything he has done. Mainly because I haven't actually seen HIM doing much of anything. I wholeheartedly agree that things got all fouled up over the last 8 years. But I do not agree that the " solutions " the Dems have come up with are the right way to go about fixing things. I don't see how you can say you haven't seen him do anything. First and very importantly, he has improved our Nations image in the world. Moving our military's attention away from an illegal occupation of Iraq back on track to focus on the enemy who attacked us on Sept. 11, 2001. He has made great strides toward closing Gitmo and removing the tarnish to our reputation of illegal snatch and grab arrests, and torture chambers by our nations Intell agencies. His policy of the Fed investing in the Nations Banks averted an economic collapse, and following up with new regulatory control will help to ensure a stronger National Banking system. The Stimulus bill he put forth shortly after taking office, while not fixing the problem he inherited, undoubtably slowed the unemployment from getting worse. He has refocused our Nation on the climate change disaster that looms in the near future, and refocused our attention to weaning the nations energy needs away from imported foreign oil. Everywhere you look now you see investments, both Fed and Private, into green enrgy technologies. He has focused his attention on the Nations health-care needs and the millions of uninsured Americans. Attacking Insurance practices that have made our Nations cost for health care a world symbol of waste and inefficency. Still hitting the eggnog r u.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091231/pl_politico/31071 |
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Roll Over Or Get Tuff
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During and before the illegal invasion of Iraq, Rummy and the current admin gave orders, talking points, to "Expert" war commentators. They were all over the dial, not just FOX. Their only purpose was to spread propaganda for Rummy and the Admin. I think it's important to recognize FOX as a propaganda tool, but we should not stop with that. We should look at who they represent and who influenced the FCC to waive American law and allow Murdoch to broadcast here. Esp, since his history before then was already tainted. Who decided it was in the public's best interests to allow it, and what was their motive? Absolutely! The Republican Party is a danger to America! Friend, U have definitely been in to too much eggnog over the holidays!!!! |
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I'm betting we will get that border fence when terroist finally enter via the Mexican border and create a massive event -
TALK ABOUT NOT CONNECTING THE DOTS.... |
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GOP seizes on terror issue
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De Mint has raised an interesting question - if TSA is unionized what happens when they go on strike?
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GOP seizes on terror issue
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Nice work, Fanta...Republicans had their chance to muck up the works. It's time to play fair. Give Obama his day at the helm. He shouldn't have to waste so much time trying to please the ghosts of the past. God they're annoying. All they do is pick pick pick. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is laughing their @$$e$ off, because we can't get it together. Like it or not, Democracy won this round. Back off and quit your dam whining (to all the snarling RedVested Dogs). Full body scans are not facist. That's like saying campfires are the only politically correct way to cook meat. What's the matter? Is showing what you got making it too hard for you to destroy the world. We sooorrry. Darn Republicans. They are only concerned with themselves. They could care less or the people. Darn Democrats. They are only concerned with spending trillions of dollars over and above what the Treasury takes in. They could care less about our children having to pay a price for it. |
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GOP seizes on terror issue
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BS! It's just more political posturing by the Repubs. The Admin of the TSA can't change policy. Obama doesn't even have the power. ????Congress maybe???? Only you and dems could take the facts and distort them this way.....IT WAS EIGHT MONTHS BEFORE OBAMA EVEN NOMINATED ANYONE TO HEAD UP THE TSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE NOMINATION DIDNT EVEN GET TO THE SENATE UNTIL NOVEMBER. So DEMINT HAS BLOCKED IT FOR ONLY ONE MONTH.....that is sure not delay and obstruction to the degree that you are trying to pin on the republicans over this matter. |
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GOP seizes on terror issue
Edited by
crickstergo
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Tue 12/29/09 09:36 AM
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Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.
Hold = Delay and obstruct. Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.
Delay and Obstruct. 8 MONTHS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.......most of Obama's previous nominations have been tax cheats or lobbyist so certainly the republicans may want some time to look at the nomination. Since 9/11 there have been 5 different people in charge of the TSA! 8? Yes, but this guy, Erroll Southers Southers currently serves as Los Angeles World Airports Police Department Assistant Chief for Homeland Security and Intelligence, where he helps manage the largest airport police department in the United States. He is also Associate Director at the Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events at the University of Southern California. Southers brings extensive recognition within the international counterterrorism and aviation security communities to DHS. Prior to joining the University of Southern California faculty, Southers’ public safety career included service as Deputy Director of Homeland Security for the State of California and positions at every level of government, ranging from Police Officer with the Santa Monica Police Department to Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Southers is also a senior fellow at the University of California, Los Angeles School of Public Affairs and holds a B.A. from Brown University as well as an M.P.A. from the University of Southern California, where he is currently pursuing a doctorate in Policy, Planning and Development. , was turned down over what? Politics concerning a Labor Union? Give me a break. current policy is that security screeners are not unionized....the refusal of Southers to answer that question and maybe reverse policy is relevant. |
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GOP seizes on terror issue
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What a timeline....So the delay is really all Obama's fault
"An interim chief has been running the TSA since January. Obama nominated Southers in September to fill the position. A Senate committee forwarded the nomination to the full Senate in November, and DeMint then put a hold on the nomination, a procedural move that can block a vote." DeMint said he was troubled by Southers' refusal to answer questions about whether he would recommend that TSA workers unionize. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tsa29-2009dec29,0,3060401.story |
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GOP seizes on terror issue
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Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.
Hold = Delay and obstruct. Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.
Delay and Obstruct. 8 MONTHS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.......most of Obama's previous nominations have been tax cheats or lobbyist so certainly the republicans may want some time to look at the nomination. |
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GOP seizes on terror issue
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I'll have to check into this one later but here is what keeps cropping up.....
It took the Obama administration more than eight months to nominate anyone to lead the Transportation Security Administration and the Customs and Border Protection agency. |
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First it was all Bush's fault...now you have progressed to it being the whole damn republican parties fault..... Merry Christmas!!! |
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So it Really was a Bribe
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"This is the way Senate leadership chose to handle it. I never asked for 100 percent funding." Ben Nelson
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Thread dead! Move along folks nothing to see hear but BS! \ And mostly from you. You blame everything on Bush You dismiss a unified 40 senators as obstructionist You accuse any contrary debate to your opinion as coming from blogs And you refuse to see that the healthcare bill is lined with corruption involving special deals for votes. |
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The big difference is that only 28% of the people supported Bush's Policies! Obama will be there soon...soon!!! Do you really think so? And, Why? To more and more it is obvious....others are "Still in Denial" |
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Another Conundrum!
Edited by
crickstergo
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Wed 12/23/09 10:14 PM
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All that means is it can be removed when the House and Senate negotiate the final bill. That bill will only require a majority to pass. That's a win-win, because no one but Nelson wanted in the bill to begin with. He said it was at the request of his Republican Gov. Go figure. you still haven't found the whole truth, have you. According to Nelson, he didn't ask for the deal, it was offered to him. You know what that means, it was a bribe. "This is the way Senate leadership chose to handle it. I never asked for 100 percent funding" Ben Nelson According to Nelson, he asked for an exemption from the medicaid expansion. |
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