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Topic: GOP seizes on terror issue
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Tue 12/29/09 06:53 AM
Republicans have wasted no time in attacking Democrats on intelligence and screening failures leading up to the failed Christmas Day bombing of Flight 253 — a significant departure from the calibrated, less partisan responses that have followed other recent terrorist activity.

The strategy — coming as the Republican leadership seeks to exploit Democratic weaknesses heading into the 2010 midterms — is in many ways a natural for a party that views protecting the U.S. homeland as its ideological raison d’etre and electoral franchise.

President Obama’s GOP critics have been emboldened during the past 48 hours by the stumbling initial response of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who spent Monday retracting her Sunday claim that “the system worked” in the aftermath of Umar Farouk Abdulmuttalab’s near takedown of a jet ferrying nearly 300 people from Amsterdam to Detroit.

“In the past six weeks, you’ve had the Fort Hood attack, the D.C. Five and now the attempted attack on the plane in Detroit … and they all underscored the clear philosophical difference between the administration and us,” said Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee.

“I think Secretary Napolitano and the rest of the Obama administration view their role as law enforcement, first responders dealing with the aftermath of an attack,” Hoekstra told POLITICO. “And we believe in a forward-looking approach to stopping these attacks before they happen.”

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) went even further, telling FOX News that the Christmas attack proved President Obama’s talk-to-your-enemies approach might actually be encouraging terrorists.

“[S]oft talk about engagement, closing Gitmo, these things are not going to appease the terrorists,” he said. “They’re going to keep coming after us, and we can’t have politics as usual in Washington, and I’m afraid that’s what we’ve got right now with airport security.”

Obama didn’t address his critics during a brief appearance in Hawaii on Monday, saying only that "the American people should be assured that we are doing everything in our power to keep you and your family safe and secure during this busy holiday season. … As Americans, we will never give into fear and division."

A White House spokesman says the administration wants to avoid making the national security and terrorism a partisan issue.

“The president doesn't think we should play politics with issues like these. He hasn't. His response has been fact-based and appropriate and will continue to be as such,” said deputy White House press secretary Bill Burton.

But other Democrats say the GOP’s yuletide political offensive could backfire on Republicans, putting the spotlight on the party’s own less-than-spotless record on homeland security.

Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.

“Considering that this group has been playing politics with the TSA for months, their new-found concern about safety seems a bit contrived,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), who acknowledged “legitimate beefs” about lapses leading up to the Christmas Day bombing attempt.

DeMint says he’s blocking Southers because the top cop at Los Angeles International Airport hasn’t vowed to block TSA unionization. And spokesman Wes Denton said the agency is better off headless than with big labor running the nation’s airports.

“This is an important debate because many Americans don't want someone running the TSA who stands ready to give union bosses the power to veto or delay future security measures at our airports,” Denton said.

DeMint isn’t the only Republican raising concerns that Abdulmuttalab was allowed to board the plane despite being placed on a list of potentially dangerous foreign nationals and that he managed to escape detection despite carrying a large amount of explosive powder sewn into his underwear.

Early Monday morning, the House Republican Conference blasted an e-mail offering up a half-dozen GOP lawmakers to discuss national security — and to criticize the Obama White House.

Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), the top Homeland Security Committee Republican, criticized the Obama administration for not going public more quickly to reassure Americans that the skies are safe.

Hoekstra, for his part, blamed the president for “downplaying” the threat of terrorism and slammed the White House for failing to provide detailed bipartisan briefings.

Democrats, on the other hand, say they have plenty of ammunition for a homeland security counterattack.

Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.

The no voters cited a procedural dispute over the appropriations process. They included Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Hoekstra and a who’s who of big-name House Republicans: Reps. Mike Pence, Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Joe Wilson (R-SC).

The conference bill included more than $4 billion for "screening operations," including $1.1 billion in funding for explosives detection systems, with $778 million intended for buying and installing the systems.

“It’s a base political calculation,” said one senior House Democratic aide. “It’s risky to play politics with something like this. The morning after [the attempted bombing], Republicans had already drawn a bright line on this.”

In June, both parties overwhelmingly backed Utah Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who inserted an amendment into the House's massive Homeland Security appropriations bill barring the use of full-body image scans as "primary" screening tools at airports.

The amendment, which died in the Senate, passed the House on a bipartisan 310 to 118 vote, with conservative libertarians joining liberals, all decrying the scans as a major invasion of privacy.

It would also have given passengers the option of getting a pat-down — which might have also detected the Christmas bomb — while banning the storage and copying of the images, which show a virtual picture of a person's naked body.

The measure was little-noticed at the time, but it could have a big impact if the Obama administration follows through on its pledge to increase such imaging, which experts say could have detected the explosives hidden on the body of the would-be airplane bomber.

Chaffetz, for his part, doesn’t regret the amendment, telling the Salt Lake Tribune, "It's a difficult balance between protecting our civil liberties and protecting the safety of people on airplanes," adding, “I believe there's technology out there that can identify bomb-type materials without necessarily overly invading our privacy."

In the coming days, GOP criticism of the administration’s actions may give way to a louder, if more decorous din from Democrats questioning security procedures here and abroad.

A handful of key congressional chairmen have already scheduled hearings to see what did go wrong on that Northwestern Airlines flight.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), who chairs the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, says his panel will investigate how the attempted bomber slipped through security and screening procedures.

"I view Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab as a terrorist who evaded our homeland security defenses and who would have killed hundreds of people if the explosives he tried to detonate had worked," Lieberman said.

"What we know about the Abdulmutallab case raises two big, urgent questions that we are holding this hearing to answer: Why aren't airline passengers flying into the U.S. checked against the broadest terrorist database, and why isn't whole body scanning technology that can detect explosives in wider use?"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091228/pl_politico/31016

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Tue 12/29/09 06:56 AM
The Fat;


“The president doesn't think we should play politics with issues like these. He hasn't. His response has been fact-based and appropriate and will continue to be as such,” said deputy White House press secretary Bill Burton.

But other Democrats say the GOP’s yuletide political offensive could backfire on Republicans, putting the spotlight on the party’s own less-than-spotless record on homeland security.

Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.



And,

Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.

The no voters cited a procedural dispute over the appropriations process. They included Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Hoekstra and a who’s who of big-name House Republicans: Reps. Mike Pence, Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Joe Wilson (R-SC).

The conference bill included more than $4 billion for "screening operations," including $1.1 billion in funding for explosives detection systems, with $778 million intended for buying and installing the systems.

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Tue 12/29/09 07:01 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 12/29/09 07:02 AM
The Vote no, delaying, obstructionist tactics of the Anti-American Party are making Americans less safe.

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Tue 12/29/09 07:58 AM
"What we know about the Abdulmutallab case raises two big, urgent questions that we are holding this hearing to answer: Why aren't airline passengers flying into the U.S. checked against the broadest terrorist database, and why isn't whole body scanning technology that can detect explosives in wider use?"

Because such an action would be inefficient, fascist, unconsititutional, and all-around stupid. :tongue:

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Tue 12/29/09 07:58 AM

The Vote no, delaying, obstructionist tactics of the Anti-American Party are making Americans less safe.


Which party is that? There are 2 parties who can be described that way. laugh

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Tue 12/29/09 08:12 AM

"What we know about the Abdulmutallab case raises two big, urgent questions that we are holding this hearing to answer: Why aren't airline passengers flying into the U.S. checked against the broadest terrorist database, and why isn't whole body scanning technology that can detect explosives in wider use?"

Because such an action would be inefficient, fascist, unconsititutional, and all-around stupid. :tongue:


How do you figure that?

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Tue 12/29/09 08:12 AM


The Vote no, delaying, obstructionist tactics of the Anti-American Party are making Americans less safe.


Which party is that? There are 2 parties who can be described that way. laugh


There's only one party which fits all the criteria.

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Tue 12/29/09 08:14 AM
I'll have to check into this one later but here is what keeps cropping up.....

It took the Obama administration more than eight months to nominate anyone to lead the Transportation Security Administration and the Customs and Border Protection agency.

noway


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Tue 12/29/09 08:16 AM
Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.


Hold = Delay and obstruct.

Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.


Delay and Obstruct.


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Tue 12/29/09 08:24 AM



The Vote no, delaying, obstructionist tactics of the Anti-American Party are making Americans less safe.


Which party is that? There are 2 parties who can be described that way. laugh


There's only one party which fits all the criteria.


Nah, both major parties fit those criteria depending on which is in the majority. That's one reason I don't belong to either of them-they're both laughing stocks! laugh rofl

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Tue 12/29/09 08:25 AM

Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.


Hold = Delay and obstruct.

Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.


Delay and Obstruct.




laugh laugh laugh

8 MONTHS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.......most of Obama's previous nominations have been tax cheats or lobbyist so certainly the republicans may want some time to look at the nomination.

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Tue 12/29/09 08:26 AM

I'll have to check into this one later but here is what keeps cropping up.....

It took the Obama administration more than eight months to nominate anyone to lead the Transportation Security Administration and the Customs and Border Protection agency.

noway




Southers was nominated in Sept.

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Tue 12/29/09 08:26 AM
Republicans....Democrats...both self-seeking gang mentalities that need to be elinimated...we need publicly funded elections so some of the independent canidates actually stand a chance..imo


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Tue 12/29/09 08:33 AM
What a timeline....So the delay is really all Obama's fault

"An interim chief has been running the TSA since January. Obama nominated Southers in September to fill the position. A Senate committee forwarded the nomination to the full Senate in November, and DeMint then put a hold on the nomination, a procedural move that can block a vote."

DeMint said he was troubled by Southers' refusal to answer questions about whether he would recommend that TSA workers unionize.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tsa29-2009dec29,0,3060401.story

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Tue 12/29/09 08:54 AM
Ah, yes.

I just love the " No matter what happens, BLAME THE REPUBLICANS " mentality.

Lemme ask you this, Fanta.

Even if the explosives detection equipment was in place....would it have been in place in AMSTERDAM where the plane was coming from???

Does Homeland Security now have the power to force every international airport to place and maintain that equipment on the premises??

If not, then what, exactly, is the point??

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Tue 12/29/09 09:01 AM

Ah, yes.

I just love the " No matter what happens, BLAME THE REPUBLICANS " mentality.

Lemme ask you this, Fanta.

Even if the explosives detection equipment was in place....would it have been in place in AMSTERDAM where the plane was coming from???

Does Homeland Security now have the power to force every international airport to place and maintain that equipment on the premises??

If not, then what, exactly, is the point??


Yes!
They do have the power.

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Tue 12/29/09 09:05 AM


Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.


Hold = Delay and obstruct.

Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.


Delay and Obstruct.




laugh laugh laugh

8 MONTHS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.......most of Obama's previous nominations have been tax cheats or lobbyist so certainly the republicans may want some time to look at the nomination.



Since 9/11 there have been 5 different people in charge of the TSA!

8?
Yes, but this guy,

Erroll Southers

Southers currently serves as Los Angeles World Airports Police Department Assistant Chief for Homeland Security and Intelligence, where he helps manage the largest airport police department in the United States. He is also Associate Director at the Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events at the University of Southern California. Southers brings extensive recognition within the international counterterrorism and aviation security communities to DHS.

Prior to joining the University of Southern California faculty, Southers’ public safety career included service as Deputy Director of Homeland Security for the State of California and positions at every level of government, ranging from Police Officer with the Santa Monica Police Department to Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Southers is also a senior fellow at the University of California, Los Angeles School of Public Affairs and holds a B.A. from Brown University as well as an M.P.A. from the University of Southern California, where he is currently pursuing a doctorate in Policy, Planning and Development.

, was turned down over what?
Politics concerning a Labor Union?

Give me a break.

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Tue 12/29/09 09:07 AM
Then why haven't they done it BEFORE???

Like I said. Our Government is reactionary rather than taking the initiative.

Knee jerk reactions get absolutely nothing done.

Blaming the Republicans for something like this is simply absurd.

If the Dept of Homeland Security HAS the power to do what I asked, then it should have been done long ago.

What stopped them from doing it when Bush was the president??

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Tue 12/29/09 09:30 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 12/29/09 09:47 AM
I've been reading up on the history of the TSA.
Specifically the lists.


The Republicans started it.

Let the facts be known.


Republicans have wasted no time in attacking Democrats on intelligence and screening failures leading up to the failed Christmas Day bombing of Flight 253 — a significant departure from the calibrated, less partisan responses that have followed other recent terrorist activity.



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Tue 12/29/09 09:35 AM
Edited by crickstergo on Tue 12/29/09 09:36 AM



Exhibit A: DeMint’s controversial “hold” on Obama’s choice to lead the Transportation Safety Administration, Erroll Southers, which has left the agency leaderless during a critical period of reappraisal and potential reorganization.


Hold = Delay and obstruct.

Over the summer, 108 House Republicans voted against the final conference report of the 2010 appropriation bill for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for explosives detection systems and other aviation security measures.


Delay and Obstruct.




laugh laugh laugh

8 MONTHS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.......most of Obama's previous nominations have been tax cheats or lobbyist so certainly the republicans may want some time to look at the nomination.



Since 9/11 there have been 5 different people in charge of the TSA!

8?
Yes, but this guy,

Erroll Southers

Southers currently serves as Los Angeles World Airports Police Department Assistant Chief for Homeland Security and Intelligence, where he helps manage the largest airport police department in the United States. He is also Associate Director at the Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events at the University of Southern California. Southers brings extensive recognition within the international counterterrorism and aviation security communities to DHS.

Prior to joining the University of Southern California faculty, Southers’ public safety career included service as Deputy Director of Homeland Security for the State of California and positions at every level of government, ranging from Police Officer with the Santa Monica Police Department to Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Southers is also a senior fellow at the University of California, Los Angeles School of Public Affairs and holds a B.A. from Brown University as well as an M.P.A. from the University of Southern California, where he is currently pursuing a doctorate in Policy, Planning and Development.

, was turned down over what?
Politics concerning a Labor Union?

Give me a break.


current policy is that security screeners are not unionized....the refusal of Southers to answer that question and maybe reverse policy is relevant.

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