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Fri 04/18/08 06:51 AM
Mean comes in many forms, we all say things the wrong way from time to time, but it's the intentional mean that bothers me.....

Absolutely wonderful write!flowerforyou drinker drinker drinker

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Fri 04/18/08 06:40 AM
flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Fri 04/18/08 06:39 AM
Yes indeed, a very good writeflowerforyou

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Fri 04/18/08 06:35 AM
They are all so wonderful I couldn't pick a favoriteflowerforyou

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Fri 04/18/08 06:28 AM
Great writeflowerforyou

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Fri 04/18/08 06:23 AM
Very nice write
flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Wed 04/16/08 04:19 PM
they were a warlike, backwards culture. Sorry to tell you but had they just put their differences aside, and fought together they would have driven the white man back into the ocean.

noway :angry: explode mad huh


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Ironically when Lieutenant Custer disobeyed his orders
And attacked instead of favoring peace
And sealed the fate of the Indian race
He made "The Little Big Horn" his last disaster
Outnumbered by the combined Indian Nation
Bent on revenge for the many Indian deaths
And protecting the tens of thousands in their camp
Two Thousand plus warriors came from every side
There was no stopping Crazy Horse and Chief Hunkapa
Leading the Cheyenne, plus Sans Arcs, Miniconjoux
Oglala Sioux, Blackfeet and the Sioux,
It took twenty minutes to annihilate "Yellow Hairs" Cavalry....

Albert Gazeley



Tecumseh - Shawnee 1927
"The white people who are trying to make us over into their image, they want us to be what they call assimilated, bringing the Indians into the mainstream and destroying our own way of life and our own cultural patterns. They believe we should be contented like those whose concept of happiness is materialistic and greedy, which is very different from our way.We want freedom from the white man rather than to be integrated. We don't want any part of the establishment, we want to be free to raise our children in our religion, in our ways, to be able to hunt and fish and to live in peace. We don't want power, we don't want to be congressmen, bankers, we want to be ourselves. We want to have our heritage, because we are the owners of this land and because we belong here.The white man says there is freedom and justice for all. We have had "freedom and justice," and that is why we have been almost exterminated. We shall not forget this."

...We were told, if any white people mean to harm you, hold up these flags and you will then be safe from all danger. We did this in good faith. But what happened? Our beloved chief Moluntha stood with the American flag in front of him and that very peace treaty in his hand, but his head was chopped by a American officer, and that American officer was never punished...

...here is how the Americans have treated us well: They have killed many Shawnee, many Winnebagoes, many Miamis, many Delawares, and have taken land from them. When they killed them, no American ever was punished, not one.It is you, the Americans, by such bad deeds, who push the red men to do mischief. You do not want unity among the tribes, and you destroy it. You try to make differences between them. We, their leaders, wish them to unite and consider their land the common property of all, but you try to keep them from this. You separate the tribes and deal with them that way, one by one, and advise them not to come into this union. Your states have set an example of forming a union among all the Fires, why should you censure the Indians for following that example?








One Apache chief made the following statements

"Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi
nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi"
"May the Great Spirit always give you blessings"

"Ho! Mitakuye Oyasin"
"We Are All Related -our Earthly meeting is surly fated"

"Under the sky - all living things are one"

"God meant us all to be the same" -

"There is one God looking down on all"

The Apache Chief ?
Geronimo

Kill ANY mans wife, then child and see if he doesn't go "wild"






The Onondaga -Iroquois- councel opening (part of the Iroquois constitution) which was posted on our family wall for as long as my great great grandfather could remember, in part reads;
...open each council by greeting their cousin lords, and expressing their gratitude to them. And they shall offer thanks to the earth where all people dwell - To the streams of water, the pools, the springs, and the lakes; to the maize and the fruits - To the medicinal herbs and the trees, to the forest trees for their usefulness, to the animals that serve as food and who offer their pelts as clothing - To the great winds and the lesser wind; to the Thunderers; and the sun, the mighty warrior; to the moon - To the messengers of the Great Spirit who dwells in the skies above, who gives all thing useful to men, who is the source and the ruler of health and life. Then shall the Onondaga lords declare the council open.

That was just to open the council.






Try to do something for your people - something difficult. Have pity on your people and love them. If a man is poor, help him. Give him and his family food, give them whatever they ask for. If there is discord among your people, intercede.Take your sacred pipe and walk into their midst. Die if necessary in your attempt to bring about reconciliation. Then, when order has been restored and they see you lying dead on the ground, still holding in you hand the sacred pipe, the symbol of peace and reconciliation, then assuredly will they know that you have been a real chief.

Winnebago lesson





"Wakan Tankan Nici Un" in Cherokee
Means - May the Great Spirit walk with thee



Yup sounds like "backwards culture" to me huh



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Tue 04/15/08 08:08 PM
Had to read it again-just as touching this time as the first.
flowerforyou

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Tue 04/15/08 07:45 PM
A lesson we all need remind of now and then..
Nice write.

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Tue 04/15/08 05:31 PM
Nice write and welcome.
flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 06:49 PM
Wow!Great write.flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 04:10 PM
to some
we are
nothing
no one
to someone
we are everything
and more..

:smile:

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Sat 04/12/08 05:21 PM
laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 04/12/08 05:16 PM
Oh how sweet! Live, love, dream and be happy together!flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Sat 04/12/08 04:54 PM
Been there, spoke and wrote the same thing, but not nearly as well as you have. flowerforyou drinker

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Fri 04/11/08 08:47 PM
So beautiful flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Fri 04/11/08 08:40 PM
sad sad
flowerforyou

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Sun 03/09/08 07:30 PM
flowerforyou

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Sun 03/09/08 07:22 PM


Lol... Good to see you again, CmeasIam...
Maybe someday I'll ask for that pic! j/k.
Thanks for responding again...
Hope to see you soon.


laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 03/09/08 07:20 PM



aww... wow... You called someone over to read this? Like, from across the room, or, on the phone?


Yup! Dragged him ALL the way down stairs just to read YOUR stuff! laugh laugh laugh